the GWE Extension has been leaked in the training centre. The destination says London Paddington and the next station is Swindon. Which could mean that the Class 800 is coming to Train Sim World along with an extension for Great Western Express up to Bristol. And the GWR Class 387 is going to Didcot Parkway. If it's going to happen then they will have to put a new timetable in
It doesn't mean anything unfortunately. Dtg have also said a hard no to any extensions to gwe. Also, there's speculation that dtg no longer seems to have a gwr license.
Idk. I've read that first group doesn't allow it. Idk who owns gwr. Which is why there isn't emr or swr. But idk the reason other than what other people are saying
Probably date it way back before gwr and fgw if it ever gets made. There's also the editor which could only be made for free.
I think the main reason GWE won’t ever get an extension is because it’s just too old. Sand patch was already a lot of work to upgrade and the leading reason NEC: New York didn’t come to TSW 2 was the same. They could probably make a new GWR route in the same time or less instead of upgrading the current route. And as for licenses, I'm under the impression that even if they lose a license they can still keep the associated logos and stock in-game which is why we still have GWE; if you remember back in TSW 2 people found the old FGW livery in the game files.
Though with regards to this thread, I wouldn’t believe a leak if it came from the in game PIS, it’s very buggy and also includes many off world destinations.
No, license would be regarded if they can sell the GWR brand currently. Nothing can be done about previous sales but it would be against civil law (i think is the jurisdiction it falls under) to continue to sell GWR licensed products whether future or past made. the only other thing DTG could do to keep selling a route under a lost license would be to change it removing all traces of said license.
I know, I was saying they haven’t lost the license. (in all honesty I think they seem a bit difficult to work with (In my opinion) when they wouldn’t allow the FGW license)
If that's the case, they've probably heard how bad TSW now is and don’t want any new content with their branding.
I don’t think that’s the case, they haven’t been used since GWE, so they would have had no reason to hold such a view. if DTG wanted to do more GWR, I think they probably could. especially newer GWR stock, I think they are quite a bit overly protective of a perceived image, putting they’re brand on old stock or allowing permission to use predecessors seems to be they’re difficultly from my perception.
I believe in regards to licensing when DTG and TOCs make deals there is some sort of clause which basically says DTG can carry on selling existing stuff even if there is no new agreement for the license. In fact some licenses are only in place for one route and a new one will have to be agreed for another. This is probably so incredibly simplified as it is just my mind scrambling bits and bobs I've heard in streams together. In regards to GWR licenses they are First group owned and although I have absolutely not concrete idea, I would say it is unlikely we'll be seeing them or any other First venture in game any time soon. Obviously could be wrong but that's my thought.
It has been known for routes on TSC to be removed once a licence is no longer available or the TOC no longer exists and doesn't want the branding to still appear. Both North Wales Coastal and the South Wales Bristol - Swansea were removed from TSC when ATW lost the franchise and TfW took over. In the case of NWC, it was also due to the loss of Virgin Trains. Both of these routes were brought back but South Wales had unbranded Arriva liveries and NWC was changed to TfW and Avanti. DTG also had to re-release the class 390 Pendolino without Virgin branding. Iirc, Welsh Marches also had to be re-released with unbranded ATW class 175s.
yea possibly their is a clause type thing to counter that problem . whether or not GWE arrive soon or future, i honestly have no clue. but unless DTG confirm either way, I see no reason to believe anything other than they have no issue with the license the rivet “theory” (not aware it’s confirmed) about license on West Cornwall, could be false so pointless talking about it or as I’ve said above GWR seem a bit iffy about licenses so for many reasons could have said no, maybe if true also Rivet maybe didn’t go through DTG to GWR and GWR perhaps not interested in more proposals for whatever reasons.
Best policy for a refreshed and extended GWML would be reverting to 1980 and going from Paddington to Oxford or Swindon with HST’s and classic diesels. However that’s unlikely to happen as you would need at a minimum a Class 50, Class 117 DMU and various coaching stock to go with it. With DTG’s current penchant of releasing new routes with 1 x 1 handled traction unit (with dubious audio) it ain’t going to happen.
