TSW4 is right around the corner, and with it will be a lot of UK routes. I won’t list pros or cons of the route or scenarios, but here are 5 possible and highly requested UK routes that could come to TSW4. 1. ECML South: Blackfriars-Peterborough The ECML is highly requested, and it’s easy to see why. We already have the GTR license, and LNER is owned by the DFT. It won’t be that big of a problem to leave out Hull Trains, Lumo and Grand Central. The route is about an hour long, which is an average duration for TSW routes. We already have the Class 700 (Thameslink) and 387 (Great Northern) but we will have to make a new variant of the 387 and a new livery. The 717 (Great Northern) will be one of two new trains, with the 800 or 801 Azuma fleet for LNER being the new addition. The route is run on OHLE. 2. SWML Waterloo-Southampton This route is one I really want, and one that has been requested by others. This will be set in 2017 so we can allow SWT to be run on it, and we will see some new trains being added to it, such as the 444s, 450s, 455s and since this is set in 2017, a possible addition of the 456s. The route is about an hour long and I think it’s around 80 miles, which would be close to the longest route in the game, SEHS, which is 89 miles. The 377s and 387s would be layered in from BML, the 375s and 465s from SEHS, and the 700s also from SEHS. Also, the 377s will be making a lot of appearances in this route, such as at Clapham Junction, Eastleigh-Southampton and possibly even at Wimbledon. The 158s may also be an additional DLC, but we kind of need to rework those. This is a 750 volt third rail route. 3. Windsor and Hounslow Lines Yes, another SWT route. This one would have a different selection, with the Class 450s, 455s and 458s. No 707s as they were introduced two days before SWT stopped operating, and only two units were in service. Once again, the route is an hour long from London to Windsor, same layers as last time except for the 700s, and we already did a loop line so this isn’t new. I’m looking at Cathcart Circle Line. This is a 750 volt third rail route. 4. The Wherry Lines Keep almost all the services on this, and let’s set it sometime in 2019. The route is a perfect one, and it’s about half an hour to an hour long. I think. This route goes from Norwich to Great Yarmouth and Lowesoft, with a Norwich-Great Yarmouth via Berney Arms route too. 1tph runs to Great Yarmouth, 1tph to Lowesoft, 2tpd to Great Yarmouth via Berney Arms, and about 6tpd at Norwich running the layered in 158s from EMT. And if we end up adding ECML, this route can layer in at Peterborough. The rolling stock this route will get is the 153s, 156s, and 170s, with a possible Class 755 as a DLC. This route is a diesel one. I think. 5. LU Metropolitan Line We could do all of it, but we need to think about how many branches it has, and ATO. We don’t exactly have to have ATO on, but it’s an idea. If we were going to do the more likely option and only add the main section, we would do Amersham-Aldgate with the addition of semi fast and fast services. We could include Chesham and Watford, and if we were to do all of it, Uxbridge too. I don’t know what to do about the north curve, but I guess we can add the rare service. Also for the rare service, we don’t have to add all, just at least one. This is a present day route, and we could have the S7 and S8 stock run on it. The S8 is used on the met, and the S7 on the District, Circle and H&C. This is a third rail route. Also north curve services: 0516 Chesham to Watford 0544 Watford to Rickmansworth (ECS) 0608 Rickmansworth to Watford 2013 Amersham to Watford (ECS) 2021 Watford to Amersham (ECS) 2044 Watford Siding to Rickmansworth (ECS) 2051 Amersham to Watford (ECS) 2123 Amersham to Watford (ECS) 0049 Watford to Rickmansworth Credits to Geoff Marshall.
Would love to see the Wherry Lines being added into TSW with the old and new stock, also the class 37 DRS would be a good addition to the 153, 156, 170 and 755.
This is the best news ever, the second London Underground route: the Metropolitan line. And hopefully, the Chatham Main Line between London Victoria & Faversham.
That second one ain't coming. At least not anytime for quite a while. They are moving away from the Southeastern side of things for now.
Wherry Line Eastern Region Anglia Diesel Action made by AP for TSC.For TSW 4 DTG with AP sounds Metropolitan Line TSC route made by Just Trains and can support Steam Locomotive the GWR 57xx Duck in TFL Maroon Colours with Metropolitan Railways Coach alongside the Modern S8 Stock. That one should be made by Just Trains again
Yes this is sort of a wishlist, and I used two popular ones (ECML and Wherry Lines) as I have seen plenty of suggestions for those two. The LU is requested but not so often, and the SWT ones are some that I want. Also I can’t remember where I got this, but I heard Dovetail considered the possibility of adding the Met.
Also, the only trouble with adding Wherry Lines is getting the GA license, but provided we get that, we can do the Wherry lines.
ECML South seems the most likely, although probably without the Thameslink core as King's Cross to Peterborough alone is very ambitious. Included trains presumably being the Class 700/1 and Class 801/2, with Classes 387/1 and 717 as optional extras. Flying Scotsman as a loco DLC too perhaps? Wherry lines would be nice but I doubt they can obtain the Greater Anglia branding, based on previous attempts. Similar situation with the Met line, where you would ideally need Chiltern Railways for the fast services to Aylesbury, but similar content was recently removed in TSC due to licensing hurdles with Arriva. I also don't believe they would pick a quieter regional route such as the Wherry lines as a base route in a new TSW4 (should that be the case) and would instead pick something a bit more engaging to show off the game's potential better to newer players. A SWT/SWR route out of Waterloo with the Desiros would be great, but going as far as Southampton is likely too complex; you've got a lot of stations on the London side of Woking with lots of dense urban scenery and a heavy timetable. A more metro focused route to Windsor with the Hounslow loop is better sized, but personally I would prefer many other routes to this, especially those away from the southern region for the time being. My other guesses being MML South from Blackfriars to Bedford (given the route is shorter than ECML to Peterborough, it could give a higher chance of us getting the Thameslink core) or something such as Edinburgh to Dundee with the Forth bridge. Another route using Northern as an operator is possible, or even with Trans-Pennine Express now that it is government owned. They also recently stated some sounds from a Class 350 were used in the production of the Class 700, so maybe there's plans to reuse these on an actual Class 350 - but don't look too deeply into that. If it were some part of the WCML then my best guess it would be somewhere in the Birmingham area to reuse New Street (not to London!).
