Upcoming Release Glossop Line: Manchester – Hadfield & Glossop Coming Soon!

why the new routes get shorter i mean 13 miles ?
is there an plausible answer to this ?

 

it won't

 

They're not? Some routes are short l, like glossop/west Summerset/IoW and some are longer.
DTG trying to keep everyone as happy as they can be tbh

 

Don't misunderstand me, I wish those who buy the route get satisfaction and enjoyment from it and I will not rule out buying myself, but only in a sale (or even a last minute normal pre-order 10% discount).

However as was discussed when the route was announced, there has been little or no posts in the Suggestions forum requesting this route in this time period. Any reference to Glossop and Hadfield has been for a recreation of the Woodhead route itself, which would have been a far more worthy project.

I cannot see this as anything other than a quick and easy DLC, using recycled stock, to bring n a quick bit of cash.

 

13 miles is the complete route. It's not always about length.

 

TWSS

 

Exactly! People don't always have time to knock a 2 hour service out!

 

Worthy for you maybe, but remember, not everyone wants "the glory days".
It would be a hard pass for me.

 

You can save your game...

 

You mean, you can roll the dice on the save game function

 

Well yeah true.

 

Wdym? never had a problem with it.

 

Well this is certainly an interesting one which has split me in two minds. I think I will pick it up with the loyalty discount providing day 1 feedback is good, but there is a large part of me which just doesn't see the point of having this section of line without it being with the full Woodhead route as it was. Now that would be 30 quids worth of route and rolling stock.

 

Maybe that will come later!!!

 

It seems to me that DTG are pretty much ignoring the " Suggestions " sub- forum these days. Just going with the easy stuff, A- B, one train, recycled electric shoe boxes. Maybe that forum is superfluous now. I never bother making suggestions there because I have no confidence that anybody from DTG is reading them.

And what is the point of spending time building another major terminus without populating it realistically with trains and passengers.

Having said all that, I will take a look at the preview stream. Who knows, I might be suprised.

 

Well, they did do linke Rheinstrecke. Not especially well, but they did it.

 

the clue is in the sub forum name "suggestions" not "must make"

 

Agreed, I think people here believe that DTG will only ever provide routes that we ask for, rather than routes that they find interesting or provide unique gameplay abilities/ features.

I, for one, love the sound of the weird Y track arrangement at Dinting. It's new, it's different compared to just a straight line up and down that everyone seems to be crying out for. I'd take this over a long 60 mile, limitied stop, 125mph run down a main line anyday.

I also really liked the 323 from BCC, but struggle to commit the time to a BCC run, vs others. And also, why not reuse one of the best train models?
You have all these people screaming for the 101 and classic diesels to reappear in another 80s route, but heaven forbid they actually reuse a 'modern' train more than once?!

I feel like alot of the regulars on here feel like because they post alot, their opinions/ thoughts/ demands are worth more than they actually are

 

Perhaps if it had been a larger Greater Manchester network I could be more enthusiastic. Despite the near empty GLC, Cathcart works because you have four distinct services - Circle inner and outer rails, Newton services and Neilston services. For the sake of a few more miles, including the lines to New Mills both via Gorton and Hyde would have provided a much better experience.

I am simply being pragmatic that having driven the essence of what is on offer here already in TSC, I cannot see it being other than a quick couple of runs each way then shelved for something more interesting.

 

its another filler route while they work on a larger main release for later in the summer, which by now I would have thought we'd have heard something about...

 

I mean, we only officially got TSW3 announced on the 6 of August, so we have plenty of time before we hear about the summer release.

We wouldn't want another Dresden Flughafen branch on our hands after all!

 

Last decent BR diesel line was released in 2020. That's why people ask for another. Just the 3 years ago.

 

Indeed. We have had two steam era routes (though arguably PFR should have been early diesel) and the androgynous WCL but nothing 70’s or early 80’s. The JT route, whatever it is, looks set to be another post classic era route given it seems the new train will be a Class 142, welcome though it is - not what most of us old gits would classify as BR Blue.

