Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

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  1. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't there meant to be a post patch announcement update in a hour or so?
     
  2. marcsharp2

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    Wouldn't be surprised if DTG were deliberately holding it up so they can release it after the Roadmap and be like "Hey look, told you we'd do it, aren't we great."
     
  3. 1dart Mart

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    If it’s to do with trains there’s always a delay lol ;)
     
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  4. Mitchellman151

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    dont think the patch has gone out yet
     
  5. theorganist

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    The "or so" is a caveat, it didn't necessarily mean it would be exactly one hour! Maybe they have decided to wait till the roadmap is released for some reason.
     
  6. matt245621#2075

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    Ok
     
  7. matt245621#2075

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    Yeah lol :D
     
  8. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    They probably have waited till the road map, fingers crossed there will be a release date for the update.
     
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  9. matt245621#2075

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    It's now said on the road map the first mml update will be coming out tomorrow, But no freight services on playstation.
     
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  10. rennekton#1349

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    There was an issue with the content manager core code creating issues with the freight layer
     
  11. matt245621#2075

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    Oh ok thanks for letting me know.
     
  12. jane-skyhook

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    no the less exciting answer actually is that I was tied up in a production meeting. :)
     
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  13. antony.henley

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    Someone mention 56?

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  14. jane-skyhook

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  15. jane-skyhook

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    Hey Guys,

    As you can see from the roadmap the plan is to release the patch first thing in the morning UK time. I have sat and discussed with DTG JD for the article, which I really enjoyed - thank you JD.

    In addition to what was kindly listed on the roadmap, as mentioned we have over 180 general fixes, around 50 fixes/updates for the 158 and a whole load more. The update is just massive.

    It is only the start of our support for MML. I am so grateful to all of you here for the support and suggestions you have given. Let me follow on with a post on some new news for you all as promised :)
     
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  16. antony.henley

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    Bought her for £49 last week :) Ran it for the first time this afternoon. She runs a charm.
    I bought the Railfreight Red Stripe gray version of this over 10 years ago from Warley.

    Hentis
     
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  17. Class156

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    It looks like the first patch arrives tomorrow! Thanks so much jane-skyhook and team for all the hard work, I look forward to jumping in again!
     
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    I will be watching my PS5 intently tomorrow for the update, what you've all done is fantastic and I love the openness you've shared with the feedback and improvements. I can't wait to see what the future holds for this route.
     
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    I would have liked the Preview pics to arrive before the patch though! (Just Saying :))
     
  20. marcsharp2

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    You'll see tomorrow lol
     
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    I guess I need to purchase this DLC tomorrow
     
  22. SteveRail

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    With the sneaky inclusion of the 158 as a layer on the glossop line, combined with the coming improvements I may well look to pick this one up soon.
     
  23. jane-skyhook

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    Ok, probably not a surprise to anyone who reads my ramblings, but I can confirm we are planning a raft of additional content for MML and we will be treating the route as a base route for further content, in many areas. We hope it is the start of something very special indeed. MML is not a fire and forget route, but is the foundation on which we intend to build many things!

    We have a list of content that we would like to build, across all areas of the sim, including some ideas that have never before been featured in any route. We are super excited. I can confirm this is just the start of MML. It is official!

    Rather than list out everything on our plans, (and I will share info shortly when I can).. I wanted to put the ball in your court, to see what you all want to see first? Please share with me your wishlists for what you would like to see in order of preference? All thoughts are welcome.

    I emphasise this is not because we don't have ideas, we have lots! I just want to gauge which new content is most appealing to all of you. We will match that against what we have here to determine a running order for production. You may also come up with something we haven't thought of. So this is your chance to tell us what you would like to see next in MML.

    I cannot guarantee the production order for obvious reasons, but we want to do this in a way that is inclusive of all of you and your personal wishlists. Working with Adam Lucas (who is Mr Content) and the team we feel the MML future is incredibly exciting.

    Again, thank you for your support of MML. This is just the beginning!

    Jane
     
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    Route extension (to Sheffield? Leeds? or south towards London... eventually)
    Additional trains (Class 222) / Freight orientated services

    But this is very exciting, and I love this idea!
     
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  25. Mitchellman151

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    would love to have the class 222!
     
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  26. Cali1876

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    Class 153 or 156 would be a nice addition. Surely groundwork is there already from the 158 Sprinter model
     
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    1. I'd love to see a route extension down to Bedford first from Leicester. It's the only part of the MML that isn't in TS Classic.

    2. In second position a Class 222 DLC would be fantastic for immersion.
     
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    I take the blame for that. Totally my fault. Been swamped and further swamped. Got the pics, didnt get around to posting them. Apologies Stewart, totally on me.
     
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    love to see access to Litchurch lane opened up and the test track there.
    Would make a great start for scenarios
     
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    Couldn't agree more, that would be amazing!
     
