Train Sim World 4 Route Prices Done By Length

For future routes, I think the price of the route should be done as 50p per mile + £5 for the loco. It would make the price more fair

 

So uhh... KWG would be the most expensive I belive at at 15+58 so... 73 pound for KWG. Actually SEHS might be more at: 20+44.5 so 64.5 quid. So yeah KWG would be the most expensive - Is this REALLY a good idea to make it more fair?

 

Route length doesn't reflect the amount of work necessary for building a route. Kassel-Würzburg is such a long route, because major parts of the route run in tunnels, which are easy and quick to built. Whilst other much shorter routes need a lot more work regarding scenery. For example Mountian routes are much harder to built, due to the high viewing distances and detailed landscape. Of course that doesn't mean, the developer actually puts the work needed in (looking at you Arosaline), but such pricing would end up in mostly flat and tunnel heavy routes being developed.
Of course it's sad to not get the quality you expect for the high price of TSW DLCs, but this is more an issue with QC and After Release Support, rather than route length.

 

Yeah. A good exmaple is BKL. DTG admitted that despite its length it was the hardest of the 3 TSW2 routes because of how much detail it had (yes, its tunnels but compare SKW and BKL with tunnels and you'll relize). Scenary is definetly more time consuming then length,

 

This suggestion would just be shooting yourself and everyone else who plays TSW in the foot, twice.

 

"Just a foot for now"

 

noooooooooooo!

Imagine how expensive it would be if we got the entire ecml! As it is routes like SEHS and KWG would be really expensive!!! This is not an option! I really hope dtg doesn't get any ideas from this thread...​

 

I genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not.

 

Yeahhhhhhh... no thank you

 

Not sarcasm. Just genuinely not liking this idea. And also genuinely not wanting dtg to follow through with this suggestion and make it a reality.

 

They won't. The higher the price the more unlikly it is that people will buy it. At the moment they're in a sweetspot, where they can make long routes but also many people can afford it. If they'd make the prices more dynamic, they wouldn't be able to make up the loses on the long routes with the shorter routes they release between them. Their current pricing makes very reliable and predictable income , which you'd want as a company.

 

Sometimes I wish we also had a downvote button. OP is quite ludicrous. It's a train sim, not a taxi ride. As stated a 20 mile urban route in London or Birmingham is going to be far harder to make than 60 miles of single track across the moors. Equally the cost of researching a 50 mile route radiating out from London is going to be much less than travelling and maybe staying overnight to research (say) a Strathclyde commuter line.

I agree there is scope for maybe some variation in price, perhaps if we get two all new trains with a route but even then bearing in mind we just had a price, someone that would just about pay £30 for a new route, confronted with £35 or £40 is just as likely to say, sod it wait for a sale,

 

I'd rather keep my feet, thank you.

 

Are you asking to be bankrupt?

 

Surely your downvote would be not replying to this thread instead of adding a message which sends it nearer the top of the subforum

 

Not really. It’s a daft idea and I needed to say that!

 

Ok thanks for the feedback

 

Of course, just screw over the US freight fan base due to the longer length of US freight routes.

No to this suggestion.

 

This thread wasn’t aimed at a specific player base, just a general suggestion

 

What about those big yards & sidings along the route, will those be charged seperately ?

I'd add to your suggestion that DTG should also consider pricing proportional to the gauge size !
Standard Gauge tracks at 50p per mile and narrow gauge at 30p per mile. However, if the narrow gauge track happens to use wooden sleepers then the price should depend on how rotten the sleepers are IRL !

Point to be noted - electrification ( 15kV or more ) will cost an extra 15p/mile & 10p/mile for systems operating on lesser voltages...
DC systems can have a fixed price of 7.5p/mile, but the players would have to pay separately for the extra rail in 4-rail DC systems.

From TSW-5 onwards, players that play with diesel locos. which don't comply with tier-4 emission standards will have to buy a subscription in lieu of the emission penalty.

And always remember -
1st SPAD - written warning
2nd SPAD - driver suspended for 1 week ( player can still use the livery editor in this case )
3rd SPAD - and the game is deleted from the player's library. They'll be further blacklisted from playing train simulation games depending upon the speed at which the SPAD occured !

Looking forward to having these implemented
Suggestions are welcome !

 

I think I'll say no to that. I've spent enough money on the games already and am NOT willing to lose it all.

 

You're bloody lucky I know you're being sarcastic!

 

Dont forget to make it so every cup of tea you drink is 1 pound and DTG installs spyware to make sure they know!

 

Absolutely nonsensical idea, tbqh

 

It’s not really ludicrous, just a suggestion. It’s not me trying to make us all bankrupt

ok

 

Think you’re flogging a dead horse, mate.

 

noted

 

Well unfortunately that is what you are suggesting, intentionally or not.

 

I mean if people wanna spend 80 quid on ECML that's their call.

 

No thanks, I do want ECML but I don't think I want it that much!

 

Then you'd be forcing everyone to or no route.

 

That would make a lot of routes way too expensive.

 

Bro it would be £45 for ecml no thanks

 

would still be nice to see prices different based on what you get in the dlc, rather than just the same with a few exceptions
not based on length though as that wouldn't work

 

Maybe keep the price setup as it is and give folk option to donate? Lol

 

oof

 

but remember you don't have to buy it

 

You do if you want it

 

I know I was making a joke its something him and other people say and it really annoys me.

 

If you read the context and the post itself you would realise that was, effectively, what i said.
The idea that route price should be determined by length would make a long ECML, to run with Tft's Example, £80.

That's a lot higher than £35.

They said "if someone wants to spend £80 that's their call" - in other words 'spend more than double what a DLC usually costs' - and if you don't want to pay that extortionate price, no route.

 

its a little thing called sarcasm

 

It's not a very good attempt. At all.

 

Sometimes I wish we also had the power to shut down farcical threads before they get started.

 

ok

 

I think its weird how prices flucate.

You have IOW2022 which is a literal BARGAIN
glossop which is alright
the majority of pre TSW3 routes at a fine price for hte majoirty of them
then post TSW3 routes which are EXTREMELY hit of miss and most often overpriced

ALbeit I know how much work goes into them but thats my view.

 

This is a terrible idea lol.

 

You cannot waste time in life

Just remember at the end of the day it's the decision of of DTG. Suggestions are not idea proposals. They're actually people expressing their opinion.

 

I wouldn't want to have to spend $80-$100 per DLC. I personally don't think DTG will do something like that. Life is about learning, growing, making memories and providing for families. So life is actually more important than people that don't believe in God don't realize but the people that do believe are much happier. "Money doesn't buy happiness" life on Earth doesn't last forever. Just remember people have their own opinions.........

 

...what.




I'm atheist born and raised but I still think life is important. That REALLY wasn't needed.

 

[EDIT - Jan - Antagonistic]