Xbox Why Is Tsw4 So Bad On Old Gen Consoles??!

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  1. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    This is quite insensitive considering the state of the economy right now
     
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  2. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    Yes, factual statements in general are "insensitive" nowadays, especially in this forum.
     
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  3. Double Yellow

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    It was insensitive of me to quote facts. Must not hurt anyone’s feelings now lol.
     
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    Looks almost like the same situation Cyberpunk 2077 went through with releasing it on older gen consoles. Gets to a stage where it maybe should not have released on a generation.
    DTG should move forwards, convert to UE5 and 9th Gen and PC only next year, actually take a decent leap forward. Disadvantage would be possibility of losing older DLC that would just not work at all.
     
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  5. Double Yellow

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    I totally agree with this. I doubt DTG would convert to UE5, not for another few years at least. I’d love to be wrong though. That Matrix demo was pure eye candy.
    It’s not just Train Sim, it’s every game. Developers are still catering for 8th Gen. 9th released almost 2 years ago. All 8th gen is doing is holding back 9th gen games development.
     
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  6. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    It is plain insensitive. Not every single person can afford to be spending almost £500 on a console. Who are we to judge. Yes blah blah power whatever. But there needs to be a basic level of optimisation to keep it as useable as possible. Or an option to toggle certain layers in routes
     
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  7. Double Yellow

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    Then why do people come into a forum complaining about hardware issues affecting their game, when they know it’s because they’re using hardware designed back in 2016 (like I said in my previous comment). You said the economy is bad, yet we don’t know that the person is from the UK?
    Again, it’s easy to save money for something you want or am I being insensitive for saying that too?
     
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  8. pessitheghost

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    It is but you have to realise it’s a hobby mate not a requirement
     
  9. Double Yellow

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    This game is an expensive hobby I agree. Trains are the game though, and I would want them to perform and look the best they possibly could.
     
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    No it isn't. Do you realise how privileged you are, to be able to game, at all? You can snag a used series s for 100 bucks, if you can't afford that, you have bigger issues than blurry gauges in a train simulator, and should maybe get a job instead of playing train simulators 24/7
    Exactly, it is not a human right to play modern games on a decade old console.
     
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    This is going to end predictably.

    I do agree with people’s expectations needing to be more inline with their hardware, but that’s where I’d stop, no need to be telling people to save up & that it’s easy to do so etc.

    Not really warranted, getting into people’s personal circumstances.
     
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  12. Omnicitywife

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    Clearly, there is a need for just that, we wouldn't be here otherwise.
     
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    Umm, the WHAT?
    :o
     
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    Even Phil Spencer would agree with you.
     
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  15. Double Yellow

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    Question: Are you American?

    You understand the term Fxx (cigarette) in the United Kingdom? Doesn’t have the same meaning in the states. It means cigarette here. I’ll correct that error since I don’t want to upset no one. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
     
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    So are you assuming people that can't get a Gen 9 console smoke and drink?
     
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    Maybe. It’s just an example. I mean what else does a persons spare cash go on?
     
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    Tell that to a 8 year old

    And this is why you should never assume about someone personal circumstances.

    I think dtg should either make this game work on the Gen 8 hardware or drop support. If a company is going to sell a game on a particular console, then the developer should make it work and a customer has every right to expect it to work. If they can't, then don't release the product on said hardware
     
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    There’s a lot of guff being posted in this topic… so I hope OP sees my response.

    What is happening in your pictures is nothing to do with DTG or even the specs of your console.

    what you are seeing is a classic Unreal 4 issue that affects every UE4 game ever made. - slow texture streaming - you can see it on even AAA games using UE4.

    The most likely cause (but I cannot say the definitive cause) of this in your situation will be running the game from a slow hard drive that is past its best.

    a simple cheap solution could be to buy a cheap portable solid state drive (SSD) connected through the USB3 socket, and install the game there… you’d need to make sure both your console model has USB3 and the drive you buy has USB3

    The other likely cause, depending on age of your console is overheating caused by dirt build up and dry thermal paste on the CPU… and big clue for this will be how loud your fans are while playing the game. There is independent tech guys about who do that stuff if you are not confident of tackling it yourself.

    you’d need to weigh up if you think either of those is likely, against the cost of solutions, because frankly going down the route of trying both fixes would put you near half the cost of a series S.
     
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  20. Double Yellow

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    Come on, that’s silly. The person who I originally responded to isn’t 8 years old lol.

    The best thing for DTG is drop 8th gen all together, hopefully this will be the case when TSW5 releases. DTG are only going to cause more problems for themselves.
    The devs time is wasted on downgrading and optimising for 8th gen, when it could be put to better use.
     
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  21. DTG JD

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    Right. Another thread with a good subject matter has descended into squabbling. Apologies, but I'm locking this.

    There are limitations to older consoles, but 'upgrade and don't buy XYZ so you can afford it', is not a constructive response. People are having to prioritise things in difficult financial conditions at the moment, so it's not helpful.

    We also have to consider that 8th-gen consoles in some cases are nearly 10 years old at this stage, so they will provide a challenge to develop content for, and you will likely get a different experience. We're trying our best to ensure that the experience in our games are as good as we can make it.

    TSW Nathan - please check WillStanier's response, as it provides some possible workarounds for you.
     
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