Is There Any Alternative To The Blueprint Editor?

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  1. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately it fails to launch under Wine.
     
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    Oystein Well-Known Member

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    Convert bin files to xml with Serz.exe (drag and drop) then just edit whatever you want with a text editor such ast notepad++ etc. Drag the xml over to serz.exe again to convert it to a bin file. Not sure how the ConvertToGeo (3d model) and ConvertToTG (textures) work, it might work by just draging the igs to ConvertToGeo.

    Using this method you can work directly in the Assets folder, instead of Source folder. But instead of creating new blueprints in the editor, you need to find the type of blueprints you need within the Assets folder and copy it to your folder.
     
  3. Matthew Wilson

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    What are you trying to use the blueprint editor for? It does a fair few things, such as stock/scenery blueprints, compiling scripts, converting textures, converting shape files. In some cases there are no alternatives, in others, there are.
     
  4. eldomtom2

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    Creating a scenery item.
     
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    Matthew Wilson Well-Known Member

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    If you're creating it, as in making the shape file, textures etc then I'm afraid there is no alternative that I'm aware of.
     
  6. Creating scenery is the most easiest thing to do in TS, wait until you try adding a locomotive 'that's where the fun really begins'..

    Is there anything specific you need help with? Are you able to export your model successfully from Blender, Autodesk 3ds Max or Amabilis 3dCrafter or are you stuck setting up the scenery blueprint?
     
  7. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    I can't create a scenery item because the Blueprint Editor does not run in Wine. It's that simple.
     
  8. The only solution to solve your problem is to throw out your Linux pc and get yourself either a good gaming laptop or desktop with Windows 10 or 11 pre-installed.
     
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    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    I prefer to have control over my computer, thank you very much.
     
  10. You could optionally have a Windows gaming laptop with TS Classic installed, the blueprint editor isn't compatible with Mac or Linux clearly that's what it's telling you.

    No offence! But your claim of having control over your computer is a joke. Mac and Linux will never allow it's users to have full control over their computers, this is the same as Windows and Google alike. They all have one thing in common it's to control it's users giving us all limited administration rights and control. You figure it out!
     
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    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Your grouping of Mac and Linux indicates you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
     
  12. Mac and Linux doesn't give you full control though! As I stated before.
     
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    In what ways does Linux not "give full control"?
     
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    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    Seems you are the king then. Why not figuring out by yourself what BPE2 is doing and how you can reproduce the things with your loved Linux machine. It's possible i think. You basically need to code your own BPE for Linux. Should be easy for you i guess.
     
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  15. Alright mate, as I stated before Mac and Linux will never provide it's users full control exactly like Windows and Google. Same goes for Android, Apple, Samsung and many, many more.

    Fair enough! You can jail break your devices and some of it's files, but it doesn't mean that you have full control. You will still receive updates and software modifications during these updates from Windows, Google, Mac, Linux and many other platforms. Same goes for a mobile device when you can enable it's 'Developer Console' it doesn't mean that Android will give you complete control over your device.

    Just pointing out those facts.
    All I can state is get yourself a Windows gaming laptop to allow you to use the Blueprint editor. Yes, you can still keep your Linux computer but don't expect everything to be compatible regardless of what's stated by the software developer.
     
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    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    This is ridiculous. Apparently knowing basic things about operating systems is impossible unless you're a programmer capable of reverse engineering.
    You don't need to jailbreak Linux. That's the entire point.
     
  17. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    You are denying to use the appropriate software basis for the BPE2. What do you expect people would suggest you to do? TSC and its tools is mad for Windows and nothing else. If you want to participate, you need to use Windows for it OR expect not working things without any solution.

    To be more precise what i meant with figuring out how it works. BPE is just a wrapper tool UI. It incoperates a scheme based XML editor and calls external tools with its export functionality. These extra tools are also sitting in the same folder as BPE itself. Like the converttogeo.exe or converttotg.exe etc. pp. These files can be called from the console level too, like usual hardcore Linux users should wenn know how to do. What you need is a own wrapper tool or you have to do the steps manually with each tool (expects the tools also running under wine what i do not expect). If the tools not running without Windows, you have to get the idea what they do and reproduce it with your own set of tools. The tools do nothing fancy. These are mainly all serialisers that produce a xml based file with blob data in it as payload. RW Tools shows this perfectly.
     
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  18. Oystein

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    Code:
    [6] ConvertToTg.exe -i "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Source\Developer\Addon\Particles\ExampleSmoke.ace" -o "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\ExampleSmoke.TgPcDx" -target pc -nowindow -costXML "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\ExampleSmoke.TgPcDx.cost" -r "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Source" -interpalpha -forcecompress
    
    [9] ConvertToTg.exe -i "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Source\Developer\Addon\Particles\Textures\Gizmo_noaplha.ace" -o "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\Textures\Gizmo_noaplha.TgPcDx" -target pc -nowindow -costXML "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\Textures\Gizmo_noaplha.TgPcDx.cost" -r "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Source" -interpalpha -forcecompress
    
    [9] ConvertToGeo.exe "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Source\Developer\Addon\Particles\ParticleGizmo.igs" "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\ParticleGizmo.GeoPcDx" -pc -lf -nowindow -shaderpath "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Dev\Shaders" -costXML "G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\RailWorks\Assets\Developer\Addon\Particles\ParticleGizmo.GeoPcDx.cost"
    
    Did run a quick export of a sample file. This should give you an idea on how to do it without blueprint editor.
    There are more options for the textures (TG)
     
  19. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, why are you acting like I'm demanding for DTG to make the Blueprint Editor work on Linux?
     
  20. Maik Goltz

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    Sounded like it to me, somehow. At least you have to use what you can have and that is the BPE on Windows only.
     
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    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Because I dared to ask if there was an alternative?
     
  22. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    More your reaction about Windows vs. Linux. But anyways. There is no way around Windows if you want to participate with your own content.
     
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    Reef Well-Known Member

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    This is basically a private conversation between two people at this point.

    Maybe you'd both be better taking it to DM's as I don't know about anyone else but I'm sick to death of all these back and fore posts plaguing this forum recently.
     
  24. NEC Railfan

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    What about a virtual machine for TS? TS runs in its best state on Windows, especially systems like 7 and 10 (rsbintool doesn't work on 11 due to its age). I've seen people use Linux for everyday stuff and use a VM for situations that won't work with Linux.

    I don't know if it would be strong enough for playing TS, but definitely for using BPE2.
     
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  25. Oystein

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    I use RSBinTool with win 11.
     
  26. Reef

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    Yep, me too.
     
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    Interesting, ever since I started working on 11 it didn't open anymore, might just be my system.
     

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