What Is Your Least Favourite Train To Drive?

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  1. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    They're generally disliked, and rightfully so.
     
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  2. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    You're doing something wrong if you use max brakes, especially during snowy conditions.
     
  3. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    My least favourite trains in tsw are the ones which are not modeled well or didnt get much love in creation.

    For a long time it was clearly the 1938 tubestock. Before the update it had poor to non existent sounds and buggy panels.
    Now its like day and night.

    As much i like rivets 385, no flange sounds lets me just think "there is something missing" all the time.

    The br diesels are modeled really well, so they are actually my favourites to drive.

    ■■Br187 just with the soundmod, solid example why sounds make the major difference between immersion and screw up.
     
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  4. lcyrrjp

    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    It’s interesting because, on the rare occasions I play Train Simulator, I often choose to take a Mark 3 set over Shap, driving from the Armstrong Powerhouse DVT (with a 90 at the rear). I’m not sure exactly why I like it. Possibly it’s to do with being able to hear every creak, every rattle, the flange squeal and the hunting bogies, which to me are so reminiscent of travelling the route in the 1990s. It might also be that the difficulties of controlling a long train with all the power at the rear are so well re-created. The way in which, from a standing start, you take a bit of power, wait an interminably long time while nothing happens, then suddenly get a great whack from behind as the last of the couplings finally closes up and your DVT accelerates from zero to the speed which the loco has gradually accelerated to, in one great lurch. Then, of course, the couplings stretched by this sudden forward movement, all momentum is momentarily lost and you get a back-and-forth movement for the first few seconds while the loco ‘collects’ the train.

    Maybe it’s better described by Stephen Fry in his autobiography:

    “After one of those squealing, juddering, stomach-dropping false starts with which trains so tactlessly articulate human emotion, we pulled ourselves out of the great shed of Paddington and steamed west.”

    I have a feeling that may not have been with a Castle on the back and a DVT on the front, so the physics is rather different, but the effect is not dis-similar. Maybe a younger generation, brought up on a strict diet of the afore-mentioned modern EMUs, do not realise what an untidy process leaving a station could be. It’s much better for passengers now, of course - but perhaps has lost a little of its charm.
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Many of us are here because we like noisy and to some extent smelly trains, as we British call it a bit of "thrash" whether diesel or electric. You don't get that in a driving trailer/cab car.
     
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  6. Quentin

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    I stick a 3 cam on the front of the loco. Unlike MSTS this gives you external sounds, which may not be what you want.
     
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    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    I have trouble with the little German shunters; I think because there is so much set-up to do in them.
     
  8. bartolomaeusz

    bartolomaeusz Well-Known Member

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    This is a great view for scenery and driver's perspective. I switch between this and camera 2 to see the loco itself.
     
  9. barryr21

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    Ditto

    Horrid things
     
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  10. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    What would be the correct procedure for that situation? Remember the line speed is 160 kmh on the Regional IC line 425 Essen Hbf Bochum Langendreer and S-Bahn Wattenscheid Essen Steele Ost 140 kmh.
     
  11. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    Slowing down with care and comfort in mind would be the correct procedure here, it's a regional line after all. Also, the Br425 is limited to 140kmh on that line, and the timetable respects that, surely you would have to be more than 5 minutes early running 160kmh and using full brakes to stop?

    Now, the brakes on the 422 are ridiculously overpowered, rarely do I use more than 50% brakes on both.
    I do however use full brakes with the 423, when it is appropriate.
     
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  12. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    If only loud trains could be loud in the game.
    "Raise your game volume then" ...and get your eardrums blown out the next time AWS goes off.

    Anyway, passing freight trains with the Dosto is almost comical, as both are dead silent. I'm glad the Baureihe101 DLC didn't include a cabcar
     
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  13. solicitr

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    :o:o:o:o!!!!

    Your passengers must spend a fortune at the dry cleaners, getting the coffee stains out of their clothes.
     
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  14. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for telling me about that but on HRR going over 140 kmh on 425 HRR version doesn't result in overspeeding. Only the newer version from Wunderline Bremen Oldenburg Groningen results in overspending by going over 140 kmh.
     
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    Doesn’t change the fact that it is speeding. 140 is Vmax unless under LZB supervision. The 425s are infamous for their lacklustre brakes.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    That's because older routes like HRR only reflected the max line limit, not the train's Vmax. You can run GWML in a Class 66 at 125 (presumably with a rocket engine in the back) and not be "speeding"
     
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  17. FredElliott

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    That's not coffee
     
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  18. mgbgt

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    I cannot stand the electrostars! They are awful things!!!
    I also just can get on with the German and American trains every time I try to widen my horizons and have just decided to stick to the British stuff from now on!!!
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Find that Helpful and on GWML The Class 66 from RHTT SEHS with the working panel seems to reflect the Train speed for freight. Back to the topic of HRR 425 does the Timetable reflect Vmax or Line Speed if Line Speed run to 160 kmh 100 mph at all times and then drop to Vmax on selected parts.
     
  20. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    Vmax, in this case 140kmh.
    Same applies for freight, the game will still tell you that you are "driving under the speed limit", while pulling coal trains at 160kmh.
     
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  21. GA Railfan17

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    Probably the Electrostars they are terribly boring and uninteresting.
     
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  22. west coastway trains

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    Personally I love electrostars
     
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  23. T.83

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    If in Germany, turn on PZB M or Ü, it restricts the freight train to 125/105kmh
     
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    Passenger POV when entering station:

    Edit: Timestamp 26:20
     
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    385. Bad view.
     
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    Definitely wasn’t my experience, what’s the problem with the cab insulation? I can hear the motors and track sound fine. Also are you aware that the performance on the train differs whether you’re on AC & DC? The train will be more more sluggish which is common with every duel voltage trains and DC trains in general, have you driven it on AC to see the difference?
     
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  27. colinL

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    I honestly think the 182 would've deserved better too. Its not as bad as the TRAXX ingame but I think its also represented rather lackluster and boring...
    But when I drive freight I definitely use it over the 185.
    My favourite loco is the 101, closely followed by the 103 and 110. I think those are very nicely represented ingame and are actually fun to drive. Especially the 101 feels super good for a "modern" loco. Wish the TRAXX would feel the same as the 101.
     
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  28. Lightspeed

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    Electro stars and PEPs like BR class 314 and 313. Those units take ages to get up to line speed. All other trains are good, especially the DB BR 628!
     

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