Training Centre

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by matt245621#2075, Jul 21, 2023.

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  1. Yes

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  1. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    Now I'm I the only one who thinks the training centre is pointless now.
    For training modules that can be on route's and I actually don't see the point of the training centre.
    Back when TSW3 was first announced they said when new route's come out with new trains them trains will go on the training centre but the same trains are still on there and the only time we get to see new trains is in training modules.
    Edit: and they said trains what you don't own will go on there to.
     
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  2. mgbgt

    mgbgt Well-Known Member

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    It’s been scrappy since they first announced it, I mean they couldn’t even spell it bloody right! The purpose it serves to disconnect stock from all routes is all well and proper but to have something slapped together in a way they aren’t spelling things right is appalling. Imagine if they had called London Commuter London commutor. That wouldn’t make it through q and a. This is nothing against the likes of Matt and jd who I highly respect and I really enjoy their routes but the training centre is just such a frustration for me. I can’t even hide it so this still appears on my available routes and it’s not even a route.

    Anyhow now that’s out I feel much better
     
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  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    It's required to decouple loco dlcs from their home route. Tsw3 exclusive only, not tsw2
     
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  4. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't they promise us that if you don't own a loco on a route that train will still layer on the training centre.
     
  5. olly.smail

    olly.smail Well-Known Member

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    i don’t really understand what people’s issue is with the training centre being a thing. Yes the training modules may not be the best but it is quite fun to drive around as if its a test track, and like others have mentioned it means you can buy loco dlc’s without owning the corresponding route
     
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  6. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to start the argument of the wrong spelling as I have made it clear my view on that before. The training centre itself I have no problems with and generally just ignore, it doesn't fuss me really. I do however think it would be nice to have the route introduction and tutorials more tailored to the route as I think it is nice to get a feel for the route if that makes sense. Anyway apart from the speeling it doesn't bother me whether it's there or not.
     
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  7. 1dart Mart

    1dart Mart Well-Known Member

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    I see what you did there, Lol very good ! ;)
     
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  8. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    :D:D
     
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  9. LastTrainToClarksville

    LastTrainToClarksville Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's just that I recently entered my 79th year, but I find the training center useful both for learning about newly acquired routes and their engines and for refresher training on equipment I haven't operated for a while. I still miss route manuals, but even with two monitors switching back and forth between a manual and TSW itself is a rather awkward situation. I've tried making notes on paper while running a tutorial in the training center, but have not found that completely satisfactory, either.

    All in all, however, I don't see the point of this poll, since no one's forcing players to use the training center. It's one of the many resources DTG supplies and can easily be ignored by anyone who finds it superfluous.
     
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  10. NateDogg7a

    NateDogg7a Well-Known Member

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    Strictly speaking, the Training Place is not required for decoupling; this is just how DTG chose to implement decoupling. You could have had that with no Training Place at all. The implementation is questionable. For example, the RHTT training is the same as the 66. You don't get to learn how to use the water unless you own SEHS. Also, there is a 66 that comes with the Training Place anyway. So what's the point? At best I might call it unrealized potential. There was some insinuation about future uses for meeting spaces and classes and such. For me, it has limited utility. Perhaps it will have added features at some point.
     
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  11. ApollonJustice

    ApollonJustice Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the Training centre is a useless feature. It fulfills its purpose. You can do some training sessions there and in addition, there are some interesting details in it, like the interior of the main buiding. I like it, also because it is based on a real german test centre.
     
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  12. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    It's a waste of time, IMHO and I wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was quietly dropped from the next version.

    "Training" should take place on the parent route of the traction not a semi fictionalised oval of track.
     
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  13. SteveRail

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    Never used it(outwith the forced scenarios) & have no desire to tbh. Don’t have a problem with it as such but would personally prefer time and effort was spent on actual routes and locos than that.
     
  14. MaxBenchip

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    Honestly it's fun to drive around on the "test track" but other than that... And the loco trainings should be on the corresponding route instead of the training center. For me it's not bad, not good
     
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  15. 1dart Mart

    1dart Mart Well-Known Member

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    I’ve clicked “no” as I have no real feelings about it either way. Like others have said, it can be ignored without affecting the game.
    However, if it was taking up valuable memory in the game that was stopping longer routes or better ai passengers or taking space from having a multi save option, mmhh………I’d probably have voted “yes” ;)

    Hope this clarifies my position on the matter lol
     
  16. TrainGeek08

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    I feel like the Training Center (I won't start on the spelling) isn't a waste of time though it could be better in the sense that more TSW3 exclusive trains could be placed there from routes like BCC, NYT, LFR, NID etc.

