What Do You Think Dtg Will Announce?

East or west coast mainline and acela extension, along with an ICE

 

If you want to play this game you have to pay. If you’re not willing to pay then it’s curtains

 

The dovetail direct stream will start and it’ll just be a 24 hour countdown to the actual announcement

 

They will drop the number and move to a periodic DLC dump with core improvements ala TSC.
People complain about dropping 50 bucks for a new game, but 50 bucks for a pack of 3 DLC along with a promise of continued core improvements seems well worth it. Even though in practice this is exactly the same thing.

 

Every single game has their devs releasing content improving the game overall by additional features, except for Dovetails. They are earning enough with Dlcs to have a spare change left to release Features to the game, but they simply won't, as the Train Sim Community is desperate and will end up buying anything anyways.

 

• I would think that is a possibility as Matt has often stated his liking for Welsh Narrow Gauge.

 

A route editor that would enable all the un-accessible track in SOS and MML to be usable would be nice.

 

I truly believe, that after the French takeover, the Dovetail Games will sell up, move to France, and open a shop selling Baguettes.

 

I hope its not a new core game... I think that will blow up in their faces because there are always going to be some hold backs who refuse to get the new one and demand updates to the old game, splitting the resources of the developer. Unless its a major change like a new engine I don't see the need to make a new game, even TSW2 > 3 was not much of a change, and you have people still on TSW2 to this day complaining about how it went down.

That said I am not against the idea of some major DLC pack even if it costs almost new game prices. I like the model that Snowrunner uses for example, the core game doesn't change but it always gets updated and each "season" you can add on to it with a major DLC update.

 

I do hope it's the ECML Kings X to Newcastle and seeing as it's to long they could split it in to two parts part 1 kings X to York then part 2 can be Northallerton to Newcastle.

 

Uhh - two things.

One - First route is 200+ miles with countless stations

Two - Thats missing a part of the route.

 

I've seen a lot of people talking about TSW moving to UE5 but I think I've been living under rock, is it out? Are devs able to use it now? I haven't heard anything regarding UE5 in a while. Even if it is out now I doubt DTG will move to it any time soon.

 

Not sure they would sell many as most will be only demi-baguettes and often underbaked.

 

King's Cross - Peterborough is much more likely.

 

Yes, UE5 has been released last year. I don't see DTG transferring any time soon as it means a lot of work.

At the moment, the early access game Satisfactory is transferring from UE4 to UE5 and man, the test version for UE5 is ROUGH. If TSW switches to 5, I would expect a broken slideshow for one or two years rather than a functional product as we all know how fast DTG is at fixing issues.

 

Ue5 has been out for some time now. I think it's on version 5.2, not sure. But it's still relatively new and other devs have been incorporating it into their games. Tsw hasn't for many reasons. One reason is that it's way too much work for every single dlc. So far there's around 80 dlc that would all need to be updated/redone to be compatible with ue5. From Maik, who is part of Tsg, transitioning to ue5 requires a significant amount of work since the track laying logic is very different. It isn't just a simple task to do. As the dlc list continues growing, it becomes more complicated. Another reason is that dtg are waiting for it to become more major and adopted by many other big developers.

Ue5 doesn't mean a better game either. Sure new dynamic lighting with lumen and graphics with nanite is wonderful but it means nothing if it's not done properly.

 

Replying to the Two part of what you said what i ment was kings X to York then in part 2 it can be York to Newcastle it's kinda what they did in the Glossop line plus if they did it in two parts or two different maps no.1 less memory and no 2 it can be used for people who don't like to do the whole route.

 

That's disappointing if only TSW was like TSC.

 

I have, three times now, and the bugs are still present... Other companies transform their game with free QoL updates. ETS2 is a completely different game now than it was 10 years ago, but it's still ETS2, all updates were free, though. But then again, most people wouldn't mind paying if you got any value from it, paying for the very basics in improvements (well, improvements on paper anyway) is just going to scare away both new players and veterans..

 

This

 

that isn't how glossop works atall.



EDIT: glossop is still the entire route with all the AI, its just split due to an error on DTG's hand with the dinting triangle. Its still the entire route with all the AI, it actualyl doesent mean it all. Your basically asking for an Entire Kings x - Newcastle route just with split services which STILL has memory issues because of how TSW loads routes and AI would still be everywhere because of the way portals work (nothing like in TSC)

 

I was just making a point M8.

 

I edited explaining why the point isnt valid BTW.

 

honestly I don't have ideas about what they'll announce other than TSW4 or a big update like RH but I just hope we perhaps get an ICE 4 at some point, that'd be good for Kassel-Würzburg

 

Originally the Tsc version was King's Cross - Peterborough too.

