Route Maintalbahn - Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'Player Feedback' started by DTG-Chris, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. dnv3

    dnv3 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but there should be no errors of such proportions, only with the 193 as an example errors about errors (which have been fixed) as if the beta testers no longer want to do their job at all
     
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    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    dtg_jan Thanks for the Patch, now everything is almost perfekt!
     
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  3. Myron

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    when will it unlock (Steam, PC)? I thought at 17:00 but why 19:00 again?? :( won't be able to play it today anymore then
     
  4. Xander1986

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    Yeah thats really late.... I had comment already about this point...
     
  5. Tigert1966

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    Can’t remember where I saw it, but it’s 17:00 CET on Epic, 19:00 CET on Steam.
     
  6. Myron

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    oh come on :mad:
     
  7. dnv3

    dnv3 Well-Known Member

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    It's not worth it yet......
     
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    Release times are predetermined by the respective platform. In the case of Steam it has always been 7pm CET, which is why you see new game releases or the start of, for example, the Steam Autumn Sale at 7pm. Same goes for any other platform like Epic, PlayStation or Xbox.

    Also wanted to point to our release of a patch for PlayStation users that should resolve most of the issues reported so far. Additionaly to my post in this thread I created an announcement post here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/playstation-5-patch-november-28th.76624/#post-758812
     
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  9. Myron

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    well then so be it. I hope I might still get to squeeze some time out of it who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  10. dnv3

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    How long will it take this time for the rest to work completely? (Hope not as long this time as with the 193 (not meant badly but it's just annoying/not personally meant DTG it can be better we know that)
     
  11. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Can I check - are these since the update we pushed this afternoon? (You'll need to close TSW4 and download it).
     
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    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    For those reporting issues on PS5 - can you please close TSW4, check for the latest update, pushed around around 3pm GMT, and see if the things you're seeing are still issues? We know that that patch will have addressed some of the early feedback we saw about the 642, and PIS at Aschaffenburg.
     
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    This was before the update - the BR 628 is now selectable from the menu and I think the traction lock indicator bug has been fixed.
     
  14. dnv3

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    DTG JD Yep the 628 works.
    but in Miltenberg we still have IMG_7478.jpeg IMG_7480.jpeg IMG_7481.jpeg IMG_7477.jpeg a problem
     
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    One thing i noticed is from a distance the Scharfenberg Coupler looks edgy with less polygons. It gets normal if you are close to it with the camera. I also noticed i have the BR628 on the Maintalbahn, but i dont have the BR 642 on the Tharandter Rampe in Timetable Mode. Another thing that occured was stuck at a red light in Obernburg- Elsenfeld. Service was RB88 (23306). I also wondering how to uncouple two units. If i switch the master key to uncouple in the display it says "uncoupling in process" ,but nothing happens. Am i missing something with that? Im on PS5
     
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  17. dnv3

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    Jep. But looks good
     
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    DTG JD and the DB Class 612 don’t use the fis and the ai spawn on a car (looks funny) IMG_7482.jpeg IMG_7483.jpeg
     
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  19. Myron

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    It seems like the beta testers did a great job uncovering lots of bugs, good job DTG
     
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    This can be argued about. I mean, I belong to the community myself and often report many bugs that the beta testers should see....
     
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    It does, but because the 612 is still on TOD3, you cant see it…
     
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    Ah, okay, my mistake, thank you
     
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    In the 'on your bike' scenario. (PS5).

    Passengers disembark on wrong side of train through closed doors at Kleinwallstadt.

    No audible pings when objectives are completed.
     
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  24. Myron

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    okay heres my first block of feedback, mainly towards the Desiro Classic

    - can we get a lower sensivity for the throttle/brake switch? it goes up/down too fast when pressing A/D
    - when pressing any of the PZB buttons can it please trigger it immediately without needing to hold it half a second? I noticed it on one or two other trains aswell (probably Talent 2 idk)
    - the MFDs are far too bright I suppose
    - the horn start has some cut and instantly tones up, can we get a smoother start for it?
    - I believe the cab door has "the luxury of being able to open towards both inwards and outwards", maybe that could be a nice addition, opening it to the direction the player looks at

    why is the reverser switch marker/mousemovementvisualizer not aligned to the switch?
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    why is it vertical? I was sooo used to it being sideways but what the hell man
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  25. yolominaty

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    - Can step up trough closed doors
    - Lock steps button isn't working properly, when pressed it lights up and when the doors are opened it goes out and it doesn't lock the steps altough it's supposed to
    - when you press the pzb keys they don't get pressed immediately, you have to wait for half a second for it ti register which is very anoying
    - when clicking on the buttons on the screen you can see the buttons being missaligned for a little bit
    - while driving turning the door switch to one side then back to closed all makes the door indicators start blinking even tough the doors are closed
    - the buttons on the doors have a clicky sound when you press them but doesn't open the door which is weird, you have to click next to the button to open it
    - the power handle could be a bit less sensitive
    -spring brakes not working at all
    - if the key is turned to off while driving (power handle forward, reverser forwars) and then back to on then the train is undrivable
    - oh and in a real desiro the brake cylinders fill wayyy faster when braking with the power handle, braking with it feels slow compared to the real one.

