Train Sim World 4 - Free Roam & Scenario Planner (september 18th)

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  1. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Yes, it has been built with the Add-ons Manager infrastructure built into it.
     
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  2. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

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    PC too then?
     
  3. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    yes, that's correct.
     
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  4. Thorman

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    Thank you for your answer that's good news!
     
  5. rshifflet#2142

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    i call this a session ... not a new service, just a run i want to drive now as a user.
    It really is needed to counter familiarity and boredom with straight-line routes.

    It is also needed when user in a station decides to drive a train in that station as their own run: a session, not a time-tabled service.
     
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  6. fre

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    Will there be a trophy for collecting the entire alphabet in theatre box (route) indications? :cool:
     
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  7. max#2873

    max#2873 Well-Known Member

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    On NYT these trains (AI) run with pantographs down, they seem not needing electricity ;)
     
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  8. AtherianKing

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    I’m a bit late so may not get asked but I have 2 questions on free roam

    1. What’s the spawn limit ? I’m assuming if you put a loco on every possible place it would be too much memory.

    2. can you have multiple stops queued up like a timetable and same goes for can you have multiple go via’s ?
     
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  9. steamylocoman

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    Spawn limit is 100
    And no you can only have 1 stop and maybe multi go via i think or just one
     
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  10. fakenham

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    Watching just now, I must say I'm mightily impressed with the free roam with timetable mode. It seems we can inject the randomisation factor into the sim at last. What really intrigues me is that, for example, we can do a new end to end run spawning in a new train, causing a bit of chaos/adverse signalling, then do the return trip in the same session with the disturbance of AI that occured during that one, leading to more potential delays/adverse signalling - and then do it all again! The dispatcher may fail from time to time, but who cares, at least we now have the option for random events (and we can delete AI if need be).
    Pretty cool! Game changer? I think so.
     
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  11. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    VOD here (will timestamp tomorrow). Lots of fun and frolics!
     
  12. Haribo112

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    I am very hyped for Free Roam after seeing this. I'm gonna start off with injecting an ICE into Vorarlberg, and after that go nuts on Riesa Dresden having all sorts of random movements cause maximum mayhem to the AI.
     
  13. garyjones#9324

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    I fear I am going to be disappointed with the improvements to scenario planner. I was really pleased to hear you could set the scenario start time but unfortunately not in the way I envisaged. In TSW3 I have produced many busy scenarios with many trains leaving 5 minutes apart along fast and slow lanes and the start time was, say, 12:00. If I wanted to run the same scenarios but say starting at 18:00 I had to make a copy of the scenario and then tediously edit every entry to start at the new times. If I then wanted to run the scenario at night I had to create another copy and edit it all over again.

    What I was expecting therefore in TSW4 was that you could specify a start time T and then all the other services were offset for that start time i.e. T+5, T+10, T+15, etc. Then all you had to do was specify the start time T, say 12:00 or 15:000 or 20:00 and hence only one version of each scenario would be required plus a start time. This would save me hours of having to produce copies of all the scenarios I have created just because I wanted to run the same scenarios but at different times.

    The new functionality in TSW4 is minimal to say the least in that I will still have to create copies of each scenario if I want to run them at a different times of the day but the only difference is that I can delay the start of the train I am driving so that a few AI trains might be running when I set off. Whilst this small change is welcome it really is disappointing that I will still have to create copies of all my scenarios and edit them. For me the TSW4 changes offer little improvement I’m afraid.

    If a new approach of start time plus offsets could be implemented it would make scenario planner a lot more useful and less frustrating.
     
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  14. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Interesting idea - i'll add it to the list for consideration.

    Matt.
     
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  15. AtherianKing

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    Yea I was impressed with what I can do with free roam tools, I definitely want to make some large stations like Dresden/Darlington etc get filled with some good fitting stock and see what screenshots I can make, and in October run a pacer alongside the timetable on Tees valley as a compromise to an actual service timetable with them.

    I would like to see multiple stops and multiple go via get added in the future (so I wouldn’t have to keep programming every time I reach the stopping along the way station stops) and options for load passengers, possibly even as far as setting up Ai trains pathing alongside.
     
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  16. garyjones#9324

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    Thank you
     
  17. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I will watch the stream but tomorrow as I chose the football tonight, does sound like a very worthwhile watch.
     
  18. junior hornet

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    As does Bristol City v Plymouth Argyle tomorrow night.
     
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  19. Yerolo

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    Enjoyed the free roam stream and there's definately alot of room there to play around with various things....however, personally for me I was hoping we could add passenger load instrutions when spawning a train in so we could just run a stopper service with any unit. I know Matt mentioned that it will be something they will be considering for future; but this is a big omission for me :(
     
  20. hyzwar

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    fresh air
     
  21. max#2873

    max#2873 Well-Known Member

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    Free camera spawn option is a MUST. I imagine creating us freight DPU train with 100 mixed cars and locos by walking camera takes an hours. It would even more reasonable to have this option on the map screen.
     
