Tsw 4 *spoiler Alert You Have Been Warned*.

It's not a bad thing per se. It's just not very stimulating. My riding mower has more controls than a 323 and is more challenging to drive. Dirtier too.

I have a hard time believing that most players are completely indifferent to the historical railway. And what " variety of traction " have we seen recently, other than the occasional steam loco. There needs to be a mix of both old and new which is not the case now.

As for the " diehards ", many of us are playing TSW.

 

which is why for the longest I haven’t understood why a GE P42DC (Amtrak) hasn’t shown up in game yet.

 

No real good route for them as a base loco. Though in theory they should sub onto multiple routes, including the speculated Antelope Valley Line.

Alot of us thought Cajon would of been the debut of them, due to having 3 Amtrak stations on route, but instead we got 2 mediocre repaint dlcs.

 

What German route? Sounds like the Austrian route is replacing the German one.

 

Actually if you follow the the history of TSC it is linked to MSTS as it was the successor to Kuju's Rail Simulator when it it was called Railworks. And Kuju made MSTS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovetail_Games?wprov=sfla1

 

Yep, Remember those amazing screenshots of “Microsoft Train Simulator 2”, right before it got cancelled? I believe the carcass of that is what became EA/Kuju Rail Simulator (TSC).

 

Wasn't there a BLS 465 in those MSTS2 screenshots? Ah, what could have been. Not sure we've ever seen BLS in a Train Sim addon - shame really, as there's so much potential.

 

Yes, I remember the day when we found out that MSTS2 was stillborn. A dark day indeed.

 

It lists it as a separate upload on the epic database, but we don't know what it could be.

 

Sure was! That and some BNSF C44-9W shots. A few others too I believe.

 

Cool I hope so, I love german routes.

 

Also looking back through the threads DTG called Rush Hour a season pass.

Maybe a sign if season pass was in a leak it might mean the same thing. Free upgrade and only pay for the routes. But they will be a staggered release.

 

MSTS had the route as well, with A3 steam locomotive. I don't know about the other 2

 

But there is already a lot of vintage trains in this game. Even before the 90's era German trains. Sure the UK fleet may look modern to people in the UK. But it took a long time for me to understand I was driving the modern fleet of the UK. The UK routes are filled with vintage trains. I would even argue there is a lack of modern trains. The only missing historical train was steam. Steam is now in the game so they can stop turning Trains Sim World into Train Sim Museum

 

What could be cool in term of era is the Brunel Gauge of the GWR. It could take place when there was 1435 mm gauge and the 2140 mm one.

 

Another “die-hard” here who was bred on a diet of BR blue. For me TSW is a driving game but also a time machine which can whisk me back to days gone by. Still waiting for a route set in the golden era of early 20th century Britain where trains were the no1 mode of transport and the railway network was at its apogee. The modern content is okay, but it is not organic - it rarely sets the heart pounding and somewhat lacks the aural sensations of a thumping, growling diesel or the barks, chuffs and hisses of a “living” steam engine. I’ll play any route that’s interesting enough but I do like it when DTG provides a varied selection of eras. .

 

You had me at Scotland and lost me at 80/90's

 

The day after tomorrow we will finally know more!

 

in germany we say übermorgen

 

Very true. I started my railway interest in the late 60’s/early 70’s, then starting work on the real railway in 1977 opened up the network with reduced and free travel perks. They were great times and it was a sad day in the late 1980’s when the loco hauled trains and other rolling stock with a bit of character was progressively replaced by bland modern boxes. We have several types of Electrostar in the game but they all drive and sound the same. BML for example is a masterpiece so far as the timetable is concerned, but 99.9% Electrostar. Imagine how it would have been with a mix of BIG’s/CIG’s, VEP’s, EPB’s, Thumpers, maybe 73’s on the Gatwick Express. I never did understand all the clamour for the 700. I mean it’s a nicely modelled train (apart from the sounds) but just so characterless.

 

For me the sounds are the best part because the DC sounds sound almost exactly like my local train

 

Funny anecdote… Just bought a Toyota Yaris Hybrid and driving round the hospital car park the other day on the juice, could swear I heard a faint bit of Electrostar in there!

 

No, majority of UK content is modern era. Historical routes we currently have from DTG are Northern Trans-Pennine, Tees Valley Line, Spirit of Steam and Peak Forest, the rest is modern era. There is far from a lack of modern stock in the game, it's just that the variety of that content is lacking in the majority of recent releases as they have been EMU focused.

