Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - November 2023

I hope with the Köln-Aachen improvement screenshots it will not be like with the New York Trenton screenshots of freight stock.

And no word about the slow moving only external camera in TSW4 so far.

 

Nothing announced in regards to fixing the Class 700, that's really unfortunate. Just drive on the PS5 version of the game and watch as the AI-driven 700s use none of the lights on the train. That's the one fix I want. Just make the AI use their lights. Please.

 

Will the new Class 66 liveries substitute onto any other routes for more variety, particularly Peterborough to Doncaster?

 

He’s never happy, but there’s just no pleasing some people

 

I mean I like watching his videos. Yep he's sometimes rude but most of the time he's right. Personnaly I watch videos from DTG Ambassador who says everything is shiny and unicorn exist. "What bugs, there's no bugs here". And I watch critical video too. It give a good perspective of what is good and not.

 

I wish we could get new freight locos instead of constantly using the 66 but I know licensing could be an issue

 

Interesting road map. Good to see some screenshots of the timetable improvements being made for the Koln - Aachen route.

 

Yawn, nothing for me.

 

So what's happening with the azuma gangways and the cable connectors being animated?

 

Not the worst roadmap going. The most interesting thing for me were Simtrack as although I've no interest in a new livery for the 323 they certainly have peaked my interest about what's coming round the corner so will buy it in support, most likely. I honestly don't know what I am going to do with my signature over the next few months!

Regarding Rivets pack, I am disappointed as it is a couple of reskins of an existing loco and wagon with a handful of scenarios and services for a tenner. To put this into perspective the RHTT and ROG 37 were a fiver for, arguably, more meat.

I think we all know how much I'm looking forward to JT's route!

 

I wouldn't say it's unrealistic. For example his New York to Trenton review was quite spot on for instance on how bad the route was and all the issues it had. Adding 7 miles of the sheneress branch isn't unrealistic. Adding 2 miles of the Princeton branch in nyt isn't unrealistic. The problem is that DTG tend to rush content out the door and the quality of the product suffers as a result. At least it isn't a dtg ambassador that just blindly praises a product. I find his reviews to be balanced which is something alot of the ambassadors don't do.

This is quite off topic though

 

Who is involved with Simtrack anyway? We're told we might recognise some names but none are mentioned.

 

Is this the Aussie or the place starting from T one?

 

Unbelievable, tons of new stuff announced, over a month after release only blablabla about fixes again.

No date for the Editor PAK fix, just promises again and again. I mean honestly, you made people buy TSW4 to get an Editor which is not able to cook content and integrate it into the game since the release?
"We’ll share more news on these improvements to the Editor when they’re ready." Just wow!

No critical questions from Q&A thread answered, as always.

With so much 3rd party stuff coming in the future you should finally start to fix the game.

 

Maybe I’m being a pedant here, but 66587 IRL has no buckeye. Personally this kind of spoils it for me as it’s no different to just downloading a livery. If the coupler was changed at least it would give a new body shape of 66. Also since this is Rivet I don’t think there is any point in bringing it up as it will not get changed.

 

Tauranga

 

Dtg still can't do everything due to budget and time restraints. 7 miles is still 7 miles. There's nothing easy about building 7 miles of scenery, track, stations and a 24hr timetable. Even 2 miles can be a lot if the service variation is complex, etc

 

That's the place! I don't think I have ever seen any of his stuff so won't comment on him. Actually I suppose discussion of TSW youtube personnel may be an interesting one for off topic, or whatever, but I'll leave that one there for others to act on.

 

Overall I‘m very much looking forward to the new stuff on the roadmap, however one thing concerns me a little. Improvements to MML are mentioned, however there are still plenty of crashes on this route on PS, but nothing is mentioned. It improved in the last MML Patch (It crashed every run then) but it still is an issue

 

I would like to tell DTG that I am watching the status of TSW3 updates and consider this to be a key indicator on whether or not they are operating with honesty and good faith.

 

Also, can we have the roadmap codes back please?

 

Not a particularly interesting Roadmap. Nothing in the Core or Patches gets the juices flowing. And, if they can name the new German route, why not name the US route? In fact why not name all the upcoming routes and loco ( packs ), presumably they know what they are. No need for secrecy or some " big reveal ". Isn't the purpose of the Roadmap to give us things to look forward to, to whet our appetite?

Without details on the future American content and no information about NYT fixes, this Roadmap leaves me cold.

 

I am so, so bored of these "gameplay packs" which are just liveries I could download from creator's club. New scenarios aren't enough to justify buying them.

It doesn't help that one of them is a Class 66, which is already the most overdone loco in TSW. When will we get a Class 60? Or a Class 56, or 57, or 70? Part of the reason I have little to no interest in freight is that they're all run by 66s, and I've already driven them to death on past routes.

Very disappointing roadmap in my opinion.

 

Well if things are announced too early and content ends up getting cut, players won't be happy.

 

likely as the area covered by the German route is finalised and coming before the US route.

I doubt they want to announce multiple routes together, they will want to have focus on one rather than split it. Tends to seem when more than one route is waiting to go out they often have at least 1-2 weeks between releases.

the US route length may also not as of yet be finalised, rush hours changed quite quick before release for Dresden.