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  22. Kangaroo Conductor

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    Apperantly we are able to make a formation in formation designer and then spawn that in the free roam mode. So no need to do it manually and cuppling all cars together, you can do it in the formation editor instead and load it ready to go immediately.
     
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  23. hyzwar

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    But still the spawning part here and there around the map is by foot in such a scenario.
     
  24. Kangaroo Conductor

    Kangaroo Conductor Well-Known Member

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    Good point actually, I too want to fill up yards and not have to walk up to each track.

    Is free cam spawn not featured yet or just not shown in the stream ? Haven't seen it myself yet.
     
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  25. junior hornet

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    Can you spawn a train on the ‘wrong’ track (i.e.facing the wrong way) then drive head first into a train coming in the opposite direction (or stopped at a red signal because you are in their section)? As there will be no signals facing you, presumably you won’t get a red.
     
  26. Winzarten

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    One thing that I really like about the free roam feature is, how there are no artificial boundaries. It is fully embracing the sandbox aspect of sim, which was so far very limited in TSW.

    Spawn anything, anywhere. Go anywhere... inside the populated timetable. Can player mess-up the timetable and create congestion on junctions? Yes. What then? Nothing, just play the sandbox and despawn trains, it is your virtual railway in the end. :D Love it :)

    I haven't used scenario planner a lot, but I will definitely use the freeroam feature, because it allows me to have some sandobxy fun on a fully populated route, with minimal effort from my side.
     
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  27. max#2873

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    Formation editor is a case of (uncertain) future ;) , but agree when it (hopefully) come it will be the game changer for free roam. And why not to have spawn option on the map screen? Even better!
     
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  28. jackthom

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    Unless I’ve misunderstood, I was slightly disappointed that the option in Scenario Planner to decide which stations passenger AI trains will stop at seems to have been removed. This was useful for setting up an AI service ahead of the player train to generate a few adverse signals and make things more interesting.
    Fortunately for us PC players it will be reasonably straightforward to set up scenarios using the editor.
    On the plus side, free roam is looking like a great addition to the game.
     
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  29. The7Train

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    There seems to be conflicting info as to wether or not the editor will be apart of TSW4's early access, can any of the DTG staff members confirm?
     
  30. JustWentSouth

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    My years long quest for the Holy Grail of TSW Dispatcher Chaos is over!

    Events that used to take me hours of planning and setup can now be accompanied with just a few clicks. I am really looking forward to this.
     
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  31. Squonk

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    Seeing as how you can only spawn while on foot what I plan to do is whizz around the map in a couple of light loco's visiting all the yards and Sidings and spawn everything I want in them and save it as a kind of setting up operation before I settle down to play the map proper.
     
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  32. hyzwar

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    The possibility to spawn any rolling stock anywhere, then switch & build any train, drive this train, being dispatched via the chosen path (in a very intuitive manner). Sounds pretty amazing.
    Plus, like already mentioned in this topic:
    Just give us free camera spawn, on the map spawn & formation designer so it will be almost perfect addition to the game.
     
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  33. captaingunadeep

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    There should be a way to place wagons using 9 map. So that i can pick those wagons from that location with a light loco from other end or shunt them to other location. Now if you want to so. You have to be on foot to place them and then go to some other place and set up a loco.
     
  34. max#2873

    max#2873 Well-Known Member

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    HOWGH
     
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  35. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Nice to see we have Welsh people on the forum but what does that mean in English? ;);)
     
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    As a proud Welshman I’d like to translate for you, but I have no idea what it means ;)
     
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  38. applesnax#6064

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    During the holidays last year that's what I did with the holiday express route. I kept reloading that same save and wouldn't save anything else a good while.
     
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    If you don't know it, it can't be Welsh, maybe he's from Ely! ;)
     
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    Careful, you’ll start a riot ! ;)
     
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  41. matt#4801

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    Sorry, slap on the wrist given! ;)
     
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  42. MarkCovz4761

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    Why can't I play the game I pre ordered the deluxe edition when I go to click play nothing happens
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    It releases at different times for each timezone and the platform you're playing on.
     
  44. pascal.weick

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    Does anybody know i can open the menu for setting a path after i spawned a train? I'm on PS5 and tried everything but nothing works.
     
  45. DTG Matt

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    Dpad Left. I know, we did a great job telling everyone that in the game. Sorry. :)
     
  46. MarkCovz4761

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    I'm on now thanks
     
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    Thanks Matt. Great game, and i totally love the Spawn Function. It makes this Game so much better.
     
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    If I was playing a scenario on a loco hauled train, say a 8F, and I got to Minehead and needed to run round, would I be able to do this?
     
  49. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    In free roam? absolutely.

    Matt.
     
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    Being able to choose timetable by route numbers in free Roam Or Scenario planner with active AI Traffic would be so helpful.
     

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