New Uk Routes By Dtg From Latest Roadmap Speculation Thread

Just writing this right after reading the roadmap but there are 2 dovetail uk routes coming in the next 4-6 months so I've started this thread so we can guess what it might be. So we can have on speculation thread focused on these two new dtg routes rather than 3 or 4 that are all the same so feel free to put your predictions below.

 

Well I wonder if at least one will feature West Midlands Railway or Nothern as they have those licences now and Manchester Piccadilly and New Street. Any more than that I wouldn't like to speculate. We haven't a Welsh route yet so that is a gap to be filled also the former Western region has been rather neglected.

 

You also have the Rivet routes as well.
Loads of potential UK content coming

 

Personally I think they’ll run with the modern highspeed theme for the UK. I’m wondering if Avanti will enter the TSW universe.

 

I’d like to see another country, but still within the uk……….Wales
Preferably, Cardiff to, well anywhere or at a push Swansea (grr) to Bristol, maybe.
Or could go the other way with Cardiff down to West Wales ?
Come on DTG visit Wales, it’s free to enter now lol

 

I'd love the South Wales Mainline Modern Day. Swansea to Bristol would be great.

 

Personally I hope these routes aren't both modern as I feel like we are getting to many modern routes. When we could get some older routes with more variety like routes that aren't in the south east as there have been 3 routes done down there which is slightly annoying. Also I hope these routes aren't 40 miles long as from what we've seen in the past couple of years it is to short for a prop start end route.

 

Still no news on any tech advances re: mergers or extensions so hard to predict whether these will relate to existing content or not.

 

One of the new routes could be a extension using the new flat crossing on the ECML.

 

Potentially could be looking at ECML extended down to KGX?

There are few things that potentially make this possible, firstly we know that extensions are a possibility if they are thought of in advance - let’s say that DTG have already rigged the launch ECML to work with the idea.

The next reason is they went to alot of work getting the AC sounds on the 700 from AP & implemented them, this is quite odd considering they didn’t need to approach AP since DTG still needed to come up with the DC soundset.

Then we consider the oddity of the section of ECML they’ve chosen for the launch version, they have at least some of KGX modelled & the area leaving it, plus this is one of the major lines in the UK and DTG haven’t put the terminus in - right now I wouldn’t be surprised if more than a few people didn’t get the significance of the ECML.

Making another part of the ECML sets us up for quite a few DLC bits, and after DTG really padding out SEHS in TSW 3, I think they may well set out to do the same for ECML.

Both routes would work well individually and considering they’d get released fairly closely, I think it’s very much fair game.

I’m not sure if it’s as likely as another route, but all things considered, I think it’s by far one of the most suitable candidates we have in the game for an extension.

 

I’d agree with this maybe Peterborough to Kings Cross with LNER Class 91s to link up the line throughout to Doncaster. I’d be more than happy to buy both to get it complete.

 

I'd love to see London Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour or Preston/Lancaster to Barrow-in-Furness.

 

Portsmouth Harbour as a historic emu route would be grand

 

I have a suspicion this may happen, if you look at the reveal for the ECML in the DTG direct you see ECML listed as a ‘Route extension’ this may of been a typo, but that to me suggests they were perhaps working on a much broader ECML scope and this part was the one finished first.

If what I’m saying is correct then we may get a route extension to the South or North. Fingers crossed.

Reference 3:22:07 from the direct if you pause it

 

London Underground

 

I would personally really like to see a GWE rebuild to include the main line from Paddington to Swindon, Didcot or Oxford and/or the branch lines between Paddington and Reading. However, I think that GWE will end up as the poor relation with no work done for a very long time despite it having so much potential if brought up to recent standards. It is a bit disheartening that SEHS has had so much love and attention, yet GWE and indeed ECW have had absolutely nothing. Even NTP and TVL could do with a rework.

Despite what I wish for, I think that the new routes could include more ECML or MML sections. Also, it could be something for the SWML.

Two other routes that I hope for are new. They are...

North Downs Line Reading to Redhill/Gatwick Airport which would link up GWE with BML.

Chiltern Mainline Marylebone to Banbury.

Time will tell.

 

Given we now have Posh to Donnie for the ECML, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar exercise for the WCML, maybe Rugby to Crewe which has been requested a few times.

I also have a gut feeling another steam route might be incoming, possibly Riviera Line from Exeter to Kingswear which is often requested. A Hall and a Pannier would be a Day One purchase for me on that one.

Whatever is in the pipeline I hope they are longer routes, the forthcoming release of the editors will leave talented individuals to cut their teeth on shorter projects.

 

My guess would be a WCML route, especially now we’ve got ECML - a Pendolino would really help fill all those empty stations too.

Would assume a new steam route at some point too though not sure of any particular one it could be.

Hoping one of those loco packs is the much request BR Green diesels for Peak Forest.