 

Yeah it took the ledgends of SpeedyPete himself to merge it.

 

Still think if we get the southern ECML, it's more likely to be Kings Cross to Hitchin, with maybe Blackfriars thrown in...

 

I didn't know seeing as I don't play TSC.

 

I hope not, that would be a massive waste of potential especially where the Intercity services are concerned.

 

A more northerly section would be more interesting instead of straight level track. Berwick to Edinburgh with curves and interesting countryside.

 

Honestly this is my hope:
ECML south (London x cross to anywhere as far as peterborough) - Modern
Peterborough - Anywhere as far as York - 2010's (91's and HST's)
York - anywhere as far as newcastle - BR era
ECMl North Newcastle - Anywhere up to Edinburgh - Either modern or 2010's
SECML - Modern

 

91’s would be great to see.

 

rather than having it all in different eras, and for some consistency for a possible future connection, would it not be better to see a future idea for era packs, (probably the same price as a route due to the trains needed also) where for the most part the main track is will stay along with some scenery but the other scenery parts etc are changed to have more appropriate scenery & stock.

 

Wouldn't work - Several parts of the ECMl have had changes since then. A simply loco and slight scenic swap won't really help atall. We know merges are extremely unlikely so why not have fun and have diffrent eras.

 

King's Cross - Peterborough would be the most logical choice imo as we already have a few trains in Tsw that operate along that section, class 387, class 700 and (depending on set year) the class 313 and Hst.

The only new train we'd need is the class 800/801 or (again depending on set year) the class 91

Other trains such as the class 180 could come later as dlc.

 

Maybe mergers are the new feature?

 

I was expecting it to be a practical remake of the same route, but if that’s what’s necessary it would possibly happen with such a route, in the mean time it may be better to release each section like some in different eras but eventually re release another section in another era (most likely would depend on how well DTG expect it to be taken in sales numbers)

Edit: i would say the system isn't their for mergers at this point and would require something of a considerable investment of time and effort on how to rectify that, it may happen, people use to talk about how they don’t do extensions then along came Ashford and Dartford, so they can happen.

 

I eventually had the entire East Coast Main Line in TSC, some of it might have been JT.

I found most of it quite tedious, especially the southern parts as far as Newcastle, long stretches of mostly straight track, particularly the York- Newcastle run. North of the Tyne into Scotland it got more interesting.

But surely there are some more engaging parts of the UK railway, perhaps the lines out of Carlisle or Cumbria, for instance. Or better still, the Welsh Marches or the Cambrian Coast.

King's Cross to Peterborough, I think I'll pass.

 

York to Newcastle is the most scenic (once over the racetrack admittedly)! In the right rolling stock it is a real blast though. Thrash up the racetrack and then take more of a cruise through the scenery which plagues the Northern end of the section when you're off the racetrack. The section I think we will get is the most tedious section of the line. The TSC ECML really does not do the route justice at all, I mean I am not saying the TSW version would do it better but TSC doesn't do the route any justice scenery wise. Don has a couple of videos of Newcastle to York and they show why I love that section and how I would want to see it.

The issue with the other lines you mention is service frequency on many branches like the Cambrian etc is very, very low meaning it may well be less engaging because the timetable would be very empty, especially in a modern era, which would turn many people off straight away. I do agree they would be lovely to see though. Maybe Newcastle to Carlisle would be a good start.

Anyway I will wake up and stop dreaming now until anyone else puts anymore ideas in my head.

 

I do wonder whether we're in for a shock, like Kings Cross to York. Obviously with HST/700/387 layers plus an IET.
Flying Scotsman Pack with an A3, a 55 and a 91 the latter having a layer in the above route if you get both.

US - New York Subway A Line
DB - Any Berlin S Bahn route.

 

Already been shot down unfortunately

 

Ironically KGX to York has one more station than BML (29 vs 28) it’s 188 miles long and would need a good new 6 trains to run on it (800-803,91,387,717,180)(not including 185s,220s,333s)

why the hell would you set the ECML in different eras… that’s a bad idea. If it’s classic it should stay classic if it’s modern it should stay modern throughout

 

York to Newcastle and scenic is a serious juxtaposition! North of Newcastle however is an absolute eye catcher

 

Definitely will be a great route to add.

 

Just like they've been doing with TS since 2009...

 

That's why DLCs make dovetail games more money if the product is good quality and affordable.

 

8.22

 

Why?


We know merges are more unlikely then a eurostar licence so why not actually experiment?

 

The extension wasn't actually am extension but a route remake

Calling it anything but a remake is just wrong.

 

probably stays a dream