Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - October 2023

As long they don't change the roller coaster feeling on MSB its fine. I love MSB for the cam shaking. I think in RL you would fell of your seat on that Route.

 

Is the Gangway connection between the wagons on the Class 801 also connected or does it still has the graphical bug like on the Class 395?

 

I ain’t sure, but I’ve heard the update to fix the 801 gangway stuff hasn’t gone out yet.

i tried to have a look but crashed to Xbox home page each time I tried to get in a route.

 

Earlier JD said the update was still going through certification for consoles. I also heard that the gangway problem hadn't actually been fixed on PC so the ticket has been re-opened and is under more investigation

Update: ps4 now has the patch

 

Anyone knows if this new German route will be a TSW4 Starter Pack?

 

On PS5 it's still not fixed, it still has the same non connected wires and non connected gangway

 

No mention

 

Ok, thanks, let's wait and see then, maybe it will be announced closer to route release.

 

I find Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg a terrible choice.

 

Which one is better to feature 642. What they what they should have done is actually bring a requested TSC route that has it Höllentalbahn Freiburg im Breisgau Singen Maggi Werk. Bonus the ability to play a tram on that route. Here's matt playing a tram

 

Why?
Asking just out of curiosity.

 

Is Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg the full length of the Mainthalbahn or are there some stations missing?

 

Yep Höllenthalbahn would be a really nice route, even suggested it a couple years ago

 

Because I am a fan of the main routes with many different types of services (Rb, RE, IC, ICE, EC, freight), such as Munich-Augsburg, just to name one. With this choice they only satisfy a very limited part of the public, in my opinion. With (for example) a Mannheim-Karlsruhe (about 60 km) they would have satisfied many more people, also because we would have had the opportunity to use many of the trains we already have, offering a very varied and diversified range of services ranging from very short-distance trains with all stops up to high speed international trains. Considering the limited number of annual releases per country, this is a missed opportunity for me. I certainly won't purchase this new route to collect the DB BR 642 to run on the other routes. I understand the market strategy but I don't feel like sharing and supporting it.

 

What kind of devious “market strategy” is on your mind? I guess they just built a single track diesel line because the only German option for that in game right now is niddertalbahn, which is set in the past. There are plenty of modern electrified main lines out there to play already, or at least more than anything else
I do support this “strategy” as you call it, because it creates some variation in the dlc library.

 

It's all about variety rather than just doing one type of route. The railroad isn't all mainlines and electric trains. With almost no diesel units in germany and very few non mainlines, this route is perfect for that. I wouldn't call it a missed opportunity

 

So excited about the new German route! I have been really enjoying Main Spessart Bahn the last few months.

Love having a single track route. Hope we can see a single track US freight route sometime too that isn't a mountain pass lol!!

 

Usual question: TSG 420 & Ludmilla when? This might sell TSW4 for me, guess it'll be around TSW5 release next year September?

 

Maik said when it's ready lol

 

Quality needs time

 

Hi Maik, which add-on you still realizing? The 420 and the Ludmilla? Or you have something other just in developing and I missed it?

 

Read above. They are both being released when they are ready. They haven't been abandoned. 420 first.

 

I believe the HMA route needs an optimisation pass by DTG before the 420 can be released.

If so that puts the 420 a good bit out.

 

I think the 420 is sort of ready just HMA needing an update first

 

What is Ludmilla?

 

This beast right here:

The mighty DB BR 232

 

Now there's a real locomotive. Bring her on Maik!

Does she have a route to run on?

 

Original plan when it was announced in tsw2 was rsn.

 

I wonder if the route to which DB BR232 will be linked will be changed. At the time this loco will be released RSN will be pretty much obsolete (if not already).

 

I'd personally argue that RSN still has untapped potential with all of the local freight sidings.

Sure, it's a legacy route at this stage but I'd never call it obsolete. Its a gold standard route of mine.

 

Try to look at it from the perspective of a new player, the one that's just started playing TSW4.

Now, in - let's say 6 months - DB BR 232 is released and linked to RSN. This new guy (or gal) would have to buy route which differs quite a lot, mostly visually, from the other TSW4 routes and hence I wonder if it will be linked to something more up-to-date.

I'm not saying RSN is good or bad, I don't own the route myself, but personally I'm reluctant to ride any pre-ToD4 route and it might be also the case for people who have just started with TSW from it's latest release.

 

It is no wonder it takes ages to make Ludmilla if it started as a TSW2 loco! Presumably it had to be re-done as a TSW3 loco and now as a TSW4 loco? Will it have suspension etc? Its a constant moving feast. We saw at launch that the Vectron originally started as a TSW3 loco but it was scrapped and moved over to TSW4. What a waste of time and resources.

 

That's not the reasons why the 232 and others are delayed that much. Yes, we need to apply to some changes when TSW versions do change, but it's not a huge amount of extra work. I'm working on it to speed up production but it is complicated and a slow process.

 

I would say the 232 should release on RSN. Dresden would be good but I think being overused and resulting in it becoming standard/repetitive rather than really interesting ultimately.

I would consider a potential future German route as a candidate also but would need to be really appropriate/brilliant candidate, and the 232 is probably more likely to be released first.

Dresden is a great route but I’ve played it many times and it now even has the 193 attached, I personally would like the change from putting maximum focus on it, onto another route.

Besides substituting will most likely if not guaranteed to occur for it on other routes like Dresden, and RSN as currently planned will be ultimately only where the layers with service pattern focus and developer created scenarios take place, not as though the 232 can’t be used on anything but RSN is my position on it.

 

Although RSN already has 155 and 363 as loco dlc’s

 

The 232 belongs more to a route located within the eastern part of germany as long it's not set into a ultra modern timeframe. Maybe it comes with a totally new, not yet announced, route. Who knows.

I bet we will probably see TSW 5 before a 232 anyways.

 

Yes but dlcs released a really long time ago, 155 has its similarities quite a bit but 363 is unlike the 232 on a lot more areas whereas the 193 on Dresden was also just released the other week, and RSN remains under utilised compared to the common put in on Dresden. Dresden already has more to do (also got 101 and 406 ICE standing in for the ICE T as layers) not to mention if they do the ICE T that would probably be for Dresden.

Dresden also came with a 363 and about 5 other locos so it’s got quite a stock count itself.

I think theirs more than one area to consider on this, looking at it by one and it looks quite equal, bring in the others and it’s a different story.

 

True, but I don’t totally agree. Not only did the 232 spread throught all of Germany, she quickly became a mainstay in the heavily industrial Ruhr area after unification. She’d feel right at home there.

 

Ohh, didn't know she was so much used in the Ruhr Areas as well after the German re- unification.

RSN is a really nice route, but it feels so much outdated driving it nowdays compared with newer routes, unfortunately.

 

While RSN does feel dated nowadays, it - along with several other 'Classic' TSW routes - still have a unique charm and feel much more interesting overall than many of the newer routes. However, saying that, one of the things that older routes like RSN etc vitally need is a timetable update, so the likes of Hagen would be busier.