Also now that steam is in the game, that does not mean the focus should go all to modern. There's a massive variety of steam locomotives in all sorts of shapes, sizes and liveries, especially if you go back to the Big Four era or earlier, and that's just the UK alone. There's also German and US steam fans who want to see steamers from their regions represented in the game.

As I've said above, I just want to see an equal rotation in the release of Steam/Diesel/Modern content from DTG. It increases the variety of the game and prevents stagnation of constant modern era releases.

 

ECML route Kings Cross to Knebworth.

Why Knebworth? To make sure all players stop there. Even Matt.

 

Lmao! Some cars do sound a bit like electrostars.

 

actually: There is a bit of BLS for TSC!
-Re460/465 set by Trainworx with two BLS re465
-Simtrain EW III sets
-Simtrain Re465
and Simtrain is also working on the Lötschbergbahn with the RABe535 „Lötschberger“
But indeed, there is way more potential for the BLS locos!

 

Your forgetting that there are several UK loco dlc's that are from the BR era, class 20, class 31, class 40 etc.

 

For those trying to poo poo the idea of more classic traction, and when the there were more routes to drive too,(peep's forget there was actually more railway than present) but give it 10 years and they will see why we want more balance, because if the current balance of things is kept they are going to be on the other side of the fence crying that their golden age of what they thought made the railway great isn't represented, and how it's not fair to always do modern stuff.......

 

Thinking about it now. Isn’t DTG or a Partner working on some old time diesel UK route? That could be what’s coming for the UK. (All speculation of course)

 

Yes JustTrain with a pacer

 

Ah okay. Is there any information available yet on which route?

 

Check the route code and the screenshot. It's basically confirmed. Will probably also get announced during dtg direct

 

I'd never forget about those, all of them quality DLC too. Thing is, those three all came out way back in TSW2020.

Anyway, I feel I've said my piece for now. Let's get things back on topic!

I'm hoping to see a clip of JT's route in action during this Dovetail Direct. I'm really interested to see how the high quality of their TS Classic releases translates over into TSW

 

No, York to Newcastle is by far and away the dullest. Very few stations, and the first section is a mind numbingly dull straight line. King's Cross to Peterborough may have mediocre scenery (which as I mentioned previously, I couldn't give less of a damn about), but it has such a huge amount of variety, with lots of local, semi fast and express services. I fail to see how that isn't operationally interesting.

 

Newcastle to Berwick would be a good choice with a mix of fast running but some curved sections and nice scenery along the coast. A little bit of local traffic out to Alnmouth. A far nicer stretch to run 4472 on than Cross to The Posh.

 

The WCML Oxenholme to Penrith is the best of the Anglo Scottish routes.

 

Neither Oxenholme nor Penrith are in Scotland. Do you mean Carlisle to Glasgow?

 

MSTS…

 

The WCML north of Preston in general is the best Anglo Scottish route

 

The route would lose any value if it didn’t go to Edinburgh honestly. Can’t imagine only going to Berwick

 

Yes I was told already before but for example MML, you can't call that modern day? I always find it funny that the 43 is still called an HST.

 

I was recently on the ECML, went from King’s Cross to Edinburgh on an Azuma. I’ve got to say that the northern bits of the line were definitely more interesting visually. Driving directly along the coast and through Newcastle and Berwick on huge bridges and viaducts.

 

Oh I agree but just considering what is practical for a TSW route. Berwick to Edinburgh is also very nice but you don't have the local traffic that Newcastle to Morpeth and Alnmouth offers, well apart from the North Berwick branch.

Newcastle to Berwick was done very well in BVE a few years ago, well within the limits of that programme and was around 50 minutes none stop,

 

You'd might as well do Newcastle to Edinburgh in that case with a branch to North Berwick for ScotRail services

 

I'd say MML counts as modern era, both the 43 and 158 still run on our network. The 43's days are unfortunately numbered though, as TOCs are slowly withdrawing and replacing them with the 8XXs. It still is a HST as it can reach 125mph which is the fastest possible speed on the main UK network. HS1 is the only line that goes over 125mph, though I believe it's counted as part of the European network rather than the UK one due to the difference in signalling systems used along it.

 

The offtopic channel exists for a reason. That bears zero relevance.

 

Ok I'll put the message there.

 

125 mph (200 km/h) would still qualify as Schnellfahr even in Germany.

 

They might still be on our network, but the HST is from 1976, and the 158 is from 1989. They aren't modern by any sense of the word. They are both from the BR days.

 

Indeed they are, but MML as a TSW DLC is considered modern era. The DLC itself is not set in the 70's or 80's, therefore not a historical route.