Loco Ge Ac6000cw As An Addon

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by kingheet#4619, Sep 24, 2023.

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Should this be added on tsw4 ?

Poll closed Oct 1, 2023.
  1. Yes

    76.5%
  2. No

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  1. kingheet#4619

    kingheet#4619 New Member

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    MaxBenchip Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes it's sunday
     
  3. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    1. None in service are still rated at 6000hp, they have either been retired (CSX and Australia) or derated to 4400 (UP) making them identical in performance to an AC44.

    2. This is not the suggestion thread.
     
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    captaingunadeep Well-Known Member

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    They all look the same for me.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Only on a vintage route. They were all retired years ago.
     
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    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Union Pacific still has theirs, but like I stated earlier, they are derated to 4400.

    This photo was taken last year, and the 2nd unit is an AC6000CW.
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  8. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    All European trains look like boxes to me.
     
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  9. captaingunadeep

    captaingunadeep Well-Known Member

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    So? Whats the point? Just saying Can't differentiate between those GE locomotives. People are easily offended for literally everything.
     
  10. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Yet, you were the one who 1st decided to respond to this thread, so why are you in here if you dont care?
     
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  11. captaingunadeep

    captaingunadeep Well-Known Member

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    And that's none of your business unless I take your name or quote you in for an argument.

    That's my opinion of those locomotives.

    THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME!!!
     
  12. Blacknred81

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    Cool, whatever, they actually don't but you do you.
     
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  13. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    So you just closed your eyes and stuck a pin in a list of American locomotives and came up with the least-likely-to-be-built example.
    And then you decided to open a poll!?
    And posted it in the wrong sub-forum!?

    In the unlikely event that this obsolete loco ever gets built, where do you suggest we run it?
     
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  14. solicitr

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    I thought 6000s re-engined with FDLs (or GEVOs) were redesignated something like 6043 or 4360?
     
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    You are probably thinking of EMDs SD9043MAC?
     
  16. austinbrewer7868

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    Id love to gave these three:
    Ge b40-8
    HIGH NOSE GP30

    AC6000CW
     
  17. Is there a Dash 9 General Electric DC traction in TSW yet?

    Sand Patch has AC traction.

    I think you'll find that might be next.
     
  18. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    No no no, we are not allowed any more modern GE's cause "They all look the same"
     
  19. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Ah! Okay, remembered what I was thinking of. When GE built its first batch of 106 AC6000s for UP, the 7HDL engine wasn't ready yet so they were delivered with 4400-hp 7FDLs, together with a promise to swap out the prime movers later. UP designated these AC4460CW. In the event, after bad experiences with the full-on 6000s, UP declined to have the 4460s re-engined.

    In later years UP (and CSX) gave up on the HDL and had all their 6000s (and SD90MACs) downrated, but I don't know whether those got a designation change.
     
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    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Most if not all of UPs AC4460s are getting rebuilt into C44ACMs, though nothing is really changed externally.
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    Ah yes, the heady days of the " horsepower race ". I guess GE and EMD figured out that the hp of a single engine was limited in practice and settled on 4 -4.5k as the best they could do.

    I think one original AC6000 is in preservation somewhere. Whether it ever runs, I wouldn't know.
     
  22. kingheet#4619

    kingheet#4619 New Member

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    Well I am pretty new to this forum , So my bad I didn't know where to post.
     
  23. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    What's funny is neither one of them started that race, it was Morrison Knudsen that started it with their 5000hp MK5000C.
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    GE responded with the AC6000CW and EMD with the SD80MAC, SD89MAC, and SD90MAC.
     
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    Not to mention BHP set the world record with the longest and heaviest train with their 8 AC6000s.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct on that topic however the railroad magazine seem to only focus on General Electric and electromotive Diesel. For GE which is now Wabtec locomotives they offer AC6000CW successor model ES58Aci 5800-6000hp. Speaking of the ES58ACI some of the class one railroads can ordered that here in the United States like BNSF CSX UP and Norfolk Southern where it's capabilities are needed like Marias Pass over the Continental Divide and Rocky Mountains
     

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