Dovetail Direct Live Stream Reaction

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by simontreanor81, Aug 22, 2023.

  1. jhs#1408

    jhs#1408 Active Member

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    wait, in-game hud changed. no below speedmeter or some. finally not blocking control panel?
     
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  2. BeastyBill88

    BeastyBill88 Well-Known Member

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    Haha yeah probably, when all of that time and resource should have gone on more important things to tell you the truth.
     
  3. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    HUD look good. There's a progession marker with signals on upper right part
     
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  4. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    I'm feeling better than I did at the start. I understand there's more to reveal which may make me feel better.
     
  5. MaxBenchip

    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    The chat on the stream is chaotic
     
  6. royalscot#3684

    royalscot#3684 Well-Known Member

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    Summary:

    More short routes. No meaningful upgrades. No route editor. No new countries.

    Just give us more cash please so we can forget all the bugs in previous releases.
     
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  7. deeuu#6908

    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    The funny thing is, they'll all buy it, and then moan about it for the next 12 months.
     
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  8. 21c164fightercommand

    21c164fightercommand Well-Known Member

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    Seems like DTG is concentrating more and more on the consoles, those poor konsole kiddies who have no other choice to play with trains than by playing TSW ....
    Most have no reference, pocket money to burn and gobble up any DLC thrown at them?

    We'll have to wait and see whether that "Pause" feature actually works ...
    Were there any mentions of multiple Save slots?

    I am not going to bother myself with TSW4 until it is released and people start playing the newest incarnation.
    Based upon their findings, DTG's reaction and actual implementation of any fixes I'll add it to my wishlist, waiting for a nice X-mas discount.
     
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  9. matt0d

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    Player assist seems like a really great idea that's been well implemented, but why wouldn't you make that an update? Some people will have bought TSW3 and might boot it up occasionally, realise it's difficult and turn it off. No way are those people ever gonna consider buying TSW4 (or any DLC) or know that these hints are even a new feature
     
  10. j.elkroc

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    The HUD! Let me move it in TSW4 or no sale.
     
  11. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    The problem with this forum is a lot of people completely misunderstand their relationship with DTG. They are a business and you are a customer. You are NOT obligated to buy their products. But they are NOT obligated to give you things for free. Too many people on here think that they are entitled to free products and that DTG are wrong for trying to do what they exist to do. Make money.

    If you don’t wanna buy TSW4. Don’t.
     
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  12. jhs#1408

    jhs#1408 Active Member

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    Minimum HUD!!!!!!!!!!! Yheaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  13. junior hornet

    junior hornet Well-Known Member

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    Ee. I remember the good old days when we we argued over the correct spelling of Training Center/re. Such great memories.
     
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  14. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    My man, you are aware that a forum is for discussing the game and give feedback about it, right? That is exactly what is happening here.

    And don't worry, I will not buy this lame cashgrab.
     
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  15. neonym#9140

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    Funny is, that route editor and timetable editor can be good for fixing things they did not bother to fix (speedboards, misshing ohle, catenary collisions, etc.). These things are very easy to fix, but somebody must want to do it.
     
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  16. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    Least surprising thing of the day was the usual suspects on here throwing a tantrum.
     
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  17. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, impossible to follow - partly why I started this thread.
     
  18. west coastway trains

    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    Austria is literally included in one of the base routes
     
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  19. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for telling us for the 5/6th time that you will not be buying this product. We really needed to be told again.
     
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  20. deeuu#6908

    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    Feedback vs whining like a big baby because you didn't get what you want, for free.
     
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  21. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    Ok, HUD improvements seem nice. Might be the best thing so far.
     
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  22. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Well you told us to not buy it, so I replied I won't. You have a problem with people replying to you?
     
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  23. Features are always good, same with routes and locos, but I genuinely cant see why we have a TSW4.. Im not being facetious, Im genuinely puzzled. Unless there's some engine announcement its a bit head scratching..
     
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  24. eldomtom2

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    There is something deeply morally objectionable about them parading around basic accessibility features like fully rebindable keys as something you have to pay for.
     
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  25. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    The "DTG are a business so they can do what they like" argument only cuts so far.

    a) they're obviously inviting feedback
    b) if it was all about profit, then why not make a farming game with microtransactions for your phone? A niche game like TSW should be a labour of love, to some extent - it's an audience without many other options, and you can either see that as "these people will buy anything, we've got them over a barrell", or "we are The Train Sim People, so we have a responsibility do to it well"
     
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  26. squerble

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    Keyboard/rebinding is a welcome feature. For example the 377 ignored key changes you did in the menu for DSD, hope this will now be resolved.

    EDIT: Will it heck hahahah. Only for TSW4 content. What an absolute joke.
     
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  27. AtherianKing

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    A free 323 and 8F, finally something I can benefit from in a giveaway :D (the 323)
     
  28. MAX1319

    MAX1319 Well-Known Member

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    Wow the added the 323 and 8f into training center, we definitely need TSW4 for just that
     
  29. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    No. I have a problem with the usual suspects who spend all their time on this forum whining about everything.
     
  30. Yes, I think the implication is that TSW3 is now abandonware
     
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  31. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    no one has said that, that I’ve seen….
     
  32. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Go ahead then and pay for what is basically a glorified QoL patch, lol.
     
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  33. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    There's a problem that I see with ÖBB Baureihe 1116 is that Devs will simply clone the Rapid Transit 182 to make it and carry over AFB traction lock bug from the Dispolok Baureihe 182
     
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  34. NateDogg7a

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    What is still not clear, and is disconcerting, is how much of this will be TSW4 exclusive? Waiting to see if that is addressed in this stream.
     
  35. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    News flash: people can have opinions different from yours.
    News flash 2: these people will voice their opinions, just like you do yours.
     
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  36. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    It’s not that they can do what they like. It’s that you don’t have to buy their product. There are people in this thread right now who I remember losing their minds last year over TSW3 who said they weren’t going to buy it and they’re done with DTG. And here they are again.
     
  37. traindori

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    Popping around again. :|

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  38. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    I don't really mind the new version every year tbh - they come with 3 routes and the cost is usually commensurate with that, so it's not an issue.
     
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  39. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit confused about the reactions. A lot of stuff I asked was addressed. I'm actually very surprised so many boxes are being checked
     
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  40. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Man, remember on TSC when core updates are free along with the route bundles?

    Pepperidge Farm remembers..
     
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  41. squerble

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    They've already said that pretty much everything we've seen in the stream is TSW4 exclusive.
     
  42. Almost all of it from what Ive seen so far.
     
  43. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    only thing thats seeming left out is bug fixes I want to see addressed and I wasn’t expecting that in this. Overall they’ve added in quite a few things I’ve suggested on the forums.
     
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  44. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Paying customers keep complaining if you don't fix their issues and keep underdelivering. What a shocker!
     
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  45. simontreanor81

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    Haptic feedback I like
     
  46. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    If I wasn’t going to buy the new version of a product I probably wouldn’t waste my time on the forum dedicated to that specific product. I’d find something more productive to do with my time.
     
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  47. NateDogg7a

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    I guess I just wasn't clear on if that means exclusive to only TSW4 routes. I must have missed whatever was said. No doubt because I'm posting so much in the forums!
     
  48. Trainiac

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    A lot more has been refined and added than I was expecting, I’m not mad.
     
  49. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    So stop buying their products then. Simple. There are people on here who consistently whine about the game but continually keep buying DLC.
     
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  50. Dinosbacsi

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    Again, this is called feedback. It has been said over and over again that TSW has potential and could be a great product - which is why people here keep complaining. Because it could be so much better.
     
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