What Route Would Everyone/you Would Make In The Editor

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  1. aaronthomas1a

    aaronthomas1a Active Member

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    Hi guys I was just wondering what routes you would make in the editor
    my top 3 are
    London to Bedford my local line
    North and West London Lines
    and Circle line

    Let me know what you would /like to make
     
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  2. mickelmickle

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    Stage 1 : Morecambe to Bare Lane, Stage 2 : Bare Lane to Lancaster, Stage 3 : Morecambe to Heysham Port
     
  3. ffabio89

    ffabio89 Well-Known Member

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    Firstly I'll make a fictional route to learning well the editor and then, my plan is building the Venice to Bologna route (Italy)
     
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  4. Matin_TSP

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    Lovely! Can't wait to drive on the bridge between Venezia and Mestre :)
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    My advice is to start with something short and simple, maybe even scale up a model or miniature railway plan.

    All the train sims suffer from the same syndrome - it is dead easy to get carried away laying mile after mile of track, but applying scenery and detail to that is another matter.

    There is an acrophyll tale from MSTS days, a chap who went by the nickname of "Going North" on UKTS forums (think he might have been called Rob Thorburn). He categorically stated he was going to reproduce the ECML with complete accuracy even down to all the non railway structures for a distance either side of the line. We are still waiting...

    I've got a couple of ideas on my shortlist and been planting Google markers on a couple of those that really interest me.

    My own personal thoughts are to do something totally obscure (lots of closed branch lines in Australia and New Zealand) and dress it up as a fictional UK or maybe German route. That way no one can nit pick (hopefully), you're unlikely to step on the toes of someone doing the same route and more to the point - any well known main line is potentially in someone's (DTG or otherwise) list to do as payware.
     
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  6. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, as a console user, I cannot access the editor, but if I could, I'd have a crack at the Stourbridge Town branch - for fun more than anything.

    Two stations, one small train - pretty much perfect.
     
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  7. paintbrushguy

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    Eventually I hope to get somewhere with a Sydney route. Hope being the keyword!
     
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  8. headder

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    I would probably build something short, about 10-20 km using german assets.
     
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  9. fceschmidt

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    I have something in mind, an approximately 20km section of a German railway line. Mostly single track, no difficult terrain, not too packed of a timetable, using existing rolling stock, and something where lots of reference material can easily be found.

    But before I do that I want to get my hands dirty building assets in Blender, already starting that endeavor. :cool:
     
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  10. GingerPitti

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    There' a branch line of about 14 km where I grew up in Germany, which has been shut down for a while now but was full of traffic in the 1960s. I'll try to reconstruct it the way it was - if I can collect enough historical data to do so accurately.
     
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  11. jackthom

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    I'd like to see a part of the Tyne Valley line, maybe just Wylam to Hexham to keep it relatively simple.
    That's going to be way beyond my "starter" skill level for the foreseeable future.
     
  12. Choo choo

    Choo choo Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know if there are any forums where people meet and work together on a route project? How did things work back on train sim classic?

    Maybe a list of external forums could be pinned to this "sub-forum", if there is one to be found.
     
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  13. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    I guess these days people would set up their own "by invitation" Discord or restricted Reddit/facebook group.
     
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  14. PeterNeutron

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    Whest Rhine Cologne to Koblenz connection to connect Mainz via Koblenz to Cologne and to Aachen. Then a further extension to Frankfurt Main via Airport. Thereafter Cologne to Düsseldorf extension, then Hamburg to Hannover. Then a extension from Würzburg-Kassel to Aschaffenburg to close the gap between those routes.

    But I guess none of this is going to happen like Munich, Rosenheim to Salzburg or many others.
     
  15. royalscot#3684

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    Trans-Siberian Railway from Moscow to Vladivostok....

    Just kidding - does anyone know what the maximum length of route will be? I'd love to do as much of the Midland and Great Northern Joint railway as possible, even if it just used modern bus station style platforms.
     
  16. trainsimplayer

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    Maximum length of a route would, realistically, be infinite.

    The only limits are your device.
     
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  17. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    And the time to build it.

    In Trainz Surveyor a 30 mile route done to modest freeware standards might take me around 8 weeks.

