Train Sim World 4 - Vorarlberg Preview Q&a (september 1st)

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  1. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    A rash assumption obviously based on your own personal preferences?

    Actually, going by anecdotal evidence on the forum, AVL and the F125 are being eagerly anticipated by many US fans at least.
     
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  2. bobbobberdd

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    Doesn't the ÖBB use the Talent2? I'm just wondering, if DTG knows they don't have the right Sounds for the Talent1, why not recycle the Talent2 again? Maybe this time the Talent2 with 5 cars.
     
  3. padruig

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    Not sure if this is just me or the monitor I’m watching on, but I can’t see the PZB or Sifa lights actually lighting up.
     
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    Utterly flabbergasted that they haven't fixed the stuttering from TSW3.
     
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  5. 2martens

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    No, they don't. They use the Talent 1 extensively with Cityjet livery for regional and S-Bahn services. Seen around Innsbruck and Salzburg.
     
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  6. Trainiac

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    Were any questions from this thread answered?
     
  7. StormFront345

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    On the stream.
     
  8. Trainiac

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    I know they would've been answered on the stream but I didn't hear Alex read anything out that sounded like they’d come from here
     
  9. Inkar

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    Unless they changed something with TSW4, the answer to this is no. The game needs the listed MRCE 182 installed to activate the layer. Only then it could be able to substitute it with something else (like a different version of the 182).
     
  10. Inkar

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    I asked for a list of layers from other DLCs and I got a full detailed list in the article. Someone else asked for all DLC that adds layers to be installed for the preview, and they did it. Another user asked them to show us the list of timetable services and they did show us all of them (including layers from other DLCs).

    I know there are some questions in the thread unanswered. Some of them are not related to the route they were showing today, so it is somewhat understandable they did not answer them today, but they should take a look at the few questions related to the route that they did not answer and post the answers here in the forums.
     
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  11. bodensee#8535

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    The ÖBB has no talent 2. Only talent 1
     
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  12. bodensee#8535

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    It's not my own, more than 70% of the people don't like it because there are like 10 passenger trains a day and some cargo. That's all
     
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    Sorry to repeat myself - what’s your source on that?
     
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  14. Crosstie

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    Unless you have the evidence to back that up, you really shouldn't make such ill- considered statements.
     
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  15. solicitr

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    You do realize that a sound survey has to be done with the permission and active cooperation of the railway? It's not simply a matter of buying a ticket and turning on your phone camera.
     
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    1. I think there are 2. The one on the Germany-Austria border and one closer to Bludenz.

    2. The route only uses PZB as per reality.

    3. From what I remember being stated by Matt/DTG the only rolling stock that will feature the suspension physics on launch is the Training Center 323. If something else has been stated, please correct me and I will edit.
     
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  17. Javelin

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    What a silly comment '70% of people don't like it because there are like 10 passenger trains a day' the number of services have absolutely nothing to do with weather people like the train or not, I for one am looking forward to Antelope Valley.
     
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  18. meMC83

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    Me too. I like US passenger routes and the F125 looks stunning.
     
  19. OldVern

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    AV is the one I’m probably looking forward to the most and I live 6000 miles away!
     
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  20. chieflongshin

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    65% of people that post angry comments haven't watched or read delivered information that answers said question

    12% of cats play tsw2 using a raildriver

    92% of questions are not answered 8% of the time by 150% of 6% of cereal eating players

    100% of this post is nonsensical accuracy created by 1/5th of someone who is currently above the bodies quota of 80% water.
     
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  21. simpman

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    I asked a question about custom shortcuts because they said they were going to showcase the ease-of-use features. I guess I must have missed the 2 or so minutes they dedicated to new features. I was looking forward to seeing some of the new driver assists being shown off, but didn't see that. No showcase of the new controller features because performance would be even more shocking on console.

    So if the question is related to the new features they were supposedly showcasing today (remember that they cancelled a stream dedicated to them) and they didn't answer it, it isn't understandable to ignore it. It is like everything else they ignore -- they have no good answer.
     
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  22. theorganist

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    Where did you get those statistics from? Of all the forums I have ever frequented this seems to be the worse for "facts" made up to suit an argument!
     
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  23. Inkar

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    That question falls in the category of questions related to what they were showing today. There are some other questions that do not really belong here (like questions about AVL, the PC Editor or fixes for older content that is not related to this route at all).
     
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  24. Crosstie

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    Watch it, Whiskers. I paw a Raildriver and it's a purrfect way to play. And I know from purrsonal experience, it's way more than 12%.
     
