However, when someone says " Honey, didn't you promise to mow the lawn, fix the dishwasher and walk the dog? ", you need the save function and crossed fingers.
Here is the bit in the BML preview stream where Joe says he has left gaps in the timetable for the 700. https://www.youtube.com/live/48GCdLn2eQs?feature=share&t=4236
Thank you I was looking for that. Everyone keeps saying about this and that but I remember exactly that. It was only mentioned the reason was licensing and the 700 not available.
There is at the moment no possibility to include this train. BML is at the moment unstable for console players so DTG make the choice to cancel this
So they are coming out with a two timetables so gen 8 can handle 700. So there alternatives that can be done to bring it to BML
That's what they should do on gen 8 for the BLM where the reduced timetable only has have half the service's with out any layers and passengers reduced to 50 on gen 8 for BLM and then possibly it will run fine.
Then there will be the reduced timetable option like with the 700 on the BLM for players to choose from.
Thanks for your explanation, Matt. A quick question, going all the way back to the London Commuter preview stream, it was said that Joethefish had left space in the timetable for a 700 - thus, from a developer's perspective, is this at least more easier to have the 700 integrated into the existing timetable? While I know DTG will hopefully try their utmost for the 700 with the BML as one of the ultimate wishes for many TSW players, I'm glad to hear you are at least considering such.
This is sounding very similar to what was said about the NYT timetable. Granted in that case they admitted to have run out of time. But If you listen carefully they have said memory is the issue. But it seems that only affects gen 8 not gen 9. So why not come out with a second timetable as they are doing with SEHS to accommodate . Then they mentioned the time factor as it will take a long time. But as we have heard from the stream from London commuter gaps were left just as they were left in Boston for the Acela and 700 for SEHS and the BML.The even mentioned that using southern and gatwick trains as a sub but since is a different brand it wouldn’t look right. The mentioned of is just too many trains and not enough memory was ever mentioned . So what gives. Honestly I’m going to give my honest opinion on this. What I think is financially at the moment it probably doesn’t make sense since they have already have sale projections that won’t effect whether they added or not to the BML or not. It all comes to numbers. Their staff are probably all working other projects. But I would argue that This would be like making the Acela for only Boston. But with NYT DLC was different. They needed the Acela to sell the NYT DLC as that was one of the main selling points.With that said I do believe the 700 will make is way to London commuter at some point. I do believe the 700 will be in an AC route in the future. I understand how the business work. The fact that DTG seems to only have a German loco on the roadmap suggests something big is on the horizon. We have all seen and heard of the leaks. All I’m going to say is Math doesn’t lie. They’re are numbers that need match or beat last year’s. Those numbers were in all the bundles that were offer for TSW3.
Leaving space, more means "we didnt put placeholder services in and left it empty" meaning zero work is done towards it. That makes it *easier* to do than having to unpick it, but doesn't mean you're just filling in the gaps or anything - still a massive job to add and in the context of the other 4500 services, many of which might slightly move their timings in response to new trains filling the timetable up, the balancing act gets exponentially harder as you go. As it is, London Commuter's timetable pushes the boundaries of what we really thought was feasible by a long way - and adding Thameslink services would push that considerably further, it's not just one or two services, it's a lot of services. So long story short - you go into this expecting a mammoth task, and you're probably not going to be disappointed. Plus, it's all moot until I can get the 700/1 made anyway tbh. Matt.
I'll have to disagree on that one. 700/0's only run about 10% of Thameslink services on the BML (if that) so you wouldn't be looking at hundreds and hundreds of services to be added. Maybe around 2-3 dozen at most.
I understand some of the reasoning made but not about not having 700/1 as a reason not to put in the london commuter route.You know you have used tons of substitutes locos on other DLC ECW, London commuter, SEHS, and many of the German routes. Most were good and very didn’t. . Using the 700/0 on the london commuter would probably be the best substitute in the game.the majority of community would be behind a decision to use the 700/0 on the Brighton mainline until 700/1 available. Maybe a pool can be taken to see what the feedback would be using 700/0 on the london commuter route
Just looking at one of my old Baker Rail Atlases to confirm what I know from the game - Dartford to Rainham is a really short stretch, unless there are some scenarios that run through to Faversham. If these are largely all stations trains then we aren't even going to get much of a chance to thrash it to the max. So yes, obviously people wanted a 700 and barring anything unforseen I will probably be buying on Tuesday. However, does seem with hindsight if bringing a modern EMU into the game was so important more thought should have gone into where it could get a decent length of run and if need be even delaying until it could be accommodated on the route most of us actually want to drive it on, i.e. BML. If it's not possible to accomodate it in the main BML timetable per se, how about a few custom scenarios or a special Journey mode for BML, where the amount of traffic in the scenario can be customised? What about adding a "Railtour" layer similar to what's been done with the classic diesels and steam on other routes recently?
It's still about a 50 minute run and about 15 or so stations Vern, it's hardly "really short", and there are stretches where you'll be on full power for a while too, so I very much disagree with that sentiment. I feel certain there will be a plethora of 700 services on the Creators Club for Brighton within a very short time from launch, in fact, I'd hesitate to guess there are people waiting on the starting line wanting to be first to the post. Journey mode uses service mode, so you can't customise it without writing a whole new service mode. I get you want to drive it on BML folks, I really do, but there's not much more I can say beyond what's already been said. Matt.
Understood Matt. The 700 looks and sound great. Honestly for what we are getting for the price is a great deal……
Oh, I'll probably pop for this. My Steam wallet is kinda fat and it's only the price of a couple of macchiatos. Besides, I haven't bought anything for quite a while and, while I'm not keen on emus ( desiros or electrostars it's all the same to me ), I do like the SEHS route. And I'm sure this train will find its way on to an existing or future route soon enough.
Heard apparently an ECML south was leaked in game files, from a close friend, take it with a grain of salt though
I could take the old Ally Pally Line, the one that branched off at Finsbury Park and ran via Stroud Green to the Palace and also Edgware. Northern Heights I think it was known as.
