Introduction Hello, welcome back to another suggestion! Today it's about game features. Last time we had a big update was in 2022 for Rush Hour. Since then there hasn't been many improvements to the base system for TSW besides graphics and lighting overhauls for TSW3. I'm talking about features that effect gameplay and the experience. I'd like that to change and I'd like for passengers and game to be more realistic.. 1. Luggage The sheer amount of luggage you see some passengers with is astonishing some days. I would like passengers in tsw to Have a minimum of a backpack or a suitcase. Tbh, it's rare to see someone on a train without some sort of luggage. Some passengers could even habs shopping bags or other types of bags. You get the jist. 2. Background Chatter Having a silent train is just uncanny. We need some sort of background noise other than the train sounds just to represent the presence of the passengers. 3. Disabled Passengers We need passengers that are disabled in the game. This would mean you would have to bring them a ramp to board. Disabled passengers could range from people with crutches to people in wheelchairs. We just need that implemented in the game. 4. Basic things on tables I can't remember the last time I was in a train with clean tables. We need items on the tables to make it seem more alive. This could range from personal belongings, tickets, or a passengers meal. 5. Toilets I'm not saying we need full toilet functionality but having the toilet in use or toilet out of order sign illuminated instead of having us not be able to access it for no reason would be a big improvement. 6. Railfans Most of us here on the forums are railfans. So we've probably all scouted out some bridge or spot at a station or in the town for taking videos/photos. Having the occasional Railfan at a bridge or a station would be great to see in tsw. And maybe you could include a feature so you get bonus points for tooting your horn at them! 7. Police/Emergency Services Could we have the transport police patrol stations and trains. Or even just anyold emergency services at stations sometimes. Every time I'm in Glasgow Central I've seen some sort of officer patrolling about the place. 8. Station Staff Wither it's gateline or other staff it would definitely make stations feel more alive. I feel like this should have been included in the beginning but sadly it wasn't. 9. Train Dispatchers I know this comes under train staff but it's kinda a separate suggestion almost. At the bare minimum we need a whistle blow for when trains are due to depart. Personally I'd love to see a proper dispatcher with their baton/flag and whistle but I could probably settle for an invisible blow of a whistle to dispatch trains. 10. Station Announcements We need station Announcements! If I go to a station and there is no train announcements it feels kinda dead! It could also be dynamic so if your train is delayed or a a.i service is delayed then that could be announced! There could also be cancellation announcement for during scenarios. I know it's not really a passenger feature but it deserves a place in this thread! This feature Greatly improves realisim and the feel of the game. And the announcement need to be the real life voice. Not some generic dtg staff recording. 11 Families and Children It's very coman to see kids on trains without or without their parents. This should be implemented as it's really unrealistic and is a bit strange not having them onboard. This category includes adding teenagers as well. 12 Door Release In real life everyone know the doors don't open themselves (on most trains) they unlock and the button to open them lights up. You press the button. The doors open. You get on. We need this in tsw. We could also do with automatic door close. Some trains have sensors at the doors and if no one passes through them after about a minute they will close. They will still be unlocked until the driver/gaurd closes them though. If dtg can't be bothered making the animations for passengers opening the doors. Then have only the doors open that the a.i is pathfinding to and release the rest. That way it still looks realistic. 13. Stay Behind The Yellow Line!!! Frequently a.i in TSW will walk over the yellow line all the time. If your train is whizzing by at 100mph then they might fall over at the very least. They should either stay back, have phycics for the trains wooshing past or have staff shout at them. Otherwise these passengers are like aliens. Also please include announcements at stations for fast trains approaching. 14. Driver Shifts Suggestion by T.83 15. Clutter and OHLE Wear and Tear by pessitheghost 16. Staffed Restaurant Cars We're almost done with all the pandemic regulations. Train restaurant cars are opening up now. Could we have someone at the restaurant car standing there to make it looked like it's staffed? That would be nice. And on other services we could have someone walking down the train with a trolley like irl. 17. Livery Designer, Interior Livery Designer and Route Editor by sam#2862 & lord everything 18. Hump Yards by driverwoods#1787 and OldVern Wikipedia: Hump yards are the largest and most effective classification yards, with the largest shunting capacity, often several thousand cars a day. They work similarly to gravity yards, but the falling gradient is limited to a small part of the yard, namely the hump. It is the heart of the yard—a lead track on a small hill over which an engine pushes the cars. Single cars, or a block of coupled cars, are uncoupled at or just before the crest of the hump, and roll by gravity onto their destination tracks in the area of the yard where the cars are sorted, called the classification bowl. The first hump in Germany (Leipzig) was built in 1858 and in France (Saint-Etienne) in 1863. Conclusion This would make a great addition to tsw and would greatly improve realisim! Hopefully you like it! If there are other passenger features you'd like to see then please reply below. Thanks for reading!
He's come back and he is knocking the suggestions out the ball park, great job mate and most if not all should be possible to add in game in the future
All easy to implement and improve realism. Hopefully dtg implements this. DTG Matt please consider for next major update
These four are probably the ones which I think are missing the most, as it's rare not to see someone on a footbridge or on a path next to the tracks who looks at the train as it wizzes by and the other three are things of the real world and the last two especially are still crucial to the safety and running of the railway. Obviously all 10 would be great but these four are the ones that stuck out to me most
I love the sound of all of the ones you suggested but these ones stood out the most to me. I like the idea of the BTP, maybe they could do their thing where they walk on the train and most of the time stand at the doors instead of sitting. That's just a thing I have seen many times in many places just little detail would be nice. But what a suggestion.
