Train Sim World 3 Expansion Of The Current Sehs

I mean yeah, a lot of the routes in TSW are much, much shorter than they should be. Plenty of them finish in strange locations and not where they should do. Spirit of Steam, Peak Forest, Midland Mainline, Cathcart, West Cornwall Local as well as many others are all missing logical stuff they should have. SEHS, Bakerloo and the BML are pretty much the only UK routes that are approaching where they should be length wise. SEHS should 100% go to Dover Priory to complete the HS1 line.

 

It's already 80 miles.

 

It is, but it's still not the complete route.

 

Yeah kind of noticed that a bit too late oops but I never want to bash people or hate on people I am not like that if I disagree on something I try to bring it across as nice as I can, as I appreciate opinions and I would never dislike someone for having an opposite opinion. But what I wrote kind of goes to the people who think the sehs isn't good enough because I think we all got to appreciate DTG for the work they do just in general. But again NO hate was intended at all I am not like that I want everyone to be happy within themselves

 

But reading what I wrote I do apologise to happytrain as I just realised I did kind of bring it across very direct and personal. Sorry.

 

Good grief! So much angst over this route.

Yes, my listing the whole of Southeastern's network is meant in jest.

No, suggestions to actually complete the route are not terrible / depriving you of anything / world ending like some of you have reacted to the OP.
Piling-on to complain that someone has the temerity to suggest something you don't like is a slippery slope. There are plenty of your favourite suggestions that others find incredibly dull and don't want either.

We can appreciate the work that has gone into SEHS while also thinking that Dartford and Faversham are strange places to start/end for the North Kent Line extending into the Chatham Main Line, especially when BML exists from one end to another.

 

it's long enough
I guess ntp may as well be extended to liverpool and scarborough to complete the trans-pennine line (highly unlikely to ever happen)

 

Dover Priory is only 3 more stoppable stations from Ashford. But yes, more routes should definitely be extended to logical stopping points, rather than ending in the middle of nowhere.

 

manchester victoria and Leeds are logical ending points tbf

 

Run it from Liverpool Lime Street to Hull Paragon. Makes people from Merseyside and East Yorkshire happy and is half the distance of your proposal, while creating a true end-to-end route.

 

Point is, it was a ONE OFF, and there is plenty to do.

People should be thankful that it happened, as it likely won't do so again in the future.

 

Yeah, but the point is. It shouldn't be a one off, and it should be a regular thing. Many of the routes are too short, and end in stupid places.
They certainly won't do it again if we don't push more for it, and we'll just keep ending up with tiny Glossop sized routes.

 

But then you've got the problem of which routes get extended/remade.

I can guarantee that most people wouldn't be happy if *their* favourite route didn't get extended.

Sometimes small routes do wonders. I've been going back to Isle of Wight recently and quite like it.

However, if more is to come to SEHS, it will most likely be a separate DLC, rather than an extension to an already extended route.

 

TBF IOW is a bad example - Given it has the entire route (bar the Steam railway). But other then that yeah small routes are really good or atleast some are - Glossop is really fun.

 

I've nowt wrong with short routes but it is important we don't have all short routes as quite frankly there isn't a route which fulfils my, admittedly large, urge for an intercity drive.

SEHS is a good route, but it is starting to get a bit samey so leaving it alone is the right thing to do.

 

What I meant was that IOW is the only complete short route we currently have (where there is no big empty stations).

Can't really comment on Glossop as I don't yet own it.

There is just something appealing about short routes - probably that I don't really have time for longer routes much (I would like to dip my toes in one every now and then though).

 

Oh alright.


Tbf my only experience of Glossop is going seeing a freind and having a go at the route while being judged every second for my poor driving haha. But the route itself was fun.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

Yeah SEHS is a route I'm currently throughly digging my teeth into with every SEHS dlc on PS5 so I love it but I can defiantly see why people get bored of it after a while - to be fair it's possible to get bored of every route after a while.

For intercity arguably NTP is good but I've never touched it but I am interested in it and might grab it at some point.

And I know you and me both stick to UK so no point in talking about more. If the ECML is real that should help.

 

Yes my opinion of SE modern routes is well known but I don't actually mind a run on SEHS every now and then.

I adore NTP and it is my absolute favourite route of all time but when I say intercity I mean proper high speed driving like what's on GWE or MML but longer. When we get a route which gives a good 45-60 minutes of what I call (with absolutely no bias) proper train driving such as MML from Bedford up to Nottingham and Derby or ECML from Peterborough to Donny/York etc that will be fulfilling my IC urge!

