I was really looking forward to the new suspension system in Train Sim World 4, but it's been two months since the game's release and it's still not out. I was really disappointed to find out that it wasn't included in the game at launch, especially since it was advertised as a "core feature". I understand that game development can be a complex and unpredictable process. But I think we deserve to know why a feature that was advertised as being a "core feature" of the game is still not available two months after launch. I'm not asking for a specific release date. I just want Dovetail Games to be more transparent about the development of the new suspension system.
Winter core update. Also, will only apply to TSW4 base and future content, and *may* be rolled out onto previous stock as and when/ if applicable. So don't hold out too much hope if you play older routes
It'll come when it's ready - it's not ready yet and is proving to need more time to get it tested across the range of routes and trains. If I can't get this to the standard it needs to be before Christmas, it'll be delayed, I don't want to rush it, I don't think anyone wants that. Matt.
Matt how is the timetable for Cologne-Aachen going? I assume Joe is working on it, could you perhaps ask him sometime if ICE 3 coupling proceedures are included in some ICE services that head to Cologne? or if he is still heavily working on it, maybe he could add some, it would be a nice addition I guess
Blackpool has it along with the tc 323. But it's still being worked on as it's a whole set of physics changes for each different types of suspension
Joe's not had any time to get back to the Koln timetable update so that's in a holding pattern at the moment but i'll pass on your message. Matt.
If you want a glimpse as to what it’ll be like when it comes to future trains with a more complex suspension system you can drive the training centre 323 which has a very early pass at the suspension. And the Class 142 on BPO has the new physics fully implemented.
or maybe is taking himself some free time who knows. I do wanna throw up wishes like a new busier timetable for munich augsburg (ideal for ICE 1 services and the upcoming class 420 in the S-Bahn network) but I think we should let Joe and/or the team pick what they think is good for the routes/community. cheers
Perfectly understandable stance, but makes me wonder why was TSW4 released in september then? Most of the stuff it was advertised with are just not working.
It’s going to be weird if I pick up any new routes after BPO and they don’t have suspension. Im not entirely surprised that the suspension on the current TSW 4 trains isn’t here, but if JT got it into the 142, surely is possible for DTG to get into their new stuff going forward? I fear that we won’t see suspension until after the new year & that we’ll be waiting even longer to see the suspension implemented on anything released upto that point.
There are different types of suspension for different types of trains and traction, not just 1 suspension for everything so it doesn't make it easier or faster for dtg to implement. It's a lot of physics changes, not just a visual thing
Pacers have dead easy suspension, they are just glorified wagons, no bogies and just basic springs. Most trains have bogies which means double the amount of suspension (axles and the bogie itself) plus there's also other types of suspension like air, most modern trains use air. We got it into the pacer with JT early, it's not ready for prime time yet in other forms, but this one worked well so JT put it on the Pacer as it means so much to that train. "most" stuff was working just fine, just suspension and formation designer that missed the deadline. You can't just move release dates of games i'm afraid, so the choice was to rush it and "make it fit" or pull it and get it in when right. Matt.
Hey Matt, about the new suspension, in the future we could see these new suspension into the wagons too or It's just loco only thing?
It's not just the suspension on the 142 that makes BPO as good as it is. The sheer amount of detail that was put into the route is what makes it so attractive to people. If you turned of motion sway or the suspension wasn't there at all I don't think it would make the route any less enjoyable or sell any less.
Bounciness is secondary compared to other more important things. People buy for quality. Unless you're being sarcastic
The brutally honest truth is that DTG have promised features that have never materialised so often *coughcough*MANUAL FIRING*coughcough* I simply do not believe them when they say a feature (of any guide, even a minor bug fix) is coming soon, it just needs a little bit more time on it and they can't give a precise date.
It would definitely lower my enjoyment of the pacer if it didn't bounce. It's essential to the character of the train, and would feel a bit sterile without it.
To be fair they never promised a date or announced something "close to ready". Officially they stated its not ready. Fron that it became rather silence about it.
They've not released things they said were "close to ready" as well... I hope, for instance, that the issue of TSW2 and TSW3 updates has not been forgotten by players.
Yep its coming to wagons - we already have it in a couple of them since they're already supported by pacer-wagon suspension anyway. Same with coaches. Matt.
Yeah, but I doubt many people would purchase the route if they found out the Pacer wasn't realistic, given it was another major selling point. Scenery isn't always the most important factor.
In the meantime, consider implementing the feature on the forthcoming DB BR 642 DMU to provide an additional train with the feature until the complete feature releases.