 

If so, I'd really like to see this as a transition era route reusing the Western and perhaps eventually introducing a Hymek or similar.

 

Any modern diesel route would be most welcome; we only have GWE and MML representing this segment so far. Something like the Harrogate loop or Fife Circle with a Class 170 would be my top picks.

 

Does WSR count as a modern diesel route? I believe that technically it is as it’s a diesel loco on a modern recreation of a real life route in tsw

 

We’re long overdue a modern UK diesel loco, time for the 68 to appear me thinks.

 

I’d take that, on the Chiltern, Fife Circle or TPE!

 

These might be Chiltern Main Line a requested TSC route with Class 68 possibly WCML North and Shap 193 miles Glasgow to Preston via Carlisle. On the TSC forums look for Class 86/87 guides on how to deal with Neutral Sections

 

Gonna be realistic here, we ain't getting massive routes most likely.

I think we will get a welsh route however that being:
Conwy Valley Line: Llandudno - Blaenua Festiong (sorry if I got that wrong?). Likely feature the 197 or 153/150. 30.8 miles so in the range and is a fairly scenic commuter route So I wouldnt be opposed to it.

And for the other one I think we might go up north for this on: My guess is Something coming out of leeds, I think the harrogate line set in the modern day is a good bet, between York and leeds also modern day. 39 miles so again good size and this one has a fair amount of variety. Would likely come with the northern 158 and 170 and LNER 800.

Rivet has one route and a few gameplay packs, I think we will get a single gameplay pack for the UK from rivet, I could see it be a backdate of Edinburgh to Glasgow utilizing the 314's and or going all the way back to BR.

As for rivets route I think its going to be another scottish one - But I think this one might be backdated. I think something like the kyle line or higland main line (north) backdated with 37's might be a likely possibility. But thats just my guess.

 

I highly doubt we will get a full CML route given we already have a large part of it with SEHS and DTG has said they want to step back from SEHS and that likely includes southeastern as a whole.

EDIT: You can tell I sleep basically never - I read chiltern as chatham haha.

And I think the entire Glasgow-Preston might be asking for a little too much.

 

chiltern mainline is from london to birmingham? not anywhere near sehs

 

oh my god.

I kid you not I read that as Chatham Main Line.

I am so sorry - Let me change that.

 

I hope the "ultra modern" term will be heard more when they announce UK routes. Looking forward for the Blackpool route but hoping also for more 800/700 and whatever else ultra modern stuff the UK has in store. Amaze me!

 

Technically yes but WSR is so vastly different to GWE and MML in terms of operations that I would categorise it as something else.

 

Id categorise it as well... what it is.

Heritage. Its clearly moreso a preserved everything and the experience is slow so it is suppose to be a heritage railway by definition I'd argue.

 

Personally for me... ehhh.

Ignoring what we have that gives us:
SWT/SWR route (which id love) with a 707 and or 701
LO route with a 710
GEML with 755

Just a few examples. I do like hyper modern experiences sometimes but personally the UK's modern trains are fairly boring.

 

So that's the ones I want. Would not know if they would be cool routes but if it's ultra modern I'm already intrigued

 

The majority of them are just built up surbuban experiences. Shepeton and hampton court lines for the 707 are fun but thats a little biased.GEML would probably be fun but yeah. LO is just accelerate. Stop. accelerate. Stop.accelerate. Stop.accelerate. Stop.accelerate. Stop.accelerate. Stop. loads of timeswith boring scenary IMO.

 

Maybe a Scottish or Welsh route??? Not really sure tbh. Still waiting on route codes.

 

aaaaaah damn. less intriguing

 

Ultra modern could also apply to TPE (if they can get the licence), Northern & TFW’s new CAF’s and various others.

The issue with ultra modern in the south is that you end up getting backed into a corner since it’s very short stop commuter focused.

 

How does it apply to TPE?

185's are quiet old. And 68's are ancient.

 

Maybe Wherry Lines.
Hugely popular on TSC and fits criteria for TSW

 

the 68s are very new

 

68's only started in 2014

 

68’s are the same age as 80x & 700’s. Mk5A’s are literally the UK’s most modern coaching stock.

They also employ IET’s.

As a TOC they have a very modern fleet barring the 185’s.

 

Jeez....


I just looked it up and I genuinely did NOT know that...

 

Are DTG teasing us or is this a honest mistake, because there is no part of the ECML in the game as of now (excluding Darlington and Leeds)

 

I agree. It's fine as it is. Doesn't need to go down to London or include any branches.

At least its not just A to B.

(I can't help but feel weirded out by that face.)

 

It would be better with branches or if it went to London though

 

Think extenstion was just a typo.

 

Yes the 68 looks ultra modern. Probably not if this train drives in your own country. But to me it looks very new.

 

We can hope I suppose.

 

I think because it’s spring it would be a new steam route in May like the others