Note before: Listen this is a little out there so if you just want to discuss rail only and nothing else don't worry about this nor make any argumentative comments. Live and let live. Please. I'll admit I was ready to buy the Christmas Elf route but never did it. But what about a showground route with haunted house of horrors (yes Halloween gave me this idea), a rollercoaster, a miniature train ride around the carnival or in the park next to it and a few other special novelties. Maybe dodgem cars? And some shooting gallery. Could even be a small chamber orchestra performing and fireworks when you complete all the 'objectives'. Yes I know this is out there, but having something interactive could be laughing material (original Doom monster sounds made me laugh every time ROFL) and the haunted house you could throw a ball at a monster and see it change into a princess or something. Something interactive. And then another idea would be for a castle in France or Germany. Ability to explore it. Dresden has a miniature railway park that was half complete and a station on the edge of Dresden about 6 or 7 stations out has a heritage railway or tram of sorts?
I really enjoyed The Holiday Express, a haunted house / ghost train would be a fun little route I think. I wouldn't go so far as adding in rollercoasters and dodgem cars as that would probably take the devs more time than it's worth but something along the lines of The Holiday Express but the tracks are running through a fairground's haunted house would be pretty cool.
I guess this tends more to be a new game than a DLC with the rollercoaster, bumper cars and festival site. I don't quite know whether it makes sense for them to invest in that idea and the additional work would be worth it and efficient enough, since people probably only would buy this around a specific time of the year. Also would require a lot of new assets in the UE editor, which is out of their regular range with the "normal" routes. However, a miniature DLC through a spooky festival area just the like The Holiday express, and maybe even just as a playground thing in a living room or so, would be very cool. Agree to that. To your other ideas I once had a video game when I was a child, it called "Disney's 102 Dalmatians: Puppies to the rescue". In this video game, there was a level where - I can't remember what the objective was - too long ago - a train which you could use to run through different halls in a fictional play house and discover them. You couldn't control the train, it moved automatically on its own, but it was a pleasure to take a ride and is a very lovely memory. I found a few photos of it here: I guess something like that with easier mechanics to learn would be something for kids as well. DTG could open themselves to a completely different audience and market with something like this. Yes, you're right. Dresden has a railway in the park (I remember my mother speaking about it often), but it's not that miniature to be honest. It's a real train, with real loco and real wagons, just a bit smaller than regular trains and probably with adapted and less controls. But oh my god, this could be so cool to bring as a new DLC as well. Here is a link to it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Park_Railway
SD40Australia are you suggesting something along the lines of Skyhook Games' Count Of Monster Disco DLC for TS?
Thanks for the link. First time I have heard about this railway. It looks fantastic and, location wise, in exactly the right place. What a great idea to have it run by youngsters too. David
I guess the question you need to ask yourself is, and the one that we asked ourselves after the christmas holiday pack: Would you rather x weeks of work spent on that, or new "real" content It literally takes up a DLC release slot to make something like that. It is no quicker than making a normal DLC tbh. I love the fun little things too but i'm 100% sure that the majority of players would rather just see their collection of "useful" trains and routes grow. Matt.
I think something like the Dresden Park Railway or the Budapest Children’s Railway would be popular but pure fantasy stuff not so much. The exception might be something like Thomas or as occasionally requested Polar Express but there would probably be a huge licensing royalty hit and in the case of the latter some of the route was just… weird. Trains going up and down 1 in 2 gradients, handbrake turns on the ice etc. Might be fun as a one off but probably not justifying 100’s of development hours to make.
I agree Matt, just ideas floating around LOL! I would rather more real routes, it's just that DTG's facbook post on Halloween sparked my imagination
Erm, hang on a minute. You originally said that the Xmas thing was put together as a one off for a bit of fun outside of working hours, so why would ask yourself anything after it's release if it never got in the way of 'normal' projects?
they can always hold a contest to let the community create such thing with the released editor once the cooking stuff works
I did quite enjoy the Holiday Elf DLC but found the music annoying, especially as it got louder, the closer to the source you got (for realism I assume). I would definitely buy a Blackpool Pleasure Beach add on with working rides though.
I would love to do some stuff like that if the capability of the PC Editor becomes better and it not only allows to cook but also provides more assets to build routes like that. Maybe even some assets used for the Holiday Express. Giving the tools for doing that would bring a lot more fun to the community as not everybody enjoys to only let their creativity out in the livery Editor.
That one was, it was done by preserved crew. If we did one now, it'd be in a release slot and take away from other things, as such I'm not a fan personally.
https://steamdb.info/app/65235/ https://steamdb.info/app/222540/ There were two of them, and I wish I had got both of them when they were available.
I remember them talking about that on a stream once, the license would cost a fortune but the DLC would effectively be a money printer. In TS there's a large Sodor network which is incomplete but very good so far.