Missing Warning Lights On The Vectron

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  1. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

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    When I took a closer look at the vectron, I noticed a button with the name "warning lights". But when I pressed it, nothing happened. Maybe someone knows something about it.
     
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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yes we know it doesnt work they tried it in the preview stream
     
  3. F-Block

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    They aren't simulated because in all countries in which we can use the Vectron in TSW 4 that feature is locked in software irl
     
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  4. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    Foob?
     
  5. steamylocoman

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    yes
     
  6. Myron

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    yes
     
  7. steamylocoman

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    Yes it is F-Block is Foob
     
  8. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I know duh I saw that name on github
    upload_2023-10-15_16-45-52.png
     
  9. steamylocoman

    steamylocoman Well-Known Member

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    Then why did you make it sound like an question?
     
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    I didn't know he was around here, sorry if I disturbed you with that ;)
     
  11. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

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    It is locked?? Never seen a vectron that is locked. Everyone I saw can do it. SBB, Flix, Railpool. TXL
     
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    why would a Vectron be locked?? it's just the hazard lights duh
     
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    *disappears*
     
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  14. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

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    The hazard lights aren't locked. I saw many vectrons having them on.
     
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    bro why are you sliding from TSW to IRL
     
  16. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

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    Because TSW is RL built in A virtual world. Idk how to say it Differently.
     
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    But the hazard lights are in real life software locked. Only under specific safety systems/country are the hazard lights functional…
     
  18. bodensee#8535

    bodensee#8535 Active Member

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    then why do they work on all vectrons in DE?
     
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    Proof?
     
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    mkraehe#6051 Well-Known Member

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    Genuine question: what even *are* the hazard lights on a locomotive? Is it like on a car? I've never heard of such a thing, and certainly never seen a German train do anything like this.
     
  21. Spikee1975

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    Class 66 has them, your marker lights blinking then.

    I don't see anything added to gameplay, and as foob said this feature is locked in some countries, there's nothing more to say on this.
     
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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    The loco is very detailed, especially the important functions. If you raise the panto to a 15kv line and select a 25kv country, it wont let you turn on the power switch. The warning lights depend on the Vectron configuration and mostly the selected country.
     
  23. bodensee#8535

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    Very realistic. If u play Luzern-sursee and if u raise the CH panto u don't get power.
     
  24. bodensee#8535

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    Look on YouTube. Nothing heavy, right?
     
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    So why didn't you provide a link then, it's you who wants to prove it to us. :)

    I see hazard lights are used in France, in Germany there is no DB RiL (policy) that suggests using them, so they don't exist in Germany or are locked by software if present.

    Just contact Railpool and inquire about the hazard lights on their locos, would be a better idea.

    https://railpool.de/kontakt/
     
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  26. bodensee#8535

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    Not all trains have them. Bombardier traxx have hazard lights. The vectron has them too. If u look on YouTube you should find some. Flixtrain TXL and something

    Here I searched one now because u really Annoyed me
     
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    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    Works all well for me, correct pantos are getting raised, the country can be selected, and i made a quick drive from the HB to the depot. Not sure what your problem is, but i recommend you to study a bit more (especially technically aspects), currently you are complaining about something is modeled absolutley well and beyond whats excpected.

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    For me only the DE panto is working. If I raise the CH there is no power coming in.
     
  29. Spikee1975

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    Might be that this private operator (TX Logistics) has their own setup, and this is a 192 "Smartron" not a Vectron.

    Also, this look more like a "crossing lights" configuration, hazard lights would blink synchronously.
     
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    Have you selected the 15kv CH net? Zu beginn einfach den Hauptschalter aus, dann Pantograph nach unten, da standardmässig nach dem laden der Lok immer das deutsche Netz aktiv ist, selbst auf einer Strecke in einem anderen Land.

    Wenn alles ausgeschaltet ist (ausser Batterie), kannst du die Schweiz anwählen und Panto wieder hoch, dann Hauptschalter ein. Nach 30s sollte die Vectron einsatzbereit sein.