 

Honestly after seeing the work that JT have put in to BPO watching these 'gameplay packs' feels a little like we're just being sold content that probably should've/could've been included in the main release if more time and attention went into them.

I feel like JT have just raised the bar in terms of content, liveries and stock. Even though we haven't got the route yet and don't know how it performs it seems to trump everything on value for money by a long way in my opinion.

Although I do hope SimTrack easing themselves in does have a positive impact on their PFR pack which I'm very interested in

 

They did! They are also reacting to feedback, answering questions etc. nobrainer for me to give this team money! They deserve it! A lot of people have only bought TSW4 because of the upcoming JT route, at least this is my feeling.

 

Is Kettle a reference to a loco? Can’t remember if there’s one with that nickname?!

 

... yes, players will not be happy if they were promised fixes for game breaking bugs, general quality issues that should have not been there in the first place, and content that was widely announced but then delivered broken or incomplete

 

Kettle is commonly used to refer to Steam engines in general

 

DovetailGPT

 

a bar raised for sure, might be a challenge to keep to their standards in future for both JT future content and other developers.

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As for the roadmap I thought it was quite decent, nice to see quite a chunk of different content rather than non or 1, and had my hopes lifted in the stream with Z-Fighting acknowledgment, I just hope now a resolve isn’t a light year off, so I can get back into TSW content I can’t use and for future purchases post Blackpool.

 

Much agreed. Also much needed fixes too for the Eanos Wagons that came with the Vectron regarding the strange artifact shapes that keep appearing.

 

Z-Fighting was acknowledged in the stream, picked up by Alex and Matt said he needs to have a chat with the team about how it’s happening only on all Xbox platforms not others.

Trust me it’s my biggest issue with TSW, I’ll do my best to make sure it ain’t forgotten .

stream timestamp about 1:27:10

 

Wow, there are more DTG apologists on the forum every day. Pretty soon we won't need any DTG employees posting with all the un(official) spokespersons (or wanabes ) to give us the party line.

 

Where did I apologize for DTG? I did the exact opposite

 

Well it seems to be also a question of mentality. It is JT's first route, they are raising the bar as TSG did with Niddertalbahn when it came out. And it is still one of the best routes in TSW, at least it is still the most beautifully done route of all of them as of now.

Where Rivet Games and Skyhook don't give me the impression on improving, they just release the stuff, don't react to feedback, don't fix much and it at least feels like they are not interested in raising the bar. Rivet for example does have nice loco 3d models but that's where the good things about their content ends. I'm also looking always for stuff that seems too generic for me in the new route screenshots. For example in the JT route a fence is actually rounded up and going in a curve where from rivet you can already see walls placed straight and straight again even if they should make a curve.

Also this screenshot looks so terribly bad, I've directly lost interest.

Not that I will buy anything again from them after the most disappointing Arosa Line release.

 

no apologist, just stating a bit of basic marketing and development process reasons.

I think if I was to defend DTG like no tomorrow, I don’t think announce the route would be priority, it comes when it comes.

 

My apologies, I didn't read the irony in your post. Cheers.

 

it’s a real large open area in real life from what I’ve seen, it will be a challenge, it just needs more focus on scenery work, not the worst I’ve seen and seems progressing fine to me.

 

I guess the only thing is they've added an Emergency Brake adaptor console to it, so it can be used in 385 hauling. So I'm guessing its an addition for gameplay's sake

 

Thing is, I'm pretty sure DTG stated that they start planning for a route 1 or 2 years in advance, so they should already know what the next route is.

Actually no nevermind, given how rushed some parts of these routes are, they do probably shove them out in a 3 month window.

 

the general area yes, the actual ends no, that’s what people care about and that info can come late in development as seen with Dresden Riesa.

then they also have a German route looking like it will come first, and won’t want to have 2 routes being marketed at once.

 

Well I'm being realistic. Let's say dtg do announce a route in detail releasing in 6+ months with specific rolling stock and destinations. A lot can happen in 6+ months: stock might change, the operator might change, destinations may change and many more. Then when the route is closer to release, content ends up being cut, which causes uproar which is what happened with rush hour. Announcing things too early and then realizing later down the line it can't be made will have a more negative response than content being announced closer to the release date with 100% certainty. The ones that are announced are 100% certain. They can't be 100% certain about dlc releasing in 6+ months

 

Not my cup of tea (except for the upcoming Blackpool release). Will be getting Niddertalbahn and Blackpool route around Christmas time and and then will wait and see what the franchise has in store for 2024.

 

They plan for it but it's not set in stone right from the start

 

They should at least give us the route code for the next route.

 

they maybe could, but I don’t think they seem to do that as of TSW 4 at least.

people do seem a little inpatient on this one to me though.

 

... and this is what we call in software development terms, an alpha or for games, early access or in-development. If your project's plan is not even set in stone and actively add and remove features that the project encompasses, then it's not finished, not stable and especially not a full product.

 

can’t be early access or in development or beta when it’s not still in development and releases to my knowledge.

it’s just in development until it’s not for TSW.

full product is down to discretion of the developer.