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    Railtours, even new steam? Despite its faults the new HST was a beauty in terms of sound and driving feel, I'd love to see what you did with a steam locomotive.

    Won't lie, am excited to see this new update
     
  32. Taihennami

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    I think I'll reserve judgement on what further enhancements would make sense until I see what's already been improved, as a whole. I do agree however that the work on the 158 would be an excellent basis for other members of the Sprinter and Pacer families, to fill out the more local traffic patterns.
     
  33. Dave Mel

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    id like to see this route extended to Sheffield. Thanks to jane and skyhook team for all there hard work, im looking forwards for tmoras patch
     
  34. 1dart Mart

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    Class 222 gets my vote for sure.
     
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  35. mattchester#9176

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    Another vote for Sheffield extension for me, followed by freight activities around and to / from the power station.
     
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  36. marcsharp2

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    As it's set in 2019, the 222 and 156 for passenger stock, 56s and 47s are common on freight workings as well.
     
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    An extension would be good to get much more use out of the route but I'm looking forward to what Skyhook have planned for the route I love the 158 great train to drive
     
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  38. 1dart Mart

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    Me too. 158 is a great drive.
     
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  39. twiggy#9635

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    Hi Jane,

    Firstly I wanted to take my time to say thank you and Skyhook for your work on fixing this route as it is one of my favourite routes due to the rolling stock and it’s great to see a great route made even better.

    Secondly, I would like to let you know my thoughts on potential new content. Whilst the 222 is a obvious choice due to it being a staple of the MML, I would personally like to see either the Class 153 or Class 156 sprinters (preferably both) since they were my local rolling stock when I was younger and since you did such a good Job with the 158 (especially the sounds) I feel like your team could do a good job at bringing my childhood units to life (although they won’t be the exact same since mine were Greater Anglia)

    I very much look forward to playing the new and improved version and seeing what will be added next :)
     
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    An extension to Sheffield as well as the Class 222 being developed for this route would literally be perfect :)
     
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    Emerging from lurk mode to also add my appreciation to the list for Jane and the team. I fell in love with unelectrified UK lines and I've been keeping a close eye on this thread over the past month. I'm looking forward to initial patch feedback tomorrow and will be buying the route if I like what I see.

    For now a very well done to Jane and Skyhook for your efforts and for keeping us informed. :)
    I'm excited to see what additions are going to be made to this route in the future.

    Edit: Ah yes, a Class 222 is also high on my wishlist. One of my favourite diesels :cool:
     
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    156 and Matlock branch
    222 and Sheffield extension
    Any other UK freight loco plus freight activities
     
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    I would really would love to see St Pancras to Bedford, namely for two reasons. Firstly, you already have AI HST traffic in SEHS, and secondly (and most importantly), I want to see the route to Bedford because of the Thameslink Class 700/0 which is coming to TSW. The 700 is perhaps the most requested/anticipated loco for TSW ever, so this would be a very popular route choice!
     
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  44. SteveRail

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    Would be nice to get a service that goes end to end, not sure how many are feasible as I don’t know the area at all, but was one of the main reasons I didn’t buy the route in the first place (I really hate partial routes, unless there’s a realistic point that drivers would change).

    Exciting that finally there will be a route used as a hub though, especially given the higher attention to detail on the soon to drop patch, very intriguing.
     
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    No Worries Jane. " The best laid plans o' mice and Men gang aft agley" As Rabbie famously said
    Now As to further enhancements any additional freight workings will certainly get my vote.
    Also not sure if this is viable or not But how about era specific timetables? For Instance one based on the transition from steam to diesel period, another timetable for Br blue period and a third for modern day. Depending on what era timetable was chosen then the appropriate dress codes for passengers and Various station assets could be loaded accordingly.
     
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    Great news on the patch coming tomorrow and it is so good to see you asking for opinions and your plans to keep developing the MML route.

    Personally for me an extension to Sheffield and maybe Lincoln in the future would be great, certainly Sheffield to give us a longer run in the wonderful HST.

    DLC wise a class 222 and a 156 would be lovely.

    Further extension to Matlock and Newark Castle maybe with a class 153.

    I echo the sentiments above that it would be nice to run some full services rather than ones which always go off map.
     
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    Would love a 156, tbh.
    Much needed train with plenty of TOCs (less so now adays, certainly before) that could be using it in game.

    And, of course, it's version of the EMT livery is just *chef's kiss* perfect.
     
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    Sheffield and class 222 seem to be the early front runners. Wouldn’t need to think twice about buying that.
     
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    Lots of people saying an extension to Sheffield and I‘ll add another vote. That would add a personal connection for me and I‘d love to see it.
     
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    Derby to New Street via Tamworth
    Leicester to New Street via Nuneaton
    Both using a 170 XC
    Both have stoppers and "skippers" and would feed into a wider network
     
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