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  25. bodensee#8535

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    So u want to tell me I'm stupid.. They could record the sound at a station or from the inside. Idc if they need to get a train at 2am or in the middle of the night. The last option for this would be the class 377 sound for the talent 1
     
  26. bodensee#8535

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    Yay another stream in 5minutes, that means again, talking random stuff, sell it, don't reply to comments
     
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  27. OldVern

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    Actually no it is very relevant stream, demonstrating the TSW4 route editor. Some of us would actually like to have a go at that, various factors permitting, so this is the first step to understanding the processes involved. User created routes may be the only way of getting some of the more obscure lines in the game.
     
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  28. bodensee#8535

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    DTG JD, next time give us the DB BR 463 in BWEGT livery. There u can go to Freiburg (Breisgau) and get all sounds. Not like in Austria where they have 0 trains.
     
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    Wow you are bitter! I mean, you could actually not watch it then it wouldn't affect you.

    I am interested to see the stream about the editor, although I doubt I will use it, unless to make timetables. Sadly I won't be in but will watch it when I get back.
     
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    What part of obb couldn't provide Dtg with a recording session for the 4024 do you not understand?!
     
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    That's not how it works. They can't just show up and grab sound. All of it is planned out and deals worked out. The issue with recording sounds from railfanning and inside the passenger area is the poor quality sound recordings which might not be able to be used. Using 377 sounds like you suggested earlier might have required specific permission from ap who own the sound recordings.
     
  32. bodensee#8535

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    I know that. But if they really want sound to the vehicle they should go somewhere where they have ebough vehicles
     
  33. Javelin

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    That's not how sound recording works, Dtg could go somewhere where there are 10,000 of the same vehicles but it would all count for nothing if the owner/operater won't let them take recordings.
     
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  34. bodensee#8535

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    I know that. But if u look at the Vorarlberg route. The ÖBB could not give them a train to record bcus they don't have any trains. They are overplanning the timetable for many years now. If one train brokes down many services will not be driven.
     
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    You do know that if there's a lot of trains, there would be even less of a chance a train will be available. Even busier timetable to run. Plus sound recordings gets much harder if multiple trains are leaving at once. Also requires permission from the toc to record and use the sounds commercially.
     
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  36. bodensee#8535

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    Why should it, much trains does not need to mean many are leaving. In middle Europe trains are leaving at the morning and go to sleep at night. So in the middle of the day there are just many trains standing (not in Austria)
     
  37. bodensee#8535

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    You can look at Freiburg (Breisgau) there are standing about 40 trains not moving, so where are your moving trains?
     
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    I feel a bit embarrassed at this point seeing how it’s the third time (maybe third time’s the charm?) - what’s your source on this?
     
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  39. bodensee#8535

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    Me as a person living at the border to Swiss, Austria and Bavaria can see this with my eyes. The only standing things on the tracks are Cargo trains. There are no trains because of the over planned timetables
     
  40. meMC83

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    Trains that are parked up and doing nothing are costing the operator money through lost revenue. Much better to fully utilise the fleet wherever possible, limiting down time to essential maintenance as required. A train will only be parked up if it’s not needed (E.g. quiet time of day), it’s broken down or getting maintenance.
     
  41. bodensee#8535

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    That's wrong, trains get parked somewhere so they are ready if one train brokes down or something. There are everytime trains standing in the middle of nowhere just for this things., but they are to much. For Germany I have a example. 4 trains in use 2 in the Workshop and 2 staying somewhere,
     
  42. bodensee#8535

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    And that is completely wrong, how u want to Be a r
    If u use all trains u have u would never get a route in Germany. You always need enough replacement trains when you apply for a route
     
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    Austrian signaling and safety systems are almost completely compatible with the German H/V system. The only addition is green over green (main signal) and yellow, green, green (advance signal) which indicate a 60kph speed restriction. Green over yellow (main signal) and yellow, yellow, green (advance signal) indicate a 40kph restriction.
     
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  44. bodensee#8535

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    ? This was random.
     
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    Just accept the simple fact that recording sounds is a complex task that requires a lot of planning. I mean you're free to go do it all yourself but nothing is ever easy and can't just be done on a whim.
     
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  46. bodensee#8535

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    I never said that, but trying to get recordings from a company that is struggling with trains is a bit stupid
     
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    I really don't care if they had or had not a chance to record the real sound. The fact is: Talent 1 does not sound like Talent 2. Everybody with ears should recognize this.
    Now the question could be: Do we have a train IN GAME ALREADY, that sounds similar enough to a Talent 1. I would answer with yes: The 377. Now given that, it should have been as difficult to implent this sound as it was to put the Talent 2 sound on the Talent 1. Or am I missing something.
     
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    What about all the other background noise that will drown out the recording?
    Because that'll sure make it better....
     
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    Where's your proof that obb are struggling with trains?

    How many trains a company has in their fleet has little to no bearing on weather they can allow Dtg to take audio recordings or not.
     
  50. bodensee#8535

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    Maybe u should live here, then u can say it for yourself.
     
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