 

I agree with most of what I have read in this thread. Many of the posts are all correct at the same time.

The Glossop line:

• Is a short route for those that cant play long sessions.
• Is a filler route while DTG works on the big summer release.
• Is a cheaper DLC for those that do not feel comfortable spending more in the current economic situation.
  
• Provides a reason to make the model for the Manchester Pic. Station that I hope will be used in future DLCs.
• Provides a 323 with the Northern livery as AI for those other DLCs (so we do not complain about empty stations in that future DLC).
• Is another place to use the excellent 323 for those of us that did not like Birmingham DLC.
  
• Has an interesting driving experience at the Dinting triangle that I dont think we got in any previous DLC (switching train direction, waiting for the other train to leave before you can enter, etc).
• Provides the requested "guard" scenario that is a different experience. Some will like it, some will not. I bet some people that think it will be fun will find it boring and the other way around.

All of it is true at the same time, and I find enough reasons to give this DLC a chance.

 

I agree with everything you say.

I hope Manchester Piccadilly will be used in future as there are some brilliant options.
Manchester to Sheffield via Hope Valley
Manchester to Stoke on Trent
Manchester to Liverpool
Manchester to Crewe via Airport and Stockport.

Would love to see one of those in a summer release sometime.

 

Well the Br class 101's do make for great back up passenger cars as for driving the clutch clunkers not so much.

 

I think for the price and the use of the excellent class 323 it is worth it for me. I do love self contained routes like this, I like longer non self contained routes too but routes like this and Cathcart I find the most immersive.

However I would have preferred to have paid an extra £10 and got a bit more of a network with one or two other lines and maybe one new train.

Also as much as I like the 323, I would have preferred it set in the days of the 506's and 76's as per the TSC BR blue version, or in the British Railways days, or even with the class 303's which operated it prior to the 323's.

I do think it is fair to point out that it is has been a few years now since we had a BR blue period route, I remember the anger on the forums by many (now notably silent) when TVL followed NTP and "why were we getting all these old trains"? I said at the time I expected the balance to be swung the other way and these members would go silent and lo and behold it has come to pass. Not everyone wants to drive the new trains too so maybe try and cater for as many as possible. I just like driving trains myself.

Us old codgers who like the old trains should hope therefore the JT route does well. I also don't class WCL as a proper BR period route as it seems to be based on fantasy.

The layout at Dinting is indeed interersting and changing ends to continue the service will be a novelty, although it arguably should have happened on ECW if they had built the line (along the actual coast) to Hastings.

 

I noticed that theres a timetable run for the 158&66 plus i think the ROG37/5 might have one to,just imagine what a extra good value this route would be if these already in game locos where added into this dlc.

 

I hope that sometime in the future we could see routes like.
Saltburn & Redcar Central to Manchester airport or to Manchester Piccadilly.
Seeing as Manchester Piccadilly has been used for the glossop line.

 

No chance, far to long.

 

Most of the freight I believe would be AI around Guide Bridge, There is (in real life) only one RHTT service per day from what I saw on RTT. One playable 158 service. but apparently there are AI services. So would assume these come intot he map at somepoint and go off world as well.

Hentis

 

I've no issue with the route length at the price point it's been offered at, I've no issue with the gimmicky scenarios acting like a guard or photographer. I just hope and pray these scenarios aren't mandatory in order to complete the journey. Because personally I've no interest in either of them.

 

Neither. Looks as though we shall both be exploring what is unknown to us

 

First of all the screenshots in the article are pretty good. Nice that RHTT services are included too.

 

I was calling for some kind of loyalty system before over other types. Glad to see something along those lines get taken on board (would be my luck for it to be affected by one of few routes I don’t have, all fine though and again glad to see it happen )

Looking forward to the preview stream.

 

It’s because they need a filla route for whatever big is coming in the summer.

