PlayStation Should I Wait? Buy?

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  1. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Yes - I know. Me? The person who constantly talks about PC and TSW? With a PlayStation tag?

    Might sound ludicrous but I really can't keep playing TSW on my pc - it just takes up way to much space which I'm starting to need for my personal life so I had to make a choice. Keep playing TSW on pc and risk something really bad in the future or move to Console. After careful thinking I decided that I think i would like to move to PlayStation (I own a PS5). So that begs the question... where do I start? This is a complete blank slate so then what do I do? Do I buy one of the UK starter bundles? (I don't care atall for non UK routes - just personal preference). Do I wait until we hear news on weather TSW3 will get a summer drop or if TSW4 will release? And this is what I need your guys help on - would you guys recommend making the switch now or just waiting untill DTG update us on what's going on with TSW3SUMMER/TSW4?
     
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    At this point I would wait and see what is really coming. If it really is TSW4 with a “pay again” release, not really much point buying TSW3.
     
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    Personally I would wait and see whether TSW 4 gets announced. I’d be annoyed if I bought TSW3 only to have to buy TSW4 in 2 or 3 months time.

    That does assume there will be a TSW4. But it does seem quite likely.
     
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    If you already own a PS5 I’d wait for the next announcement, it can’t be far off now!
    Lots of good uk routes to get but I’d hold fire on MML (which is great on PC) as the PS5 does not like it at all at the moment :(
     
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  5. Speedster

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    If space is your only issue a second SSD for your PC will be cheaper than rebuying TSW for console.
     
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    I would also go for increased PC storage over rebuying everything for PS5.
    An extra 500GB HDD or SSD for the PC really isn't that much these days, definitely cheaper that even TSW3 base edition.
     
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  7. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    To be honest I'd barely rebuy anything - the majority of the dlcs I have are ones I've never played that just came with base game TSW2 and 3. Out of all the dlcs I own I play maybe 4 routes. 2 of which I'd get already (unless TSW4 comes out) and I'm fine with leaving steam out for a bit and I'm happy to rebuy LBN whenever it goes on sale. (I also had TSW2 on PS4 so yeah I'd get BKL which I enjoy a lot weirdly enough unless PlayStation doesn't do multiple games).
     
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    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going just to add this as a reply to the majority of those above rather then replying to all of them separately with more or less the same message.

    That was my personal thought process but I just wanted some opinions on the matter- thanks for awnsering and taking time to awnser and help me out- cheers
     
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    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    That's a shame - MML looked so good but oh well - I'm sure skyhook will fix it on PS at some point (skyhook seems rather good at this stuff)
     
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    As others suggested, if disk space is the issue, I would recommend upgrading with another SSD/HDD as it's cheaper than a console plus buying your TSW collection again on another platform.

    If physical space is an issue and you want to buy a console as it is smaller, then wait for what gets announced this summer. It's possible we're getting TSW4 in a few months (end of September) which is most likely going to be a stand-alone purchase.

    Keep in mind that if you want to ever mod your game, you can only do that on PC and not on consoles.

    EDIT: I completely blanked the fact you own a PS5. In that case, I would wait a couple of weeks to see what gets announced and make the switch based on that.
     
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  11. lucasfor49

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    Ehh I've never been in the modding scene when it comes to TSW3 - while it seems good I just don't really want to get in the headspace of requiring mods for everything.

    As for the SSD I do already have a few with minimal left space that I mostly use for steam games.

    As for the collection as I stated I actually own very few dlcs that I actually care about 2 of which (presuming there is no TSW4 for a second) I would/already do own on PS4 (and ergo 5) from TSW2 which I enjoyed greatly on console back in the day. And as I said I'm happy to rebuy LBN and I can hold off on SOS for the moment.
     
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    Why limit yourself? This game is borderline unplayable at times without mods.
     
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    Is it... really? Talking TSW3 I've enjoyed my modless runs - it's still fun and many of the best and most well known people in these forums and CC have loads of fun and only use console and or modless. I'd argue it doesn't particularly mind going without.
     
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    Do you buy the console for TSW only? If not which probably will be the case once you have a PS5 you will also need to upgrade the PS5 with an SSD as TSW takes a lot of your disk space.

    Wait for sales to buy the routes you already have. At the moment there is a summer sale for TSW. There are frequently routes for sale on PS5.

    What I would suggest is look for a PS5 with a discount as discounts are being given on PS5's at the moment in the EU
     
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    Well if you don't know any bettet, you probably do. A vast majority of people on earth enjoy their life without playing games at all, not knowing what they're missing out.

    Anyway, I wouldn't touch steam at all if it wasn't for the mods, I don't enjoy getting my ears blown out by the safety valve every 30 seconds
     
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    Tbh my PS5 has... let's just say a LOT of space. It has very minimal games so space shouldn't be the biggest problem atleast for now. Enfact I think it has an SSD (I say think because I haven't touched it in a week or so because I had to pack it up to move) but yeah that's also the other thing - there's a summer sale and missing that would be really annoying especially is TSW4 isn't announced and its just rush hour 2.0.
     
