Tsw 4 *spoiler Alert You Have Been Warned*.

they release one US freight and one US passenger route a year………
For now I’m just looking forward to the New NYT timetable that should be coming out and should had come out to begin with. Instead I will probably have to upgrade to finally get it.. It was the turn for a freight route so I’m just counting it as one. Not sure what this is much anyways.looking forward to next US passenger route in February….. which we hope can look forward to finally getting a real representation of busiest commuter railroad in North America a new LIRR route

 

Lol. Nah, let's have the 5 day sleeper route from Toronto to Vancouver instead. I'm sure dtg will manage that! XP
(Jk)

 

I disagree. We used to believe anything over 60 miles was unreasonable and we have moved passed that point.

 

Be careful giving this much credit to DTG for being strategic with their route selections as I've been burned before).

While I really hope you're right and that the Glossop Line route was a gateway route, getting Manchester Piccadilly into the game so it can be refused on other routes, particually the WCML towards Brimingham New Street I won't belive it until I see it.

When I saw Peak Forest announced I was convinced that another route was choses to add stock to SOS (as the budget didn't strech to three lococs when building it) and they chose the transition time period to appeal to both steam and early diesel fans. I though we'd see a green 111 (or at least a reskined 101) and the 4F was to be layed onto SOS. In the end we get a very pretty but empty, unrealistic route!

I really hope that DGT become more strategic and forward thinking from now on, but I wouldn't bet on it!

 

OK. Let's continue this discussion when we pass 120 miles(without tunnels on 45% of its length). Maybe approximately TSW9 we start talking about Cascades.

 

All those combine

as long as you receive one like is a good candidate. At the end come out to time and how easy is to make and turn a route out.

 

I agree.

 

Anything over 60 miles that has a lot of stations or complex scenery is still pretty much off limits for DTG. Matt himself has said that the station modeling is what takes the longest and most effort to do for the scenery modelers. It’s not that they can’t do it, it’s that the time it takes to do it doesn’t pay off in the end. There’s a reason the longest routes in the game are either American freight with static scenery (Cajón pass) or high speed routes with little stations and lots of tunnels (SKW).

 

It’s clear we’re getting something. No one is denying that. It’s obviously going to be announced on Tuesday. It may in fact be called tsw4 and it is more than likely the speculations are at least partially correct.

But what is it exactly ? You don’t know, I don’t know, anyone who isn’t dtg doesn’t know.

will it be like tsw3 was rolled out?

will it be rolled out differently as others have suggested and called tsw4?

is it coded tsw4 in these databases but simply rebranding as tsw?

there’s nothing wrong with speculating and there isn’t anything wrong with taking that speculation with a grain of salt.

to take that speculation and push is it as a fact is premature

 

how do you measure the length of railway line? curious how people find out the exact length

 

Let’s assume your right. How many trains a day is that. It cannot ever be anything near NYT. If the current NYT timetable will blow that away. The only passenger service even remotely close to the nec and njt in this country is around Meta and chicago. Subways excluded. It’s not like europe where train volumes and passenger services are abundant just about everywhere.

 

Just like on a highway. It’s not as the crow flies. Measure from milepost 0

 

Like go on Google Maps, choose point A and Point B, select transport "by train"? Then Google create some magic and done.

 

I didn't say anything about service count in comparing it to NYT. But LA-San Diego is the busiest passenger route on the west coast. Obviously it doesn't compare in service count because nowhere else in the country has anything close to metropolitan density as NY. Trains per day is not the only thing that makes a route good.

 

I'm starting to think that "off the beaten track" is the tagline for TSW4. If so that would rule out any mainline, it would mean all of the routes being released have that in common. I can see the discussion now - these are smaller routes which all have nice feature X and cool thing Y about them, we want to showcase a variety of areas we haven't been to before etc...meanwhile everyone hoping for DRA and ECML are going to be sorely disappointed.

 

DTG should really focus on getting NY right. I would spend money on a NY series like on the German rail network if that's the busy network in the USA. But they need to get NY up to video game standards. DTG's NY looks way too generic.

From what I learned about the USA rail network is that it's centred around freight. People that like freight seem to like the USA routes so I think they nailed it for freight. Keep copying those hills and sands and boom another USA route but If NY is where the passengers are it's a no brainer that's where the services should be.

 

I saw a video and its a stunning route on the coastline as well! And if you have 122km 76miles thats a very long route and with less trains its fully okay! The route it self is stunning! What i hope they use the timetable from before 2016 and you have more services. But with the modern one its for me more than enough to play!

 

I'm not disappointed. I still need to get disappointed. Austria sounds cool. UK still might be cool and there is also still a German route to be uncovered. If those don't disappoint the Antelope route could still be a nice addition.