I've literally seen them talk to the driver. Walk on. Arrest someone. And walk off again within 2 mins. XD I don't expect dtg to implement that as it would be alot. But just patrolling about would be good. Thanks for the feedback!
The sad fact is that (anecdotally) I've seen more BTP arrests on trains than disabled people on-board them, and that's a very rare occurrence. Station announcements should be included. They're easy to implement and don't take away much time from improving key elements of TSW or bug fixes.
Haha they do their job pretty quick but yeah would be nice just to implement patrolling or whatever but that's okay
Yea. Lol. On my local it's mostly just me but like on mainlines there is almost always someone spotting. Would be great to have implemented!
Can we add Chat AI? Being to able to chat with passengers on the train and on the platforms. I've seen some crazy stuff with AI NPC dialogue from Chat GPT on YouTube and would fit this kinda game. Hearing a granny tell her story why she is visiting her grandchildren with the train
I know but it would be neat. I don't like to be a passenger on the trains in TSW because every passenger looks so scary. They might be less scary once I get to know them
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, how about passengers opening doors individually instead all at once? Btw great thread and hopefully we will have passenger features
Good thinking that would be so good to have individual doors opening with passengers pressing the button or opening them if they're slam doors. Then the doors close after a certain amount of time like they do on a set timer.
Ikr! Hopefully dtg will look at this thread and see which of these features they can add to the game.
Agreed when conductors press door release in RL it only turns on the door open/close buttons for passengers this should be in game.
Yup! Exactly! Should have been a feature from the get go but wasn't. Hopefully it gets added! It's the feature I want added the most to TSW!
Passengers not walking along the edge of the platform as you bomb through at 90 mph would be another great thing to add to this list of yours Nathan.
Yeah, they'd be getting shouted at so hard for crossing the yellow line by the station staff. Always hear them screaming at people lol.
Yea. I remember I was at my local. Wasn't over the line but was at the very edge of the platform and some guy from station staff came over and shouted at us for being over an 'invisible line'. We weren't over the yellow line or like off the platform but it was close. So yea. They don't like that. I nearly missed an Avanti wc voyager But yea. Maybe it could come along the station staff category and you could actually watch the staff shout at them.
ScotRail Edition: *PLEASE STAND BACK FROM THE PLATFORM EDGE, FAST TRAIN APPROACHING!* or *THE NEXT TRAIN AT PLATFORM X DOES NOT STOP HERE! PLEASE KEEP WELL BACK FROM THE PLATFORM EDGE!*
This is already in the game since the first Expansion Pack for TSW2! It is not often used sadly enough, only in scenarios
I think you would much prefer them shouting than a driver stopping a train and shouting at you as I have done a couple of times. One of my biggest niggles/bug bears which has caused me more than a few brown pants moments.
Suggestion Update Notes 10.08.2023 Added suggestion by T.83 on Driver Shifts Added suggestion by pessitheghost on Clutter and OHLE Wear and Tear.
How about a working hump on a railway yard. Some routes have a attached hump yard to them starting with Cajon Pass Barstow Sand patch grade Cumberland Maryland. These are followed by the German routes former West Germany Rhein-Ruhr Osten and Ruhr-Sieg Strecke Hagen Vorhalle and Hauptstrecke München Augsburg Rbf München Nord. Leslie former East Germany German Democratic Republic these are Rapid Transit Leipzig Engelsdorf and Bahnstrecke Dresden Chemnitz Werdau Tharandter Rampe Nahverkehr Dresden Dresden Friedrichstadt
Update Notes 13/08/23 Added Suggestion by sam#2862 Added Suggestion by lord everything Added Suggestion by OldVern and driverwoods#1787
There also needs to be a function where you can select if a livery appears in timetable mode or not. It is very annoying if you make/download a livery for a scenario and it appears when you don't want it to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_yard Scroll down to the relevant section. There were several in the UK including Kingmoor at Carlisle. If you play the American Run 8 sim that has two working hump yards, Barstow and West Colton, where you can either push cars over the ramp yourself or get the AI to do it.
Queensland rail "an express train will pass this station in aprox 1 min on platform x, please stand behind the yellow safety line"
If we get hump yards, I want to see the hump in Barstow added and UP's massive Bailey Yard in North Platte, Nebraska (the largest freight yard in the world at 8 miles long and 2 miles wide). I also would love to see track maintenance equipment that could even be operated in a scenario. The final idea I have is working intermodal cranes that could load and unload containers. San Bernardino on Cajon Pass has an intermodal yard, and BNSF is building an intermodal facility near Barstow Yard.
(Using BML as an example from London Victoria )Would like to have “The train now approaching platform 9 is the 10:30 Southern service to Brighton calling at Clapham Junction East Croydon Gatwick Airport Hayward’s Heath and Brighton platform 9 for the 10:30 Southern service to Brighton when boarding the train please mind the gap between the train and the platform edge. Other station announcements can include no smoking, unattended luggage, next train to arrive, train not stopping, and the train at platform x Being able to create custom train formations in custom scenarios as well as being able to select any platform at a station would be good
I'd love proper station announcements but we'd probably have to settle for fast train announcements only until dtg perfect it..