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    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    That's makes sense I guess but I guess as you say - aslong as you don't get dependant your fine without. Or Atleast I think that's what you meant.
     
  18. Cael

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    I wouldn't say it's unplayable without mods (except the Caltrain MP36 mod that fixes the bug where you cannot select it in the menu), but it adds a lot. I use modified engine.ini and a lot of sound mods and it's a night and day difference.
     
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    I do have several mods and in many cases they do enhance the experience. However without them the game is hardly borderline unplayable.

    I keep getting close to filling my 500gb SSD drive up and will get a second one at some point. Seems a better option to me rather than purchasing the game again for console.
     
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    If you need mods to play this game I suggest you buy a Playstation. Never tried it on PC but I believe you when you say it is unplayable. I also found this game to be unplayable on Xbox. Best experience seems to be PS5 :cool:
     
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    I’d wait for now until we see what’s coming out soon to decide what package to start with. Don’t listen to those saying not to move to PS5 to play TSW if you have already decided it isn’t practical to keep using your PC. TSW is great on PS5. Whether or not you need an expansion drive (I did) will depend on how many games you have on the PS5 and with TSW, how much DLC you get afterwards.
     
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    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    That's interesting if PS5 is the best experience. Especially given that is what I own. I will see.
     
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    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your input

    I'm sure they had good intentions but yeah for me personally it's just getting impractical and I'm (currently) not one of those hobbiests with every dlc so moving won't hurt my wallet too much. Thanks.

    And as for the drive I guess I'll just see as it goes.
     
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    TSW on PS5 is really a good version and has keyboard support, but no mouse control (yet?) I think you missed the sale of a bundle, started for about 15,- the past week. Or buy it on disc with a discount if you can.
     
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    On the topic of discounts - does PS PLUS do anything for TSW?
     
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    It is 100% not best on the PS5 lol.
    We have mods that improve the base game, we have ini settings we can tweak.
    The best performance, and the best graphics can be found on PC. It's not even close.
    Midland Mainline with the new Enhancement pack is massively better than the route is on PS5.

    You can enjoy playing it on PS5, and lots of people do, but calling it the best experience is just factually incorrect.
     
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    Well, playing it on PS5 completely eliminates any dealings with Windows or Microsoft and all other PC woes so it’s already the best experience hands down because of that one fact. PS5 master race - while you’re still tinkering, we’re already playing.
     
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    I based that conclusion on what a PC user had to say about the PC version. Like I said I have not tried the PC version but If you say it's the best version I will believe you instead of the other PC user. So the PC version is the best version if you tweak it but otherwise it's unplayable and you should get the PS5 version.

    Now it's correct? ;)
     
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    It's completely playable without tweaking, and would still be the best version if you had a good PC. Tweaking just enables you to make it even better. PS5 is great if you want to sit on a couch and play.
    PC is the overall best, because that's just the nature of it. PC can have MUCH more powerful hardware than a console, and you have the ability to mod/improve the base game.

    To put it in perspective. The PS5 has 16GB of memory shared between the system, and the Graphics card.
    Most gaming PC's have at least 8GB of dedicated Graphic memory, and 32GB of system memory.
    My System has 12GB of Dedicated Graphic Memory, and 64GB of System Memory.
    You can get Graphics cards with up to 20GB+ of Graphic memory for PC.

    Well considering my load times are faster than what the PS5 does, you're certainly not playing before me lol.
    There are zero PC woes, I've had no issues.
     
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    I'm never impressed by specs. Specs never tell the true performance of a device. Best example is iPhones vs Android phones where iPhones beat Android phones with way much higher specs. That's because Android is developed for multiple devices from multiple manufacturers. PC's are like Android, the OS is made for multiple configurations by multiple manufacturers and even made for multiple purposes. I'll stick for gaming with the device that was made with the sole purpose of playing games.:cool:
     
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    I'm not going to lie quiet a few times I've encountered a few issues on PC - a lot of crashes and more stutters then om TSW2 and my PC is really good - similar specs to yours.
     
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    I haven't had any crashes on my end. But even the PS5 is crashing at the moment with Midland Mainline.
    Stutters can normally be sorted with ini tweaking, should look at some of the threads on it.
    I still think your best bet is just buying some new storage for your system. Is there a reason you are against that?
     
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    This is a good shout.

    Also something I'd like to add about PS4 and PS5 is that there a lot more safe. On the PC your always in danger of malware, spyware and trojans even from trusted sources (I mean the MC mod community had the massive incident the other day). And replacing it is a LOT MORE expensive. And with PS you will basically never get malware on it unless your a literal idiot. So yeah that's something to note aswell.
     
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    I already have extra storage - I'm running out of both space inside my tower and externally - I only have one socket left and I need that for external school work so I litterally can't. And honestly I'm not opposed to I'm sure there's a way but I just REALLY don't want to fiddle around with my PC and risk destroying the entire thing.