I don't think the routes will really disappoint. The major disappointment will be TSW4 I guess. When I play this Antelope route with its low traffic timetable and notice a stutter. When o look at the same hud. When I see trees appear in front of me out of nowhere. When I look at the shadow on the tracks and it's the same shadow as TSW3. That's the moment I will be disappointed. TSW4 needs to be a big step up in performance not to disappoint for me

 

I think you might be right...and i think they have massively misjudged on this one.

TSW4: Sleepy Railways Edition

Can't get more exciting than that /s

 

Um, the link to DTG.com you list is a link to these forums, and represents nothing more than fan speculation.

 

You realize LA and SD are 150 miles apart? It would be like a London-York DLC.

 

You are confusing the entire line from San Luis Obispo to San Diego, LA and San Diego is only 120ish miles.

 

On Antelope Valley: back when Matt etc did a piece on DTG's route selection process, one of the very major factors considered is licensing: What can we legally make? With US passenger it is especially important, because nearly all the passenger traffic in the USA that runs with any frequency outside the NEC is on local commuter rail systems, each of which has to be licensed separately. So as much as we might want to have MARC or SEPTA or Metra and the regions they service, it appears that Metrolink is the license DTG actually has.

And once your only option is metrolink, it then boils down to "what reasonably complete line is practically buildable?" Hence Antelope Valley.

 

Yeah, somehow I mentally swapped out "3 hours" with "300 miles." Corrected. DTG still aren't going to do 130 miles (200 km), not through heavily built-up country.

 

Would belong in Tram sim world for a start as it’s a light rail system, it’d be terrible…

 

Hey everyone but I just found this it probably isn't anything but when I logged out of the forums this image popped up.

 

Quite interesting. The mountains behind should be the Alps in Vorarlberg, perhaps a route with the Acela? and the train in the middle with London'? As you can see London buildings, I'm missing some clues for the ICE T.

 

Ah yes, the Ferris wheel on the right looks like the Sky Lounge Wheel in Warmemünde.

 

dofflesplays#6419 I have that too, but what has that to do with an alleged "TSW4"?

 

Yeah, and the post had a link to a PNG file on the dovetail media website.
A PNG called TSW4_Antelope, and another one called TSW4_voralberg.
So no, it's not "fan speculation". It's sourced from DTG themselves, it's a leak.

 

Well there is the 800 but it could be nothing

 

I am confused by the plane and the water

 

Erm... There isn't any Acela in Vorarlberg, Austria...

 

Well in Tsw3 we don't have the class 800

 

it is the TS2015 image

 

Okay didn't realise I just thought it may of been a little hint.

 

This picture has been on the logout screen for a long time. Is there a class 800 in TSC? This should be a picture containing all DTG-Sims, as there is also a fish seen on that picture. No room for specutation to be found there.

 

This is from Train Simulator 2015

https://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl...2ahUKEwjiuPjDteSAAxWqzQIHHQwtAygQMygCegQIARBb

 

I'm pretty sure there is a 800 in TSC. So it may just be the logout screen instead of it being a leak.

 

As I thought, thanks. Just a simple logout screen.

 

Yep just my mistake.

 

I would wet myself laughing so hard if Dovetail are playing 4D chess with everyone, knowing exactly what to call all the dev depots, and the files attached to them, again knowing that they would probably be leaked, because that's exactly what I would do just to see so many people with copious amounts of egg on their faces.............

 

But they do have other licenses- they have MBTA- why not do another Boston route? Doesn't have to be the portion on the NEC.

They have the LIRR and MNRR licenses- plenty of options there that don't involve the NEC

They have the NJT license- again plenty of options.

It's hard not to get frustrated when we're always starting back at square-one.

If in a couple years we have a huge network based around LA/Metrolink i'll be very happy, but DTG's track record makes me very skeptical it will happen.

 

Yes this is what I am saying. The word "Antelope" really has no other context. The image it linked to was a trolley car. Everything else is speculation. Based solely off this information, the new US route could be...

anything.

 

Decals unlocked by mastery do not always relate to the route.
Austrians do, as that will be a new vountry, which was not yet in TSW.
But with all the US routes we had, they now give some random decals, that do not yet exist.

 

Probably because there is more to the United States than just the Northeast, and today the only US passenger route that isn't in that region is SF-SJ.

 

So far is not looking good. I guess the only evidence is We can go by is “the flying scotsman centenary edition Epic DB smithfield104”. But if is not for some part of the ECML what else can it be? Unless is just that a label and is really something else.

 

Official, VR support for TSW confirmed with new collaboration with National Railway Museum!

https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/flying-scotsman/centenary-programme/flying-scotsman-vr

Could be this?

 

Literally any other line that the Flying Scotsman could run on in Britain! Most of her tours this year haven't even been on the ECML anyway. I think there were more than one on the Settle and Carlisle. That line would also fit the 'Off the beaten track thing'.

I think she went to Gt Yarmouth on the wherry lines too.

 

really immersive. The graphics on it are excellent. Maybe that is what the future of tsw looks like