I’d like to see SWT, but I do agree that we already have too many South London routes. I wouldn’t say it would be released with TSW4, but it could be released as a DLC later. Also, if we do the SWML, let’s end up doing it to Basingstoke instead. And yes, the GA license may be hard to get, and while we have it in TSC, we also have to get it for TSW. I’d say the most likely to get on this list is the ECML as a base, as we have the GTR license, and most of the trains are in the game, with some additional variants. And Arriva won’t be friendly with giving licenses either, so forget about Chiltern Railways.
One route i’ve always wanted to see would be fife circle line, with a 170 and a 158, and maybe a small extension to dundee where you could then prototypically include a reworked hst for inter7city services. If ecml south was added and included an 800, then that could also layer in.
Once again, the ECML and Wherry Lines are highly requested. The SWT ones are my wishlist, and the Metropolitan Line is a possibility.
I love any old trains no matter what, but just all old sub surface stock on the LU I do not like so I would consider the purchase but that's just me.
We have 18 UK routes total if my math is correct. . From the 18 we have 5 that are From London area. BML, Eastcoastway, Great western express, Bakerloo, SEHS. We have 4 routes south of London,the West cornwall, Isle of wight, west somerset and Island line(remake of Isle of wight). That's makes is 9 out 18 routes are south of London. Glossop, Peak forest, MML, Spirit of steam, Scotrail express, Birmingham, NTP, Cathcart, Tees valley. are north of London. Most of the routes south of London are more than 3 years old. 6 out of the last 7 UK released routes have been north of London. Looks to me is about even when it comes to UK routes
I was answering the post of "too many south London Routes. With that said Can you give an example of what route you want in game as you mentioned "the east" ? have you researched to see if they have the required licenses for the operators you want in the route?
We need a Greater Anglia route as they operate the most in the east. A Norfolk or/and Suffolk route would be amazing
Greater Anglia would be awesome. I don't think DTG has the license. Maybe if done in a different era might be able to do it
Okay I'm giving my thoughts because why not: ECML+FLYINGSCOTSMANCANTERY is deluxe (same with TSC) So.. what if its using TSC formula... Could we see a northern route maybe a modernised NTP? Pengitzbahn and an updated LIRR. This could be interested. Ofocurse the leaks could always be something else... maybe another Great British Railways games using the TSW engine (which if so just... don't..... its not good the first time I doubt it will be the second) which would certainly be interesting. Only time would tell. My personal picks for all places would be: UK: Portsmouth Direct Line: Waterloo - Portsmouth including a few branch lines. SWT era for liscening. US: Updated LIRR route DE: Linz-Passau or Frankfurt-Koblenz Deluxe: ECML SOUTH (with Canterary) This is just what I think- I have NO idea what it will be - Heck maybe the leaks are just a 4 way rush hour release.
I think it's very possible to obtain the license as they have it in train simulator but I wouldn't mind the ONE era
No is not sarcasm lol. I don't do that. He's 100% correct on the statement. That's why I copied the map to show
We still need the Welsh Ffestiniog line in TSW. This would be a great Spirit of Steam narrow gauge route.
Feel like we just need a welsh route at this point, would be nice to have a new operator and a different country.
It moreso 2/4 but yeah- those are just what I think would be good picks that would probably fit the game well and get people interested- you have commuter and intercity with PDL, Freight and Loco hauled passenger with Linz to Passu and Commuter with LIRR and a good deluxe choice.
Yet we had ScotRail before it got nationalized, and it was run by Abellio. However, some are harder to get than others. Just forget about asking Arriva, they want to gate keep their TOCs.
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...-cannon-street-tonbridge-and-sevenoaks.64835/ This is my first thread, I like the idea of it although a few legal issues. Main thing I need to say is TSW4 should not exist, it will be a waste of money for Dovetail and their customers. We do not need a fourth version of the exact same game just so they can take our money and produce mostly LOVE content, I am not trying to be rude here as recently (AKA: The 700) production standards have gone up but for graphics the price for things these days (especially with cost of living gone up) is insane.
Would love to have North Wales Coastal, or South Wales mainline. I really like Transport for Wales Livery, and they already have the license for TSC.
They can always backdate it slightly to when TFW was operated by a diffrent owner. They already have the Avanti Logo and probably the DB logo so it works out if you think about it - TFW'S previous owner appears to be a lot more layed back judging by TSC.
They wouldn't be able to use the previous TFW owner, as it's the same livery/logo. The current owner is the Welsh Government, so I don't think it would be an issue.
I'm quite partial to the Class 175 my self, but I've been riding it in real life for years lol. Would love to see the 150 and 158 in TFW livery as well.
Well... its a government in the UK. Needless to say the entire UK'S political landscape is collapsing in on itself more or less. I don't even know if the Welsh government would or not.
Different part of the government. Politics doesn't come into those agencies, they are separate like the MoD/NHS. So they're still running along fine. Welsh Government is pretty stable all things considered, I'd imagine they wouldn't have an issue with it.
Would be nice to and the 150, 158 and 175 in game is well for a welsh route I feel like they're more iconic on the welsh railway
