Possible Ideas For Dutch Routes

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  1. jasonjohnson#8508

    jasonjohnson#8508 New Member

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    Hello, I'm sure this has been suggested before. However I think it would be a nice addition to add a Dutch line like the intercity's between Utrecht and Eindhoven. You come by some nice landscapes, in addition to cities like 's-Hertogenbosch.

    Another addition could be perhaps the service between Amsterdam-Utrecht, or additionally something near Arnhem, considering that is the last stop in The Netherlands before you get to the first German station of Emmerich, before eventually going to Duisburg, Düsseldorf and Köln.

    Maybe the line between Maastricht-Eindhoven could be considered. I know these are alot of suggestions at once. I'm just giving some ideas of lines that could be used. While also showing some other parts of Europe.

    Below I added some pictures of some of the material being used in The Netherlands, and a map of some of the rail routes in the country. I thank you for your time in reading this.

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  2. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Really excellent idea speaking of
    That should be going Amsterdam Emmerich Oberhausen Mülheim Styrum Duisburg Hbf since Amsterdam Duisburg/Bochum Hollandstrecke it's actually the gap between the Dutch Network and HRR Bahnstrecke Witten Dortmund-Oberhausen/Duisburg. Which is why the first Dutch route should be international Duisburg/Bochum Arnhem Amsterdam Centraal. That way we get a DB Baureihe 1429 tri voltage to operate Duisburg Oberhausen Arnhem and S3 Oberhausen Essen Steele Ost. Be aware heavy iron ore train play like an American freight train due to them being 6.6k US tons 6k metric tonnes
     
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  3. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Nice suggestion and some interesting looking trains.

    I would love to see some Dutch routes in the sim. The more variety the better.
     
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  4. R3DWolf91

    R3DWolf91 Well-Known Member

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    Dutch EMUs have fascinated me since my MSTS days, I would 100% buy Dutch content
     
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  5. jasonjohnson#8508

    jasonjohnson#8508 New Member

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    The reason I suggested it the way I did was to have some ideas for some relatively shorter routes (still takes about an hour to get from Utrecht to Eindhoven but still), I would love to see the route you describe, which may be a bit biased due to my train trip to Austria last year
     
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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Not familiar enough with Utrecht-Eindhoven to rate the suggestion, but familiar enough with Amsterdam-Utrecht to say it sounds like a straight boring 4-track line much like Great Western Express.

    Personally I've put my efforts in suggesting Amsterdam/Schiphol - Amersfoort, as I think it's a line that offers quite a bit of different scenery in a relatively short time (back when I made the suggestion TSW routes were a tad shorter than the more recent releases), as well as offering different types of traffic (intercity, sprinter, international, freight and even a few yards). Link in my signature. Please support the suggetion by giving it a like if you haven't done so.
     
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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Any favourites?

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    And that's just a selection of the EMUs, not all of them. And then there's DMUs, and loco hauled passenger coaches. So much cool stuff. :)
     
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    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    I love a lot of those older ones, the fifth and sixth one down in particular.

    I can't say I like number eight, the one with the drivers cab in the roof, has an appearance only a mother could love!
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    OK then and how about Groningen Bad Nieuwschans Oldenburg Hbf 129 km set in 2008 like Bremen Oldenburg. That's the Wunderline Bremen Oldenburg Bad Nieuwschans Groningen 173 km when both are merged
     
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    VIRMs and Koplopers for sure, I also have a thing for DDZs, Sprinters, and MAT 64s
     
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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Don't know about the German part, but the Dutch part Groningen - Bad Nieuweschans is an unelectrified single-track local line that doesn't run any of the main trains, and last time I checked the only international connection was a train starting/ending at Bad Nieuweschans before crossing the German border. No clue if it sees any freight traffic.
     
  12. jasonjohnson#8508

    jasonjohnson#8508 New Member

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    I think Amsterdam/Schiphol - Amersfoort does have potential, I've travelled that line a few times myself and from having seen it up close it does sound interesting. You are right about Amsterdam-Utrecht though that it's pretty straight forward, also looking back at it Utrecht-Eindhoven would be a bit short because it only has 1 station in between at 's Hertogenbosch, maybe if from Maastricht to Eindhoven so you atleast still have stations Sittard, Roermond and Weert.
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    1 Intercity station, but plenty of local stations for sprinter services to stop at. However, I'm not familiair enough with the landscape at Utrecht-Eindhoven to judge if it'd be an interesting run.
     
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    jasonjohnson#8508 New Member

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    I honestly have not paid the greatest attention to the North, so I could honestly not form a proper opinion on that right now
     
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    from having gone down it myself a few weeks ago, it's very typical Utrecht landscape until about the point where you cross the Maas, then you have some more variety in the landscape. Which is why I think Maastricht would also be better since the station there is quite nice, and going to Eindhoven from there also shows more variety in landscape. showing more city, town, some flat land and you see some, but ofcourse not the grandest view of some of the elevation The Netherlands has to offer.
     
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    To give you an impression...

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    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Elevation isn't our strong point (perhaps the best 'elevated' view you'll get is from the Hollandsebrug looking down on the polders of Flevoland), but that isn't to say the flat landscape and open views can't be scenic. There's such views on the Amsterdam-Amersfoort line I suggested, but it's alternated with forests, lakes and (sub)urban landscape as well. I think this is one of the benefits of the more densily populated areas of the countries; whatever landscape you'll see, it won't last long, because there all small patches of different landscapes in a relatively small area. Whereas a line crossing the Veluwe will pretty much be trees all the way.
     
  18. jasonjohnson#8508

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    You get those kinds of views as well along the line near Maastricht and Eindhoven, you have some farm land, some rural housing, some forests, some hills, you pass through some smaller places too, you have some smaller bodies of water. you pass over the Maas at Roermond. it doesn't really last too long before you see something different. I am however in full agreement with you that the more densily populated areas of the country are normally better for variety in views.
     
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    The German Parts are the electrified Oldenburg Leer(Ostf) and Diesel Bad Nieuwschans Leer (Ostf). On the 425 from Bremen Oldenburg you can sign the border station Leer (Ostf) which is on the cross border Bad Nieuwschans Leer(Ostf) line. DTG should have actually carried out Bremen Oldenburg Groningen in the first place that way the 646 can run fast services to Bremen Hbf from Leer(Ostf). Slow all stations is Groningen Bad Nieuwschans Leer(Ostf)
     

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