Tsw4 Release Date Leaked?

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  1. cloudyskies21

    cloudyskies21 Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of any new features etc, if TSW 4 came the only main thing I worry about is hoping all our existing collection of content continues to remain compatible so we can still have lots of busy routes.

    Much agreed bart2day - scenario planner has so much potential, yet it it's current iteration is very limited and often tedious.
     
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  2. Yerolo

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    :o You don't say...
     
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    [​IMG]
    Train Simulator forced paid upgrades since release: 1
    Train Sim World forced paid upgrades since release including TSW4: 3; 4 on Xbox

    Comparing Dovetail's attitude to both games, it is shocking how well they're doing with Train Simulator and how badly they are with TSW. TS has been having a major overhaul which is ongoing and generally very successful. TSW2's major overhaul broke the game entirely on console, and the community has made it abundantly clear they do not like forced paid upgrades for bug fixes. DTG can say they'll bring the bug fixes to TSW3 (and TSW2) but they never will be.

    I wish DTG had Valve's curse of not being able to count above 2. That way we would have one game that might actually work. I believe the leak because sod's law says everything that can go wrong will go wrong, and the price I would be willing to pay for TSW4 is £7.50 on sale. I paid £20 for TSW3 for some reason. I will not be making the same mistake again.
     
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  4. MAX1319

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    How about a free upgrade and 3 routes for Purchase.
     
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  5. Javelin

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    I'd be OK with that.
     
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  6. Doomotron

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    That's how it is in TS and how it should have always been in Train Sim World.
     
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  7. MAX1319

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    Isn’t that what they offer these days?I thought I saw on Xbox store BCC with a free copy of tsw3
     
  8. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    No. You buy the base game and a route. You don't get the base game for free
     
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  9. MAX1319

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    Pretty sure it says includes train sim world 3 and BCC for 35.99 and that’s is called UK starter pack IMG_0491.jpeg
     
  10. rennekton#1349

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    Saying tsw was completely broken on consoles is an exaggeration. If it was completely broken, how come players who were on console able to play tsw
     
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  11. tallboy7648

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    You are buying the base game and a route essentially
     
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  12. redrev1917

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    It is, but what the TSW2 crowd want is yearly upgrades without ever having to purchase another DLC again.

    I actually dont mind the way it was done with TSW3 and if they do the same with TSW4 I'll have no complaints even if I dont buy on day 1.
     
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  13. antwerpcentral

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    I wouldn't mind seeing TSW 4 coming out sooner than anticipated. Now that I played it on PS5 the experience has improved but on Xbox it's a totally broken game.

    But it really needs a UI overhaul and a HUD redesign. The HUD feels so ancient. Much could be improved in that department and I would pay for it.
     
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    The HUD needs to be more discreet, sizeable, transparency adjustable and moveable.
     
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    That's counting from Rail Simulator, I presume?
     
  16. antwerpcentral

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    Really more discreet. I don't understand why there needs to be a black bar on the top.

    Also they could make the signalling more intuitive. I would like to play in the unit system that is used in the routes country as everything else on screen is in that unit but it's too hard to understand the imperial system. If the signalling would scale in size relative to the distance it would be much easier to read the signalling aspect in the HUD
     
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    Unless TSW4 brings those massive fixes, all good. Most likely it will not though
     
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    I had a dream last night that DTG released a promotional image on their website, featuring a Class 325 in Royal Mail livery (not that they wore any other livery to my knowledge).

    That would point to a section of the WCML being featured, however in the dream everyone on these forums reckoned it meant the ECML was coming. Maybe the dream was in an alternate universe where mail traffic went from somewhere like Hornsey instead of Willesden.

    Nevertheless, if DTG did do the WCML the 325 would be a very interesting addition.
     
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    Setting aside the TSW4 rumor/leak for a minute, I see people mentioning the lack of roadmap activity as another possible cue. But doesn't that also suggest something along the lines of TSW 3.5/Rush Hour? A two-year cycle seems far more plausible for a game of this size and stature.
     
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    I would say if in that alternate universe the 700 ran in the WCML you would have a very high chance
     
  21. Xander1986

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    There is no reason to think thats not possible... All what you read here are expections and
    There is no reason to think thats not possible... All what you read here are expections and things they hope to see :)
     
  22. truttmann#5784

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    Bonjour j'espère que sur l'aura des trains français, des annonces en gare et si chef de gare qui donne le départ ?
     
  23. Xander1986

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    English please... It's an English spoken forum
     
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  24. CrAzZyKiLLa

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    We always end up like this around this time of year whilst work is ongoing on the usual large summer update. I will be surprised if its TSW4 after only one year, but won't put anything past DTG at this point. Let's hope they announce something soon, I forgot when it usually occurs.
     
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    French
     
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  26. Xander1986

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    désolé la langue parlée est l'anglais ici pas de France
     
  27. olly.smail

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    As long as this supposed tsw4 comes with a proper UK AC route, ideally with the 700, then i’m all for it, but that’s just my opinion.
     