    Such minor mistakes make the game so unreal. This was a very rushed release. :(


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  26. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    After reading this thread im glad my money stayed in my wallet.

    Currently waiting 20mins, my service goes back from blackpool to leeds.

    Ill support dtg by purchaising maintalbahn on a 75% sale.
     
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  27. dnv3

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    DTG JD 1, the BR612 seems to have bent itself firmly with several traction

    2, the 612 also seems to be stuck in the buffer

    3. I don't know what a freight wagon has to do with a diesel drive person car, but good....

    4, I don't know why there is a catch with the timetable of the 642 but good?
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  28. padruig

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    The route is okay, but the train is such low quality. It’s weird after the 700 and the Vectron DTG are
    capable of putting out great locos. As the person above mentioned the switches don’t go the way you’d think with the mouse, power/break leaver is way too fast, the whole cab just looks very low resolution and Train Sim Classic quality. Very disappointed with it.
     
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    DB 642 is not subbing into DCZ as mentioned in streams and today’s article
     
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  30. mkraehe#6051

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    +1 for the power/brake handle, it moves much too fast.

    Has anyone figured out how to uncouple two 642s yet? Turning the main key to the left position (labled "uncouple") does make "Entkupplungsvorgang läuft" ("uncoupling in progress") become active on the left display, but it doesn't actually uncouple the trains, not even when I do it on both units. Is there anything else I have to do, or does this simply not work?
     
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    Everytime when i try to start a timetable service my game crashes while im in the loading screen
     
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    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Thanks for your feedback, folks. We'll be following this up tomorrow morning.
     
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    The 642 Kombihebel needs also some improvements in regards of raildriver input.
    The brakes use 1/3 of the lever way, then stays near full braking and goes at about 2/3 way into emergency brake. Similar behavior at the throttle side.

    Open level crossing near Wörth.
     
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  34. meridian#2659

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    DTG, you have to do better..., its just ridiculous. Not worth my time, and for sure not worth my money.
     
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    And best of all, please rework the sound of the 642 again. The gear changes are far too fast, which just sounds unrealistic. And a little bass for the engine wouldn't be bad either.
     
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    Very helpful such reactions.... Not!
     
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    Hi

    The trophy MAIN: Hypermyle is in french. i have my console in portuguese, should english appear if the game doesnt have portuguese subs but this trophy are in french all other are in english like they should be.

    MAIN: Hypermile - Terminer le scénario «Plus que des vapeurs» sur la Maintalbahn. Please fix this.
     
  38. Xander1986

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    The would be a problem for a small group fans but will not fixed i believe... Its what it is. If you wish 100% reality than you expecting to much.
    Its not so simple to get the right sounds but thats written for many times now...
     
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    Platform: Steam

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    I love the route! The tracks are a little clear but further more its good sofar. It brings a lot of fun! The train looks superb the sound is good but the realistic sound is missing but thats what it is. Its always the problem with missing sources. Thanks for this addon! :)
    Performance is absolutely 10/10 this is a good route for low performance PCs! 70/60 fps the whole route is stunning!

    Oh yeah the power handle is to fast that is a little thing. I have a mechanical keyboard so its working well but for other types of keyboard is difficult i understand
     
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    Uninstalling the Riesa Dresden route solved this for me.

    First I tried to remove all mods (including ini) and the crashes were still happening. But I noticed that scenarios were ok, so it had to be something with the layers. Then I tried to uninstall the loco dlc 363 because that broke something else way back in the day and that wasn't it. Then in service mode I noted the 363 from Riesa Dresden had a blank image. So I uninstalled that route and everything works now.

    Well except that I can't have Riesa Dresden installed...
     
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    Nobody says it's easy. But that shouldn't be an excuse and DTG's claim.

    You're always putting something in someone's mouth. Nobody said it has to be 100% realistic! But the way it is now, it just sounds like LOVE, sry. And it's not just a small group that sees it that way, as you say, but people have read it many times now.

    But it's true. It is what it is and if it were up to users like you, everything would be fine, everything would be great. But that's not it at all. I just want to see more love again, love for quality and love for details. We looked around Trenton because there were new things to discover everywhere. In the Main Valley you don't feel like doing that at all because you just come across new unkindnesses.
     
