Feature Improvement Suggestion For Older Routes

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  1. kosti.nuuja

    kosti.nuuja Well-Known Member

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    Over the past years TSW has evolved significantly. New routes have realistic lighting and super realistic clouds and fog. TSW2020 and TSW2 routes have unfortunately been left behind and look exactly same what they looked when they were released. In addition, routes like MSB and RT still feature low-quality rolling stock (for example DB BR 146, DB BR 182 and DB BR 442), although there is newer, better versions of exactly same rolling stock. My suggestion is that TSW2020 and TSW2 routes will get the new time of day system and all old low-quality versions of rolling stock will be completely replaced with newer ones.
     
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  2. Fawx

    Fawx Well-Known Member

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    Certainly agree, especially with regards to rolling stock. I really struggle to play some of the older locos/routes due to this.
    Look at the headlights of the old ICE 3 for example, they look like stickers on a model.
     
  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    The new lighting still isn't great lol. It makes things look overexposed and night lighting is too dark for me. There's about 50 dlc that need to be updated manually. Some of the low quality stock, especially the 1442 in rapid transit is not just a simple update; it requires the entire thing to be rebuilt from the ground up. I think the only way this could get upgraded is if we saw a paid dlc that uses the specific talent 2 and just remake it.
     
  4. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    I really wonder why DTG abandons routes after they launched them. But on the other side also sell them for the same prices as for new routes.

    The only and quite obvious reason is that it is too cost-efficient to upgrade an old route for them paired with a good lack of responsibilty and loyality to your costumers to be honest.
     
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    i played csx hh in tsw 4.
    lighting was dull.
     
  6. Trainiac

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    I would like this to happen but I think it's unlikely unless there's a project coming that's related to them. If there was a dlc comeimg like the Vectron for Dresden them I'm sure they would make the necessary upgrades, otherwise it just wouldn't happen unfortunately.

    Matt said it one of the recent charity streams that upgrading a route to the TOD 4 takes like a month so doing every route would be over a year of converting.
     
  7. Steuerwagen

    Steuerwagen Well-Known Member

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    hopefully gwe gets some love soon, especially with its trains & timetable.
    would be nice to see a the reverser to actual say forward one day on the model. luckily it still goes forward when in position
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    Reverse, engine only and another reverse?
     
  8. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly it's been over 5 years I think all hope for GWE is lost at this point.
     
  9. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    It's because it doesn't bring them new money in. They did the new DRA upgrade only because of the Vectron, which again was used as a big sell point for TSW4. Caring about their old content is against their business model to get more dollars in.

    But they never actually thought about the possibility that if they would upgrade the older routes, more people would buy them.

    It depends on what the priorities in your company are. If DTG would care about to enhance their old routes, they would set aims for it and hire more employees to get them. They could upgrade a single route within a few days, but this requires that you want to do so.
     
  10. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Dtg can't just hire more employees. There has to be enough applicants too who fit the requirements. Also there's a limit to how many they can hire due to limited space or maybe even the cost because every employee needs money. But it's not as simple as grab people
     
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    By the time TSW8 launches on UE5, many of the legacy routes will look like relics of past.
    Many of the TSW2020 dlc routes are affected the worst. The lightening is really showing its age now.
    It would be nice if DTG would make small upgrades to each legacy routes, but I can’t see it happening. Why waste their resources on doing that, when they could be developing new routes and content.
    I wish these beta testers with UE experience could work on these improvements. If it was an outside project that isn’t going to affect DTG schedule on releasing new content, then it could be a possibility.
     
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  12. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    For sure there are enough qualified people in game design and/or experience with UE out there, desperately looking for a job or at least a partly income.

    While some things in designing a game need to be done in an office, especially game design is a job which can be done from home, if you have the necessary requirements at equipment ready. There are highend workstation PCs and laptops designed nowadays to focus on CAD or game design and give the ability that game designer can go forward with their projects at almost any place with a power socket. For installed applications you don't even always need an active internet connection.


    Where does the money of from us all for acquiring these fency DLCs and annual updates go to? And TSW is also not as niche as many here think anymore to justify a kind of "less costumer - one needs to pay more" thinking.

    I just looked up on Wikipedia and it says they have 200+ employees engaged, however I can not believe that it really needs that much people to delevopem, commercialize and maintain a game like this. Look at all the indie developer game companies consisting of only a few people and everything runs fine with the (in comparison to TSW) small sales they have. And with the slow (to no) developement of some aspects in the game, I can't imagine that only 20% of said employees are actual game developers, bringing the actual game forward.

    If they really have this amount of people in their company to justify the sale income, then there's something going very wrong with the economic but also logical thinking of that company.

    And if this is not the case, I would say the following:

    We're not even at the stage to fund the college for Matt's childrens anymore and I wouldn't really be surprised if he wents to the office every day with suit and tie in his brand new Rolls-Royce and just goes into Nerd-mode when he is in front of the camera to pretend living in a 1 room flat.

    I didn't say it would be simple, but to hire and "train" (pun intended) more people for developing the game, would significantly speed up the progress of the core game itself. And therefore maybe even would attract more costumers to buy (or in the DTG kind of sense) keep buying it.
     
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  13. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Well 200 people is everyone. Dtg isn't only working on tsw. They also have tsc (not creating routes and most moved to tsw), catan, fishing (idk if they're still continuing with the franchise) and possibly other unannounced projects. Plus not everyone is a game developer. There are other roles outside of that.
     
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    Of those 200 it seems many are in marketing and PR, rather programming and artistry.
     

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