Ukts Will Close 31st Of August 2023

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  1. dolanbaker

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    The list defaults to msts, if you select ts2013 then it shows the recently added scenarios.
     
  2. KeithG

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    I think the scenarios shown are updates from previously uploaded scenarios. Their UKTS file numbers for them date back to around 2020, which must be when they were first uploaded to UKTS.
     
  3. 749006

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    You are looking at the MSTS Pages but the latest uploads for TSC are under Train Simulator 2013
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    Peter
     
  4. KeithG

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    Looking at the latest UKTS file list. In September there were 3 updates to activities that had previously been uploaded under TS2013, in October 4 updates to activities that had previously been uploaded to TS2013. The last upload for MSTS was file UKTS 40947 ex-GWR Departmental Vans on 03-Sept 2023.
    So strictly speaking the last uploaded file was an update to a previously uploaded scenario for TS2013. The last "new " and not an update, is file UKTS 40947 for a MSTS van, if all that makes sense
     
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  5. eric from Trainsim.com

    eric from Trainsim.com Member

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    Yup, updates vs newest makes sense.

    But..... can anyone download absent a premium membership?
     
  6. WoodlandTracks

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    Good detective work !
     
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  7. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Seemingly it's broken premium or not.
     
  8. eric from Trainsim.com

    eric from Trainsim.com Member

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    Indeed it is.

    But the site had no problem taking my money for a premium membership.
     
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  9. dolanbaker

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    That's the problem with zombie websites, some parts work, while others don't.
    At least the forums still work at the moment.
     
  10. eric from Trainsim.com

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  11. OldVern

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    Looks like death by a 1000 cuts, then.

    At lease TS com is there for us. ;)
     
  12. WoodlandTracks

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    That is for sale at the moment.
     
  13. cunningn#3154

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    I see that when the domain was last registered (Jul 2023) the owner details (previously showing Matt P) are now all redacted. No idea what (if anything) that portends mind you...
     
  14. eric from Trainsim.com

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    The old url "train-sim.com" has been for sale but hasn't been used in years.

    Trainsim.com is very much alive and well. And solvent.
     
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  15. dolanbaker

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    I assume you're keeping the redirects in place until the site finally ceases to respond
     
  16. eric from Trainsim.com

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    We aren't redirecting to a broken site.

    The last 30 files were uploaded last night, so perhaps by tomorrow or Friday the downloading will be active for Zip files.

    We need to do a small code change for serving up RAR and other files which aren't in a zip format.
     
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  17. WoodlandTracks

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    The post was about ts.com
     
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    From Wikipedia
    "TS.com was founded in 2007 by Mike Abrodi and Sïmon Saneback.
    The webshop was one of Europe's leading online stores for streetwear and hip hop clothes, ..."

    Not sure what that has to do with this game or UKTS?
     
  19. OldVern

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    Pedantic again, Peter. I was referring to Trainsim dot com who have been in this thread trying to help, but sorry if my abbreviation caused confusion. Previously writing names of sites has caused issues with the forum software blanking things out.
     
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  20. WoodlandTracks

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    Ah dang, bad abbreviation.

    https://www.trainsim.com/

    Just went to the site. Crampacked with forum messages. Seems they stopped liking Train Simulator after the 2020 release though, not much on TSC ?!? But perhaps I did not discover that sub-forum yet.

    I wonder if they plan to upload all the files to their system when uktrains will go down.
     
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  21. eric from Trainsim.com

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    The files are already donated and listed. Just not downloadable by the general public yet.

    We will Lifeboat free content from defunct sites under certain condition e.g. it becomes unreachable. We won't Lifeboat payware or donationware, and authors can pull back their content on request.

    UKTS has now passed that point with email being rejected and the DLS no longer responding.

    The offer to Lifeboat the forums remains, but that requires cooperation from the UKTS folks.
     
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  22. WoodlandTracks

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    I hope it works out. But legally it is probanly not ok to transfer the forum. But who cares :) No one rememberes what they agreed to when they registered :)
     
  23. eric from Trainsim.com

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    The forums are captured by Archive.org - they're just frozen in time and not easily searchable.

    What we've done on TS is make the catalog searchable and cross referenced with their dependencies, and also preserved the descriptions.

    Where we take things a step further.... the zip file contents are viewable without needing to download, and you can search the entire library by what Wag or Eng is in a file or a consist.
     
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  24. KeithG

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    Eric that's fantastic work. Just had a quick look on trainsim.com and found the 2 locos for MSTS I made many years ago and uploaded to UKTS. It looks like I am able to edit them as well. Is that correct ?

    If nothing else you look to have preserved the UKTS download library, many thanks.
     
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  25. eric from Trainsim.com

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    If your username over there is the same, then yes. You should be able to edit the description and replace the download file as well as the thumbnail.

    Starting sometime next week, the file owner will also be able to turn off and on the downloading/listing of their files without contacting an admin first.
     
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  26. 749006

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    I'm not being Pedantic - I'm trying to sort out what you posted.
    The problem with posting something that only YOU know the abbreviation for is POINTLESS.
    You must be thinking of some other site because I have not seen any problem with links to proper sites.

    WoodlandTracks had no problem in posting the correct link - maybe OldVern is just Old.
     
  27. KeithG

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    LOL .

    Sorry !
     
  28. OldVern

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    Old but gold!
     
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  29. eric from Trainsim.com

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    We love Vern as he is.

    And pedantic or not, while my username should have erased and doubt.... our site has commonly been referred to as TS just like UKTS, TSC, TSSH and ET have long been used as shorthand for those sites....
     
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    The shorthand is ok if you know to what it refers.
    I have no idea to what TSSH & ET refer to - although the second is an alien.
     
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  32. eric from Trainsim.com

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    ET = Elvas Tower, home to the OpenRails dev team as well as a North American forum/download library
     
  33. OldVern

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    For a while when MSTS came out I referred to it as “MTS” as technically Microsoft is one word!

    I’ll get my coat…
     
  34. Reef

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    FWIW, IDK, WTF, AYP, ATA.
     
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    M-DOS :D
     
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  36. WoodlandTracks

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    lol
     
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  38. dolanbaker

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    Looks like the site has finally expired. :(
     
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    The download site has shuffled off it's mortal coil but the forum is still hanging on for now
     
  40. railroadamerica

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    Do you guys even care for this site from 1999.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Yes because there is a lot of information on the website.

    In particular you can search if you have a problem and find an answer.
    Just because something has been around for a number of years does no make it useless.
     
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  42. dolanbaker

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    Replying to myself, it's back now.
    Not sure why I couldn't access it.
     
  43. Doomotron

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    Use-net is still useful for certain things, it's the content that makes a website useful, and UKTS has a lot of things that are irreplaceable.
     
  44. alistaircowell

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    UKTS began in August 2001, its parent company Atomic Systems started in 1999.
     
  45. alistaircowell

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    It appears that UKTS has finally bitten the dust: 20231123193927.jpg
     
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  46. Peter Hayes

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    Alistair beat me to it!
     

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  47. eric from Trainsim.com

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    And today yields a different error page:

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    And the forums are clobbered as well...

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    End Of An Era

    But After Leaving One Station There Always Will Be A Next One !
     
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    Not if the station you have arrived at is a Terminus. Nowhere for that service to go.
     
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    What if it’s a triangle junction and can go back out down another line
     
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