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    You written in the same post here the problem that i written already it is what it is.... And let me clearing the point... There is a group that liked the sound or its fine for them, im the one as well and there is a group German that expect better sounds so that a smaller group i guess... The most users have no clue how it in the realistic way is. This train is not in a large range in traffic and people from the outside of Germany has no clue at all.

    And otherwise sounds and how you experience this is so depending on what for a hardware you use.. i have a good headset with a lot of sound settings and for me the sound has good bass and hears pretty good. If you use speakers the sound is mostly terrible and flat
     
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    It's off topic, but over 250 units of the BR642 were built, so I would consider it to be widespread, at least in Germany.

    And just because other users (outside Germany) don't know the train is no excuse for DTG's work being sloppy.

    You just have completely different requirements than me (although I don't expect a Zusi at all!), which is okay, but don't always base your opinion on everything.
     
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  44. jero#7892

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    Removing my Mods fixed it for me
    I didn't even think that it could be due to the mods, which have already caused problems for me on the route Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr. Thank you!
     
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    Had give the route a chance but at the end I have give it back. For me it makes no fun to drive on here. Its some kind of boring route for me and then the wide track bed at several places, wich looks not good. On a single route its disturbing more than on double track. That it can made better can be seen at Niddatalbahn and Preston.
    Further: why are used sames assets over years and years such those specific wall that finally triggered me here again? Yes, its makes al lot easier and faster. But: In over - how long we have TSW? - some other kind of walls could have been created and used, some other colors, some other materials, some other designs. Perhaps I´m too triggered but it feels for me, they have one single wall and that one single thing is used over and over again and again without any variations.
    The vehicle looks nice but driving makes for me no fun too. Power handle to sensitiv with tastatur and motor makes weird things when throttle was moved back to zero. The sound itself was relatively ok for me. Not best thing, but acceptable. DTG created more worst in past (including TSC)
    Niddatalbahn and the new Preston route - that are examples for Diesel-Addons what can be made and whats possible.
     
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    On the Cold Shoulder scenario:
    PZB 1000 always flashing , even when not in 1000hz zone.
    PZB saying maximum speed 165km/h in a 1000hz zone
    Saying max speed 165 km/h approaching red aspecr
    PZB flashing 85/70 saying PZB safe to release, cannot release PZB

    PZB disabled, still flashing saying safe to release, will not release
    Takes 2x clicks if release to release the pzb


    Different alarm audio levels for SIFA across different services, and different parts of the same service!!! Sometimes not audible at all

    Fix that right hand screen! No brightness adjustment and cannot turn it off. Dazzlingly bright, horrendous at night.

    Triggers way too sensitive for acceleration and braking!

    I was streaming when I came across these and others that I didn't note down. On my YouTube Cleggsta

    PS5 UK.



    Ps, why oh why oh why is every update for TSW4 On my PS5 STILL forcing a download of TSW3 on my console Also forcing downloads of PS4 Content for 2 different games??!!! Every time I choose to buy a new dlc, or you put out an update, I'm fighting console storage because it's installing TSW3 every bloody time!!!
     
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    So I find the addon to be better than expected. The 642 is great, I like the details of the different sounds of the switches in the cab, being able to toggle the heating in the cab and the A/C, being able to use the left display and so on. Sound wise its absolutely good for me, been a passenger on a 642 recently and it sounds similar enough to me.
    However:

    We have this toggle-able displays in basically every loco. Ok, sometimes the contrast is not changeable or the brightness. But for the love of god, this seems a super simple thing to do and I just don't get why this can't be done consistently.

    Thanks anyways for the 642 lol
     
  48. Jon from Rhode Island

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    I think the route looks great and I am enjoying the drive in the 642 although the A and D keys are making the throttle jump a bit too much. The problem is the timetable. I’m indefinitely stuck at a red, already 20 minutes late. (Northbound at Obernburg).
     
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    First of all both the BR 642 and the route look very good. It especially looks amazing in the fall when all the forests turn colourful. Some issues though (running on Steam, PC):

    +1 to the a/d throttle/brake sensitivity. It is quite a bit more sensitive than on any other train. Also a +1 to the right white screen. No problems during the day, but it is quite blinding at night so perhaps adding an on/off or intensity switch would be nice. BR 642 sound could use a bit more bass when applying power. I also have not seen the red cover sacks on the couplers on any train so far.

    Finally, I’m thinking the BR 642 accelerates a bit too slowly since it is quite hard to keep up with the timetable, especially the RB services. I know it is not the fastest train but it feels a bit too slow. Full throttle acceleration and harsh braking is necessary to keep up with the timetable and often even that is not enough. Curious to see if that is just my experience or if others agree.
     
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  50. dnv3

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    The sounds is great an half same like the real one…..
     

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