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    TSW- Announced early June 2018
    TSW 2020- Announced mid July 2019
    TSW 2- Announced early June 2020
    TSW2: Rush Hour- Announced early May 2021
    TSW 3- Announced early August 2022
     
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  29. antony.henley

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    The 325 was made just for the Royal Mail so yeah its only worn that one livery.

    They are dual mode 25kv or 750 dc. And sound lovely at speed.

    Hentis
     
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    they were dual mode, not anymore
     
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    [EDIT - Jan - Insulting]
     
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  32. Javelin

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    We're not drones, your just a troll.
     
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  33. jack#9468

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    You do realise that the entire purpose of them being a *for profit* means that making money is their primary goal, right?
     
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  34. matt245621#2075

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    Mods ban this guy - nick eh 30.
     
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    They will soon enough, don't worry.
     
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    Last Time I looked Dovetail were a business. They create a product to sale to a certain aspect of people who like said product. If they don't make money from products they sale then they won't be around for long. That practice of selling stuff and making money has been going on around the world for hundreds of years. Welcome to the future.

    Wheres the rolleyes when you need them?
     
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    Was the 325 based off the 319?
     
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    319 body with a 365/465 cab i think
     
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    I was referring to the Rush Hour update for TSW2. On Xbox it required a full reinstall to get the game running. On PlayStation, players weren't so lucky. Likely because of the weird way the PlayStation Store is set up every single DLC became unusable for days (possibly weeks, it was a long time ago) and the main routes were barely playable until a patch was quickly released. For some reason I defended DTG during this period, which I wouldn't do again. DTG's way of fixing the issue was seemingly to recompile each route, and this means that every player before Rush Hour has duplicate DLCs in their library and possibly downloaded too.
    Yes. I was giving TSW a hand there, as technically RS and TS are separate games made by different developers (with both being available to purchase to this day), but in practise they are the same game.
    While the base red never changed, the Royal Mail stripes were removed later on some or all working units.
    Mechanically they were Mark 3 EMUs, being closest to the 319s but have an improved cab design based on the Networker units being built at the time. While the Networker was already the standard passenger design at the time I assume they went with the Mark 3 base design as a working dual voltage Networker hadn't been built yet, and in the end never was (365s are not dual voltage units in practise). The 325 was designed to be able to be converted to a passenger unit later on, with the doors replaced with standard passenger ones and presumably a bodyshell design that allowed windows to be cut into them like on Mark 3 coach conversions. I assume that had the 325s had this operation done to them the process would have been very similar to the Class 460 luggage coaches converted into standard passenger coaches.
     
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    didnt realise that. Cheers :P
     
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    The correct path for this one is actually waiting for the development team to release it and announce. Remember JD announced TSW 3 last year you might as well wait for him and the development team to say it officially.
    Base routes might be Germany to the Netherlands
    Hollandstrecke Duisburg/Bochum-Oberhausen Emmerich am Rhein Grenze Zevenaar Arnhem Utrecht 202 km basically an international version of Southeast high speed where you must change voltages.
    UK WCML over Shap or Northern Rail Calder Valley Line
    US LIRR Babylon and Main line reworked
    Deluxe Edition Union Workshop China Railways Hong Kong Guangzhou 142 km.
     
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    What a delightful guy you are, your mother must be so so proud.
     
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    Let us remind of the innocent days as, along with the announcement of Rush Hour, Spirit of Steam also got announced. And stupid young me actually thought, that this would mark the release of three steam routes across the three standard countries. Just like Rush Hour.

    Oh boy had I been excited about the german and amerian content that I hoped would come, once the british would have been out and cleared the way.

    And oh boy was I dissapointed when I found out.
     
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    Just saw this thread and didn't think much of it being a reality until it was pointed out that the people that leaked it are respected and why would they waste time on a niche game? And the other point is why haven't DTG denied it? When someone suggests a route or something usually DTG come in the thread and say 'We have no plans' or the like.

    So for arguments sake let's say it is true, what could it be and how does that leave the player base with their collections? I don't think it will be a UE5 release as that would mean starting again as far as routes would go and that would miff a lot of people.

    Imo it is more likely a .5 version like TSW3 was to TSW2. It will be core updates, perhaps they have fixed Rush Hour or lighting or even some routes and they will call it TSW4. DTG have a money grabbing reputation but I don't think even they would release routes now and then have a brand new game in September where everyone will have to buy new routes. My only thought really is how will it affect TSW2 owners?

    Will they be able to upgrade straight to this core updated TSW4 or will they have to buy TSW3 first? And will TSW4 be free? Again going on DTG's history I think not but assuming it is paid for what will come with it? I wonder why DTG like to do this secretive stuff? I would assume most TSW players have reached double digits in age so it would be nice for DTG to come out and discuss what they are planning to do no? Maybe hoping for too much there.
     
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    Got more news dadrail said a TSW4 is coming.
    Edit: but I don't know if he is lying.
     
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    Hmmm. How much money can be made from the same repackaged product springs to mind reading this.
     
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    proof?
     
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