    In TSC you could probably double that.

    So lord knows how long that would take in TSW. But let’s say 20 weeks not allowing for any timeouts for 3D modelling. Plus variables how long each day you have or are prepared to spend working on the project before you get sick of the sight of it.

    So a 200 mile or thereabouts route could well take over two years for someone at the hobby level to build, by which time the game will have moved on a couple of versions.
     
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  18. Spygot

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    I don't think I would start a route all by myself but rather search for a group of people that are interested in a certain route. There are more than enough possible routes, but since payware developers are also looking for them I would exclude many of the popular main lines in Germany, the UK and the US. Personally, I would maybe go for a smaller German route with easy terrain and a small amount of buildings (like Husum - Jübek for a start) or - if enough people want to work on it - a main line in a northern EU country (Sweden would be optimal as there are few towns and beautiful landscapes along most lines).
    However, before I can accomplish any of this I have to learn 3D-modelling and the editor itself so that I could provide something to the team.
     
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  19. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to make a beamng style route with loopings, long straight tracks for speed tests, extremely tilted tracks and other absurd stuff

    if I only had the skillset...
     
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  20. Rudolf

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    I definitely do not think about creating routes. I will try scenarios and maybe some assets (simple ones).
     
  21. DonnyDave

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    I'd like to do some fictional routes to learn the tools then move onto Doncaster to Sheffield, some of the Hope Valley route and Grantham to Skegness
     
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  22. atomicdanny

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    My personal opinion would be to try the tools first on something fictional, that way you can see how they work (that's what i did long ago originally on TS1, and also when i got to try Unreal Tools for the first time - don't plan big things when you don't know how things work :), always start small - that way there is less chance of being put off.
     
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  23. DonnyDave

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    totally agree with learning the tools first, I've been learning unreal engine 5.2 and 5.3 for the past month and Wow theres a lot to it
     
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  24. GarethDavies21

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    I will personally be starting with the basics. Creating either my home branch of Braintree - Braintree freeport or Seascale to Sellafield... Not sure what I will do first but even maybe just a play around with track :)
     
  25. OldVern

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    Absolutely Danny. I've been grabbing data for various routes I would like, just found a way to grab Norway DTM (I think it works by sending an email link), but before committing to something like my Sulitjelma line from Trainz and TSC I just want to plod around with a simple model plan, get the hang of track laying, sculpting terrain by hand, terrain painting and all important setting up signalling, speed limits and level crossings etc.
     
  26. Trainiac

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    If I had a PC, the knowledge, the time, energy and experience I would make the Manchester Metrolink. But that's never gonna happen so I can only dream.
     
  27. pessitheghost

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    I might try to dab in building sections of the underground, maybe a Victoria line ?
     
  28. fizpix

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    If I can upgrade my specs high enough, I would love to make either Asheville, NC to Old Fort, NC or Knoxville, TN to Johnson City, TN.
     
  29. Spikee1975

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    I wouldn't underestimate the amount of time it takes to first learn the editor, and then actually recreating an existing route on your own.

    One of the finest Workshop routes for TSC, the New York Division - Bergen County Line took six manyears to develop.
     
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  30. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    If I ever touch the editor to make a route, it would be maybe a simple industrial style shelf layout for switching and stuff.

    Then maybe later try and make The Salt Lake Route than MR made years ago.
    MRRC0110_503c.jpg
    mrr-c0110_a_plan.jpg

    Though I think I'm more interested in trying to make timetables 1st.
     
  31. fanethefox

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    I would love to try to make the PATH that runs between NJ and NY and or the NJ Transit Hudson Bergen Light Rail
     
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  32. gee

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    WCML Over Shap :)
     
  33. OldVern

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    All I can say is, based on my first days experience with the editor, everyone needs to wind their expectations in, right in. This is not going to be at all easy, it’s like doing basic maths at CSE then being given an exam paper on calculus.

