Train Sim World 3 Class 377/6 And 377/7 Loco Dlc Bundle

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  1. fabdiva

    fabdiva Well-Known Member

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    I more meant the electrical gubbins, for example the 387s have HD bodyside cameras, different software etc - 377 compatability wasn't in the spec as originally they were only meant to be with Southern briefly as the order was on behalf of the DfT to initially replace the remaining long distance 319s on Thameslink and allow more 377 services to be 12 car - Long term they were planned for GWR, but for various reasons GWR ended up taking new build 387s with the rest of the fleet ending up on Great Northern.

    Separately the need to urgently replace 442s on GatEx because of poor reliability meant it was easier to take some units from the GWR production line as they could be delivered quicker - these were the 387/2s.

    As far as I know there isn't a 1hr limit for non-toilet stock, it's generally avoided but SWR 455s do some 90 min runs out to Guildford and Reading. UK Gov have stated they want everything ordered new to be fitted with a toilet so in time it won't be an issue.
     
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  2. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I've read that it was 58 minutes, though whether that is still in effect or it was true even when I read it is another matter, but it's definitely true that only trains with toilets run in service past Gravesend on the North Kent Lines, which discludes all the 376s
     
  3. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there's a limit as Abbey Wood to Reading on a Class 345 can take 1h 25m at certain times of the day.
     
  4. darkwarrior#2896

    darkwarrior#2896 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's true wouldn't it take a long time to make another London to Brighton route? It would just be easier because they already have the route. All they will need to do is improve it with memory issue fixes and TSW3 improvements
     
  5. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    It's not a greatly desired prospect - remaking routes just to fit other trains in.

    It only happened for IOW but that was minimal changes for what was basically a loco DLC.

    BML is a fabulous route as it is, and it doesn't need anything else. Throw a 455/456 in with a TS South London Network style route and that'll do nicely for most people. The 171 could go with Eastbourne or Hastings -Ashford
     
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  6. darkwarrior#2896

    darkwarrior#2896 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see South London Network style route before DTG decides to give London commuter the same treatment similar to Southeastern high-speed extended
     
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  7. darkwarrior#2896

    darkwarrior#2896 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah true. A London commuter remake would be for Gen 9 Console only. London commuter came out in TSW2 and DTG are bound to do a remake!...
     
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  8. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    They aren't, at all.
     
  9. airbusfan1330

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    Ahem PC exists too
     
  10. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    What gives you that impression?
     
  11. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    Why does it needs to be free? Interior will need to be remodelled, its not just copy c copy v a coach somewhere between the 4-car one
     
  12. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you know? If someone wants something then it's a scam if they need to buy it :D
     
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  13. tibomatthijs

    tibomatthijs Well-Known Member

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    All DLC's are scam right, all a big scam!
     
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  14. darkwarrior#2896

    darkwarrior#2896 Well-Known Member

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    Fan's really want the class 700 0/1 for London commuter as much as I love the idea I think a remake makes sense before that happened which will happen in TSW 3/4 It's just a matter of when!!!
     
  15. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Evidence that it's "just a matter of when", please.
    "People want it" means nothing. People want literally everything, doesn't mean they're all coming.
     
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  16. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Top One 377/7 should be for a WCML South London to Birmingham for Willesden Jct to Milton Keynes via Watford Junction with 377/5 377/2 just like TSC did. fair game 377/6 BML ECW
     
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  17. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    why should it cost more if you already own BML I think it should be the other way round really
     
  18. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    I know the 378 is called a capitalstar but really its no different from an electrostar so I don't know if you'd class that as one too
     
  19. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    No. Some would call it semantics but they are different in name, so it's good enough to seperate, imo.
     
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  20. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    So if you do more work on something, no matter how similar, you don't expect to be compensated for it?
    Given there are differences in all of these assets there would be work, and that work should be paid for
     
  21. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    well if you already own the 377 why should you pay more for a variant of it with very limited differences than someone who doesn't own a 377 it doesn't make sense so it should either be the same price for all or a discounted price if you own BML
     
  22. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Any difference requires work. It's up to you whether you buy it and find value from it
     
  23. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    all I was saying was the pricing suggested wouldn't make sense not that you shouldn't pay I'm not quite sure you understand what I'm saying
     
  24. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm very much understanding
    You're saying that because they're similar if you own one unit you should get a discount on any other unit that is similar, so in your view takes less work to implement

    I am disagreeing
    No matter what the differences in the unit itself it has to have physics and sound updates, interior layout differences, external differences, timetable application and so on, all of which needs to be tested to ensure it doesn't clash with anything existing
    so to my mind there's definitely work there, which needs to be paid for
     
  25. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say that though there is more to my comment than that, I said that you shouldn't have to pay more than someone who owns no variant of the 377 if you already own one and that it should either cost the same or a bit extra for someone who owns no form of the 377 because its essentially an entirely new train
     
  26. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    And I'm disagreeing because IN GAME they're different assets
    And I'm disagreeing because in many ways it is a new train, with different testing, timetable, possibly physics and sounds...
    the only thing which may be the same is the body shell in general outline, and that's the easiest part to do
     
  27. west coastway trains

    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    That user speaks to forum users lien that all the time
     
  28. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    and cowboywolf is right
     

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