    And as for the MML issue it's just one singular route at the end of the day. And knowing skyhook there making a fix for it unless om missing something.
     
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    That's entirely true on PC as well though.
    I haven't had a single virus/malware on my system in well over a decade. Just follow basic file safety and you're fine. I run an adblocker, and virus scan everything I download before opening it.

    It's been crashing on PS5 since April, so they're taking their time if that's the case.
     
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    Alright going to make a couple of points here

    1. Neither have I- I was just putting it out here because recently - especially on the modding scene - a LOT of mods have gotten compromised from malicious code cresting viruses that can go undercover until its way to late, even if it isn't TSW it always could be and hackers are always finding new and extremely intelligent ideas to bypass these things so it's not impossible...

    2. I'm not really sure on the skyhook thing- best to just let nature take it course on that one. Neither of us are in skyhook or dtg so might aswell wait on that one for further news.
     
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    So it's not only tweaking you have to do? You also have to take measures for security and even use your brain whilst using it?

    Not sure anymore if PC can be considered the best version. All I had to do was plug the Playstation in to my TV after that I was done using my brain so the party could start. What other drawbacks are you hiding about that so called better version of you? >sarcasm<
     
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    It's not impossible on PS5 either.

    I've been modding games for over 20 years. Do you know how many times I've got a virus/malware from one? Zero. Zero dodgy or corrupted files in 20 years. I scan every file before opening, the vast majority of modding websites scan the files themselves before they allow them to be downloaded.
    The only time I've ever gotten malware/virus have been from popups/ads on web pages. Which was before adblockers were a thing.
    I work in a field requiring to constantly be aware of File Security, and avoiding PC's being compromised. It's really not even close to being as prevalent/scary as you are making it out to be. Basic online awareness and protection, and being aware of what you are downloading will keep you safe 99% of the time.

    To roll back to the original question, since you seem pretty set on buying it on PS5.
    I would wait till September, to find out what DTG are planning with the possibility of TSW4.
     
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    DTG really needs to support adaptive triggers so we can end the PC vs Console debates once for all and declare PS5 the winner :cool:
     
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    Sadly not, because you can use them on PC as well. I use a PS5 Controller on a few games, and that feature works on PC as well lol.
     
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    Now that the Add-on's Manager is here the biggest issue on the PS5 is rhe ridiculously long load time for tje games itself. I don't know ow why it takes so long given other platforms are unaffected.

    I've head that framerates are worse that the Series X but for the most part I'm happy with ingame performance.
     
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    Actually that brings me to my next question- what uhh... is the addon manager exactly?

    Anyway load times aren't always the biggest problem, I can always grab a quick drink while waiting or look at the Screenshot winners to see how they do to try and improve - also can you do you know screenshot on PS or is that PC exclusive uploading them? Stupid question but I don't really know.

    Honestly went off topic from what I'm replying to so if you (As in who I'm replying too) can't reply if anyone else can that'd be appreciated

    Thanks!
     
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    The addon manager lets you pick which of the DLC content is loaded in. So you can disable the routes you're not using. This is due to the PS5's 64GB DLC limit I believe.
     
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    Oh alright...

    Makes you wonder if the DLC onslaught might cause DTG to make world PC only... what a nightmare world that'd be.

    Jokes aside alright- thank you for that.
     
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    It's difficult to filter out all the tosh being posted here.

    All I will say is that I've been playing TSW ( and before that TSC and MSTS) on PC ever since it launched and I've yet to experience any problems. I have no mods and don't need them.
     
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    That's why they made the Addon manager I guess. Realistically you're probably not going to use more than 2-3 routes at a time and some trains. But if you change your mind you'll have to reload the game. Not a massive headache, but certainly something that would annoy me.

    You said you don't play many routes though, so it probably won't be an issue for you.
     
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    Tbf the 30-90 second task of reloading a game isn't that bad and you can easily have say a few routes and all the AI enchantment and have a blast and switch when you want to. Actually really good and would be nice for PC albeit not really possible.
     
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    Yes you get PS Plus discounts for TSW but I must warn you that PS+ is a gateway to a bigger SSD :D
     
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    Weirdly enough I use both PS5 and PS4... let me explain.

    I use PS4 for the majority of my games: FFXV, souldbourne games, Tales of games, other random assortments of games.

    I only use my PS5 for a couple of games: Elden ring, FFXVI and Diablo 4 which are both disc so don't take LOADS of space up.

    So a lot of my PS+ games I want to play go on my PS4 (with ssds) already unless there PS5 exclusive.
     
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    You've misunderstood what this and how it functions. It all happens in the background so you don't actually "choose" anything. Just going to the Main Menu and changeling you route is enough to change what's loaded (exactly the same as any platform).

    It's simply a different way of engineering the game that gets round Sony's DLC and gives small memory improvements.

    Actually chosing DLC / layers to deactivate is not something it does (although something this would be useful!)
     
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