Route North/west London Line

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  1. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    INTRODUCTION
    Today I'll be suggesting the London Overground this route would be 1 hour and 25 minutes long with 28 miles of track (45 km) this route would be serving 28 stations in total

    THE ROUTE

    The route is 28 miles long (45 km) and calls at 28 stations in total



    ROLLING STOCK


    378/2
    CAPITALSTAR
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    The class 378/2 Capitalstar manufactured by Bombardier Transportation as part of the Electrostar family this train was built from 2008-2011 plus the additional carriage in 2015 57 units were built and 57 remain in passenger service and 24 of these train were built with a additional 13 built from 2010-2011 the top speed of this train is 75 mph (121 km/h) the safety systems used on this train are TPWS/AWS and TRIPCOCK





    POTENTIAL DLC: 313/1
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    The class 313/1 built by British Rail Engineering Limited as part of the BREL 1972 family built from
    1976–1977 64 of these units were built with 23 of those units operated by Silverlink the max speed of this train 75 mph (120 km/h) the safety systems used on this train were TPWS/AWS






    SERVICES & STATIONS


    Richmond - Stratford


    •RICHMOND
    •Kew Gardens
    •Gunnersbury
    •South Acton
    •Acton Central
    •Wilesden Junction
    •Kensal Rise
    •Brondesbury Park
    •Brondesbury
    West Hampstead
    •Finchley Road & Frognal
    •Hampstead Heath
    •Gospel Oak
    •Kentish Town West
    • Camden Road
    •Caledonian Road & Barnsbury
    •Highbury & Islington
    •Canonsbury
    •Dalston Kingsland
    •Hackney Central
    •Homerton
    •Hackney Wick
    •STRATFORD




    Clapham Junction - Stratford


    •CLAPHAM JUNCTION
    •Imperial Wharf
    •West Brompton
    •Kengsington (OLYMPIA)
    •Shepherd's Bush
    •Wilesden Junction
    •Kensal Rise
    •Brondesbury Park
    •Brondesbury
    West Hampstead
    •Finchley Road & Frognal
    •Hampstead Heath
    •Gospel Oak
    •Kentish Town West
    • Camden Road
    •Caledonian Road & Barnsbury
    •Highbury & Islington
    •Canonsbury
    •Dalston Kingsland
    •Hackney Central
    •Homerton
    •Hackney Wick
    •STRATFORD



    Clapham Junction - Willesden Junction

    •CLAPHAM JUNCTION
    •Imperial Wharf
    •West Brompton
    •Kengsington (OLYMPIA)
    •Shepherd's Bush
    •WILLESDEN JUNCTION



    Richmond - Willesden Junction

    •RICHMOND
    •Kew Gardens
    •Gunnersbury
    •South Acton
    •Acton Central
    •Wilesden Junction




    TRAIN DEPOTS

    Willesden TMD
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    Willesden TMD is a maintenance depot the depot is situated to the West Coast Mainline it is also south-east to Willesden Junction station the depot code is WN.







    LIVERIES
    • 378204: Professor Sir Peter Hall
    • 378205: Every Story Matters #LondonForEveryone (also carries a special livery to commemorate the LGBTQ+ community
    • 378211: Gary Hunter
    • 378232: Jeff Langston
    • 378233: Ian Brown CBE




    AI

    The AI trains on this route are Gatwick Express,Southern and the Bakerloo line





    SOUNDS

    The Class 378s and 376s have a very similar traction motor to each other here are videos of the /2 arriving and departing

















    CONCLUSION

    This would be a good TSW4 route thanks for reading this suggestion feel free to share your opinion i hope you like this suggestion.
     
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  2. lucasfor49

    lucasfor49 Well-Known Member

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    Personally in my opinion having this route with Class 313's would be 100% better and then a 378 option for dlc. As for layers I'd expect GX and SN 387/377's respectably in Clapham
     
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  3. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    I think there would also be AI 1972 while going into Wilsden junction ( high level) with the bakerloo line being underneath
     
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  4. alfielegend#4097

    alfielegend#4097 Member

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    This would be a nice route to drive on, hopefully we will get freight layers if this comes since at South Acton there are freight trains heading towards and from the WCML
     
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  5. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    This is really good, because not only you get a lengthy Suburban line but you also connect the GWML and BML together (maybe the SEHS too) and even future mainlines, making it a really good freight corridor in London, so I do support this post a lot.
     
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    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    No but some of the routes in game started there
     
  9. charliejay801

    charliejay801 Active Member

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    beautiful suggestion i have to say , the London Overground is highly requested
     
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  10. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    indeed it is speaking of London overground im currently working on a suggestion the East and South London line
     
  11. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Well, why not have all L.O lines? Imagine not only the passenger routes that could be extended from it but the freight corridors it could create
     
  12. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

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    Do the 710s run on this line? They would make a good addition to this, plus they could be modified and turned into 345s for the Lizzie line in future.
     
  13. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

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    Not yet, from what I remember the 710’s run on the Watford DC Lines and the line that runs to Chingford.
     
  14. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    They do the Watford DC line and Gospel Oak to Barking I think some services to Chingford, Enfield Town and chestnut from Liverpool Street
     
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  15. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    378s operate the West, North, South and East London lines (the circle) whilst the 710s operate all LO services on the GOBLIN line and out of Liverpool Street
     
  16. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    For example, you can finally have freight trains running from Newhaven or Crawley Sidings to Acton T.C or Brentford Sidings in Southall
     
  17. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Good route, especially acting as a freight corridor. I mean you can connect the BML, GWML and I suppose HS1 together and other future mainlines to you can theoretically get a Crawley New Yard to Acton Yard for example
     
  18. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Wait I didn't realise someone already realised this
     
  19. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Great suggestion, it would be nice to have the North London Line in Train Sim World 4 because it has a power change at Acton Central from the 750V DC third-rail to the 25kV AC overhead wires (or vice-versa if heading to Richmond) and having the Class 313 in there (as DLC) would mean this route is set in the late 2000s when the 378s started taking over the 313s :)
     
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  20. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    Would like to see the North/West London Lines, but I fear the route would be missing a lot of AI potential with trains/layers we do not have yet where it intersects with other lines, making it feel a lot less busy than it should. There is a freight element to the route however, which would increase the appeal somewhat. I feel it would be most similar to Birmingham Cross-City in terms of gameplay, and the power changeover element would add some additional interest.
     
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  21. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Wait where do the 378s do power change on the west London line
     
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  22. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    The power changes on this route are at Acton Central and theres one between Shepherd's Bush and Wilsden Junction
     
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  23. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Between? Not like whilst at the station?
     
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  24. Eee

    Eee Well-Known Member

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    Yea between those stations the train will switch from AC to DC or vise versa while moving on a netrual section if you watch this video the timestamp is 48:44



     
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  25. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    This route should have come with the Goblin line in TSW4 but that is highly unlikely. I wish that they work on the NLL as a major project to counter there small project of the Goblin Line. Do not get me wrong I love the Goblin line but it was the worst possible LO line
     
  26. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

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    Well it could've been the Romford to Upminster Line
     
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  27. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I did not think of that. I hope another London Overground route will feature shortly
     

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