 

Sorry didn't see that last bit until it was too late. I would adore ECML as it is my line and the line I know the best and goes through the areas of the country I know the best and love the best. I think I will need to accept the fact that it will be modern so all I can hope is that we get a HST so at least there is something out of the ordinary about it!

 

Not at all this southeastern route is not remotely close to finished their is so much missing from it even with the extension

 

Not even close to be completed , the route should be going as far back as ramsgate and dover priory , and as far forward as London, also it needs sheerness line , medway valley line , and maidstone line , until then it's not complete is it

 

I took a good long look and ohh yeh it's still not even remotely close to finished

 

If tsc can do it , so can tsw 3 simple really tsc is on an older engine and older tech , yet that's able to do it , but tsw3 with newer everything, is unable to do it lol

 

All of that map isn't actually needed , but we do need it up to well it was ramsgate but now ots thanet the new station lol great excuse to put the new station in lol via Dover priory, and finish the other end up to London charing Cross or Victoria maybe cannon Street wotever way they wanna do it then that's moreless the route finished, then all they would need to do is add maidstone and sheerness which is tiny , sheerness should of been added that will be a tiny little extension they could easily add , just think tsc has it so tsw can

 

Cos u can't just stop the route at Dartford 1 end and Faversham the other lol its just totoally incomplete needs to finish at ramsgate or the new thanet station now and via dover priory , and the other end needs to finish at London then it's totally complete apart from the side routes that could wait , sheerness line is tiny, that could of easily been added , maidstone line is a bit bigger so that could wait , and medway valley line could wait but the mainline needs to be added at least its cut short both ends

 

You do realise what you asking for is equivalent to at least 4 route dlc's in itself, sorry sir but your expectations for Sehs or any route in general are incredibly unrealistic and don't use the excuse 'if tsc can do it so can tsw' because it took nearly a decade for the tsc version to get where it is now and some of that was done by 3rd party's, not dtg.

 

No there isn't, I don't need to explain why. It's been mentioned several times before

 

It's much more difficult to build routes on tsw3 due to the higher details/graphics etc. TSC graphics aren't as good and are able to run well on most PCs hence the longer routes.

 

This is a very bad idea, Sehs has already been extended and definitely doesn't need extending again, and I'm sure dtg said they ain't gonna extend it again. I'm just saying what I think

 

Why is this even a discussion?

DTG have already stated numerous times there are no more southeastern routes for the foreseeable future.

Edit: Just to note, a route doesn't need end to end services to be complete, and this one is 89 miles already.

 

There is loads missing lol

 

Don't care how big it is its literally cutt short each end

 

Once you have all the layers, you will see that the route is as complete as can be.

 

Really lol, Sehs is the most complete route we have in Tsw.

 

like what?
You got lot's of train DLCs, lot's of services, 90mile route length, also the only extension etc what else do you want?

 

How about medway Valley is missing, the rest of the Chatham mainline is missing so up to ramsgate and dover priory, how about the other end should be going to London victoria or london cannon street or maybe even london friars so it should contain the rest of the stops lol , the sheerness branch is also missing , there is loads of the route missing

 

It really isn't

 

It really is

 

Do you realise that you're essentially asking for the impossible right?

Do you have absolutely zero comprehension as to just how difficult and time consuming it would be to develop all that?

As I and others have already stated several times now, Sehs is the most complete route in Tsw in terms of total route mileage and service variety.

 

Sounds like he needs to have a go at using the editor and seeing how long it takes him?

 

You know, the whole purpose of SEHS was to showcase the Javelin and HS1. There is more to do than time available in a day.

I'd say it is complete enough.

 

Absolutely this! ^

 

So you're asking for the whole bloody southeastern network?
May as well extend Edinburgh to Glasgow to idk let's say Paris all of that route is missing

 

Like I sed its not remotely complete and its not impossible at all tsc has it all so therfore tsw can do it with better tech should be easier, but I found understand how it works and it woukd take some time, but it needs doing

 

Kool look a tsc has all of it

 

Actually I'm not asking for the whole southeastern cos it's actually even bigger then wot I'm asking for its cutt short both ends stops at Dartford and stops at Faversham when it should stop at London and stop at ramsgate via Dover priory

 

London to Ramsgate & Dover Priory (via Ashford and Faversham) is basically the entire network, where the bulk of SEHS services go.

 

so a big chunk of the southeastern network, not happening

 

tsc has an older game engine and is much easier to make longer routes on it.