 

Great to see DTG offer a loyalty discount for all who support the game. Thank you DTG it’s a great gesture.

As the loyalty offer lasts sometime it gives those who haven’t purchased BCC a chance to do so in the Steam summer sale.

 

Of course there is one slight flaw in DTG’s new discount marketing approach.
Nothing to stop people buying BCC, get the discount on Glossop, then refund the former.
Would be better just to keep the 10% pre order discount for everyone.
Just saying…

 

Nothing is going ever perfect and the number of people who are going to go to this length just to save what is effectively the cost of a pint of milk is going to be extremely small.

Personally I'm happy to see little things like this rewarding loyalty.

 

Oh I wouldn’t do that myself, but had the usual pre order discount been available, despite my reservations might have given this a try. As it stands can wait until going for a tenner at Xmas.

 

OV, the only problem with keeping the 10% pre order discount is that it is NOT for everyone only normally Steam users. This new way DTG have included the discount for everyone.

 

Except for those on PlayStation who own BCC but don't have PS+ like me.

Fair enough though it's not DTG, but once again Sony that have put the spanner in the works.

 

Well there have always been disparities between the different platforms. We PC/Steam users are lucky to benefit from at least half a dozen sales a year. PS is less and from what I've read XBox even worse.

 

Short route, no new trains... Gonna need more than a 10% discount to get me interested, DTG. A pass for now untill it gets discounted to about 15 EUR. Then I might be interested

 

I don’t think there has ever been an xbox sale where everything is involved. I stupidly bought the DB BR 155 and 182 in a sale only to find they only play in TSW2 and 3. So if I want to add them to the original TSW game for completing achievements and gameplay etc., I will have to pay £11.99, meaning I end up eventually paying over £18 for each locomotive. I was so excited to see both in the sale, I didn’t realise they were not backward compatible. I contacted DTG but unfortunately they are not at present making these locomotives backward compatible so I patiently wait for them in a sale which I know will never include them. Annoying as I have a full house of TSW 2 and 3 products apart from Horseshoe Curve which was recently offered to game pass users and as I only use my xbox for DTG products it wasn’t worth purchasing game pass for a month. I wait patiently.

 

I'm still not really that excited for the Glossop Line, only because of the 323 - which I've very much enjoyed on BCC and is one of TSW's best locos - is the reason why I still might get the route though.

Regarding UK content, I'm still frustrated by DTG's recent obsession to now have every UK route - big or small - feature a major station which is nearly always completely empty (and TSW 3's trend of one-loco UK routes!) Elsewhere, considering DTG now have the Northern TOC licence, why couldn't they have not used a 158 - or even a 150 - in such livery, even if just for extra AI services at Manchester Piccadilly?

To be fair, if DTG would do this that would be great for newer, busier UK routes, however, considering they've never reused the likes of Glasgow Central, Birmingham New Street, St Pancras, Paddington, Edinburgh Waverley etc, then it doesn't feel very optimistic and we just keep ending up with another empty large UK station and/or route...

While there's never any guarantee your route suggestion will ever be picked considering the amount of routes worldwide, surely your suggestion still allows DTG to gauge how popular such a route, rolling stock or TOC is among the forum community - moreover, didn't Skyhook Games even state in the MML preview stream that it was chosen due to a suggestion from the forum?

 

The suggestions forum sadly seems to be largely the preserve of 11 year olds posting semi articulate and insufficiently detailed long routes that don't stand a cat in hells chance of ever getting made. Then become outraged when you point out the fact!

 

In the article about this route it mentioned many extra services that will be layered in but it didn't list what dlc's one needed to own to get these various services to appear or if any of these extra services where limited to next gen only.

 

No discount available for me on PS5.

It’s not a loyalty discount either, as some people are calling it, as it only requires ownership of one previous route not an active longterm participation in opening of wallets. It’s a marketing discount designed to entice suckers players to buy it with a whopping £2 off. Heehee.