    What it has done is give me a new respect for those who have built the routes we’ve seen so far in TSW. How the hell did they manage it with this tool?! Certainly tempers the moaning about why such and such route didn’t go further. I’m already reining in my ambitions and going to see if I can just lay down a basic model railway style route today, no frills just a continuous run with a junction and couple of branch spurs. No DEM, no LiDAR, no kml markers just to see if I’ve actually got what it takes as I have to admit to being quite lost at present. Even the old half finished MSTS editor was more intuitive!
     
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  34. DonnyDave

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    I finally decided i'm gonna do Conisbrough to Mexborough track route its part of the main route I want to work on first but get my own assets if possible only problem I've got is importing the terrain data for it. getting the track laid isn't a problem as I can use my google api satellite view for that
     
  35. OlaHaldor

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    I'm looking to do a short test first. Eventually it's a small part of the Dovre line from Oslo to Trondheim in Norway. Should get you about 40-60 minutes worth of distance in the end.
     
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  36. KrisKol

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    Sydney does Interest me.
    And whats more exciting about it, is that NSW is VERY open with their Data.
    LiDAR for nearly the whole state, Sydney Trains have all their Signal, track diagrams, Curves and Gradients etc, all available online.
    Schematics of the as-built harbour bridge and other Iconic stuff are even available.

    I have also have an AutoCAD schematic of a Tangara EMU. And I also found the rest of them as well.

    As for Anything from Victoria, trying to get any train scematics, or Even LiDAR Data...

    You would get a visit from grey aliens faster than you would find any of that info. Even WA and QLD are more open than I thought. I have a source for the info now.
     
  37. Spikee1975

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    The full Trans Siberian Railway ;)
     
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  38. driverwoods#1787

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    Raritan Valley Line with a Team of course. Once the editor does come in to the Microsoft store version of the game for the PC since your Xbox license works for it.
     
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    Well send and I am wondering if you can do one of my proposals the Mandurah Line and Transperth A-C series EMU. Speaking of Wellard Railway Station one of the buildings there is actually a woolies
     
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  40. KrisKol

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    There is a Whole Book, which I have that has the Schematics of EVERY damn train that Existed in WA.
    even the A's and B's !! Its not Digital, so I need to scan it.

    But since my Scanner is one of those dumb Cannon Multifunction jobs, It decides that if you are out of an Ink colour, It wont let you even scan a document.
     
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  41. KrisKol

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    Which I happen not to like. Because there are some pretty toxic people on it.
     
  42. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Agreed! Was just saying it’s the way things go now it’s much harder to set up a forum somewhere free of charge.
     
  43. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see someone have a crack at the long extinct branch lines from West Drayton on the GWML to both Staines West and Uxbridge Vine Street set around 1960 with period appropriate dmus and steam.
    Also the extinct branch from Southall to Brentford Docks set pre WW2. I highly doubt any established developer will attempt these lines.
     
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    I think I would like to have a crack at this and run reskinned 1938 stock (if that's possible) on it.
    (Mind you it would probably be on the ground rather than on a pier).
    SPier1.jpg SPierPlan.png
     
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    Matt himself spoke in the demonstration of the editor’s PC that the route can be 700 miles, and then this is not the limit, but everything will rest at the size of the hard drive. Well, RAM may be required for 64 GB.
     
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    It would be interesting to see the routes of China(the same Maglev in a greater detail of the environment), Japan, India, Korea and the Russian.
     
  47. LiftInspector

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    Here are my routes I would love to recreate if I'm able to:
    Leeds-Bradford F Sq, Ilkley and Skipton
    Settle-Carlisle
    Leeds-York via Harrogate
    Leeds-York via Garforth
    Leeds-Doncaster

    Those are just a few, but as I'm based in Leeds, I'd start local and branch out.
     
  48. BaleineSSJ

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    If the goal is going small, an idea would be to do the Vatican Railway.

    Quite small, albeit with lots of details (but this can be handled afterwards).

    It was just an idea I got when OldVern said to start small, but I'm just giving away the idea
     
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  49. ffabio89

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    Nice idea!
     
  50. alfielegend#4097

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    I'd love to see someone do the Bluebell Railway set during the Flying Scotsman Gala they had in August this year that I was at, 11 miles and 4 stations mostly on a hill and are the last remnants of the Lewes to East Grinstead branchline
     

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