    Ausser du hast einen wirklich schrägen Bug auf deiner Platform, was ich nicht glaube da sonst keine Reklamationen kamen diesbezüglich
     
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    heavy??
     
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    Hard'n'Heavy ;)
     
  33. Myron

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    no I more thought of Team Fortress 2...
     
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    mate, Vectrons are no magic boxes, you do have to drop the panto before switching the power system... don't forget to raise it and close the MCB again, incase you didn't know how to do that yet ;)
     
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    Im not stupid.. It's just the thing that Luzern sursee is working with normal DE 15KV.
     
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    192 and 193 are identical. The difference is the multi system Ability on the vectron.
    [EDIT - Jan - Quarrelsome], you could easily find a vectron, but I don't want to do that because you think I'm stupid.
     
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    Why wouldn't it? The loco just checks if it's getting the right kind of electricity from the OLE. Switzerland uses the same system as Germany and Austria, so it's happy. Of course that pantograph doesn't fit within Swiss loading gauge and the safety systems are wrong, but how is the loco supposed to know that?

    Different operators' 193s aren't even identical to each other.

    If you and I disagree on something, it's not my job to find proof supporting your opinion. I did throw you a bone and search for "Vectron hazard lights" on YouTube and of the first 20 results, only two even had a train in them, and neither of them was using hazard lights.
     
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    I don't know about UK locos, but in most of Europe, the "hazard lights" usually means setting the signal lights into some visibly different configuration than normal operation (often top light flashing white, right and/or left light steady red) which is equal to aspect "Stop by all means possible" to all approaching trains.

    The use case is that you realized something went really wrong (shunting trip protruded outside of bounds of station, encountering dark autoblock signals on eastern european signalling meaning that the route is set into opposite direction, etc.). You stop immediately and go to call dispatch, but lot of time may pass in-between, so in case there would be a train coming onto you, you want to make sure that its driver understands the situation immediately and triggers emergency brake, instead of thinking that you are on a different track for first few seconds.
     
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    I’ve seen the the hazard lights button on locos going into France in my part of Germany, namely the 186s and the few 185s with the France equipment. The button just makes the lower two signal lights flash synchronous. As far as I recall, the button on the 186s at least might be software locked and you need to be in a French system setting for them to work. At least usual procedure for testing them is switching to a French system first.
     
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  40. steamylocoman

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    Just ignore Boden put him on the ignore list or report him
     
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    I don’t know if you did the livery on the 193 but on “Internatioal” it’s missing a “n” :D
     
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    He’s well known to create threads just for quarreling.
     
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    Why do u cut more then 70% of my sentence? About the smartron and Vectron. Who is lying here? You are!
     
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    Tell that cat_gaming_ger on discord. But if we talk about that. The vectron has the complete wrong colors. But make sure that when you write to him about a mistake or something else, he replies annoyed, says *Words* and blocks u
     
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    I didn't do anything here. Look at the one there, he shortens my sentences and acts as if that was my sentence even though there is a lot more to it.
     
  46. mkraehe#6051

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    I believe it's normal forum etiquette to keep quotes short and to the point (while obviously preserving meaning) rather than quoting entire posts. After all, if someone wants to read the complete post, they can simply scroll up.

    I have not accused you of lying.
     
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    But u cut a sentence that had important information about the thing that vectron and smartron are identically. The vectron is the multi system Variant of the smartron.
     
  48. mkraehe#6051

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    No. The single system versions of the Vectron are called Vectron AC and Vectron DC. The Smartron is one specific configuration of Vectron AC that you can buy off-the-shelf rather than made-to-order.
     
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    The 192 is just the vectron without the multi system. It's normally just for inland driving. The 193 with only 2 pantographs are there to drive trough Austria/Germany and I think France/NL or something.
     
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    Its from the creators club, didnt even notice the mistake ;)
     
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