    To be fair I only use the Training Center in Scenario Planner to either a) mess about with consists or b) to take screenshots for future CC livery releases but I respect that some people do like the Training Center as it is :)
     
  17. Fawx

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    You're all making it sound like hundreds of hours are spent on the Training Center every week. It fulfills it's purpose, if you don't like it, just ignore it. It's literally just sat there not doing anything, I haven't used it other than the training scenarios, that's it.
     
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  18. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t use it much but I don’t have a problem with it. It just has an eerie apocalyptic feel to it. They really need to have some guys with clipboards walking around, heck they should have an AI Matt greet you as you walk into the facility lmao
     
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  19. Gilly

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    Just a suggestion but why not just ignore it if it's that bad?
     
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  20. AtherianKing

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    Few points I’d like to make on training center

    1. Its used for decoupling locos from routes, an essential tasks that is. (Especially now it’s functioning that way, changes would be difficult)

    2. As with any other route it can only have so much stock available at any one time (hence scenario planner if you want to use something else)

    3. the tutorials need to be more in depth in general, I think to be the main problem with tutorials, rather than where they are.

    4. why get rid of something what was practically given free? Don’t like it don’t have to use it logic maybe needs to be applied. And as people who technically paid (whilst free/included in a bundle price tag) why should they have they’re content taken away cause someone else has an issue ?

    Edit: 5. There are calls they want the newer trains and not the old to use suggested/wanted above, but just as much as people may want Train “B” instead of Train “A” they’ll be those who want to use “A” and not “B” so it wouldn’t help to switch out for new. Can’t have both in that scenario due to limit so not really fair to switch or practical in anyway to continuously switch.

    Edit 2: 6. Safe to say it’s their for good as the training Center will now likely be protected by legal means, as I can’t imagine it’s allowed to take content away, if it wasn’t stated as temporary at the time of purchase and was declared by DTG as part of a purchase rather than just some feature like PIS etc. Only way would be to phase it out/not bring it along with another version of the game (like TSW4)
     
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  21. Shackamaxon

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    I like the training centre. I use it for testing the braking characteristics of locos. after purchasing New DLCs. Although, I wish there was some feature that everytime you spawn on foot, you get some random vehicles from your installed catalogue.
     
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  22. antony.henley

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    The training depot has its uses but its missing a fair bit of stuff that people could try out. Now that we have steam, perhaps a coal loading Dock and water tower area so we can practice to fill up the steam locos. Also an area for a turntable so we can get used learning that. Also when the tutorials are done let's put some effort into making the place look as though its alive. Such as people around the place locos that came with TSW 3* are available to see or say driving around the loops. Lately I feel the tutorials are just copy and paste tick boxes that have really no heart in them. The training depot should be a hive of activity not a morgue as it currently is.

    * Insert latest game title here.

    Hentis
     
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  23. OldVern

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    Also the Training Centre from what I have seen has no signalling of any description. It’s entirely one train working. DTG’s equivalent of Derail Valley (minus the derailments). I know it would be hard to set up for every type in the game which is why we come back again, to training serves more purpose on the actual route.
     
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  24. Crosstie

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    I've never been to the TC, so it's of no consequence, except to the extent that it might use resources ( memory? ) that could be employed elsewhere.

    I didn't cast a vote because I really think we are better off without polls, most of which are rather pointless.

    This OP seems to be starting one per day.
     
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  25. AtherianKing

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    it will take your own storage but won’t have much affect elsewhere, it’ll have the effect on another route to the same degree RSN affects BML or Trenton affects Tees Valley

    edit: probably even less than those affects, if size counts towards anything for one.
     
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  26. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

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    I remember when TSW3 launched, Adam from the now defunct preservation team saying the TC would be expanded and built upon over time. Nothing was added so I guess that idea was abandoned along with the preservation team
     
  27. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    The training centre is in essence the TSW version of the TSC core. It enables you to be able to buy loco DLC without having to buy the route i.e. you can buy the 700 to use on BML without having to have SEHS.
     
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  28. CrAzZyKiLLa

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    Apart from a few tutorials on loco use, I haven't used it much since launch. Could do the same thing on the map before, but I guess with the loco being separated from the route now makes that not appropriate. At this point, I couldn't care less about the updates to the training centre, unless better tutorials are made. Therefore, I voted a 'waste of time', if remove the fact its required for loco seperation.
     
  29. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    Other than tutorials the only real use for the Training Centre for us end users is for the distance driving achievements/trophies but I can't see us getting anymore of those with the Training Centre making them easy to unlock
     

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