Wycombe And Joint Line V5 Sundry Discssions

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  1. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Really enjoying this route but finding Quick Drive a bit frustrating due to spurious SPADS. Using the Taplow to Leamington path all well until Reading but departing on the Down Main got as far as Oxford Road Junction to have the drive abruptly terminate with a SPAD message. All signals pulled off that I can see and in a QD scenario you’re not likely to be following another train anyway. On V4 of the route, which I was playing until I realised 5 was out, had a similar situation on the Down Relief at Maidenhead trying to depart towards Bourne End with clear signals, got a SPAD termination.

    So for now bought myself the Victory 14xx plus auto coach and pottering around doing some of the branch line services. But is this an issue with the route or a known bug with QD, which I haven’t used an awful lot but with a route like this where I’m missing a large percentage of required stock for the supplied scenarios, is pretty much invaluable?
     
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    Unfortunately SPADS on the Wycombe route are a fact of life. I have spent many hours trying to fix them often with little success but the route is rather large and the saving and reloading process now takes a very long time. Version 5.2 with some more fixes should be out 'before Christmas'.

    'got a SPAD termination' - you have Settings/Gameplay 'Passing danger signal end game' ticked??.

    If you find a problem, screenshot it to show its location and email me via the web site http://www.pgdl.co.uk/vpris/

    'missing a large percentage of required stock for the supplied scenarios'
    I try to restrict and the requirements and keep them to a few major suppliers but a lot of GWR stock has been released over the years and I try to support it where it is relevant.
    Scenario requirements list:
    http://www.pgdl.co.uk/vpris/plus5/scenario_instr/WRJL+5 Scenarios from Plus5 Scenarios.pdf

    A good start would be VW Prairie packs, Maitrix Toplights (perhaps there will be a sale soon) and Pannier Sound and reskins from Steam Sounds Supreme.


    There are a lot of Quick Drives set up for BR and GWR eras which may make use of what you have along with the route's free rolling stock pack download. Drivable consists can be found under 'WRJL GWR Consists' and 'WRJL BR(W) Consists). These have a prefix code to match your Departure point.

    Regards
    PeterG
     
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  3. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Peter. Don’t get me wrong the route is great and on a par as I said with Clive Heard’s S&D, Cornish, Bristol to Birmingham and Midland Line for MSTS. I’m having a great time. Actually I have got SPAD termination turned on so I will turn it off and see how that plays.

    As regards the stock, it was more of an aside - been spending too much money on TSW when I should have been expanding my TSC collection. Though I have been gradually adding to my Victory and Matrix content. For the player train I will just sub with RW Tools or via the editor and for AI just use the F2 save trick to get past any missing items.

    Looking forward to seeing where else you might take the route in the future - maybe the Fairford branch or part of the SMJ across from Kineton to Blisworth and Olney and Stratford. Thanks again.
     
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    This is a wonderful route and one of my favourite TSC routes, very atmospheric and so varied too. I am looking forward to getting the new Digital Traction GWR railcar at the weekend to run on some of the branch lines.

    I would love to see the Fairford branch, one I have always wanted to see recreated in TSC.

    Thanks for all the work you have put into this route.
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    It is the route which has really weaned me off TSW for the time being.
     
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    Is the Signal at Danger even though you had a Clear Distant or, was it like the German Shunting, where you chose to ignore a Red Signal?
     
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    I couldn’t be sure as I didn’t see any signal at danger. From what I can recall any distant running into Reading were “off” so no warning to expect a signal at danger. I will have to repeat driving from a diesel, see if there is a shunt signal at danger which tripped me up.
     
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    It is definitely addictive. It is going to fun trying out Bossmans castle on it when it releases. Hopefully the GWR 455 and 517 class on Caledonian works roadmap will come to fruition one day, those with the Matrix trains 4 wheelers will look great on some of the branch lines.

    I am still using TSW but I still find for period stuff TSC is so far ahead and I am spending a little more time on it than TSW.
     
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  9. pgdlrailworksl

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    Thanks. Fairford probably not but a bunch of branch lines are in progress from a different location.

    The next Wycombe update will just be fixes and some simple scenarios for the DT Railcar pack 1 variant.
    If you build your own Railcar scenarios and the driver doesnt show then you probably need to add Kuju/RailSimulator to the scenario's Providers.

    Wear your SPADS as badges of honour. This really isn't the route if you are worried about how the game marks your drive.

    Sometimes I do manage to get the signalman's attention:


    PeterG
     
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    Something I don't do - but then I used to work as Train Crew.

    The new GWR Railcar looks nice.
     
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    It certainly does!

    One of the reasons I'm enjoying this route is that it evokes memories of playing the old SIAM vintage Reading and Oxford traffic simulations years ago.
     
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    Just traversed the DNS section from Newbury to Didcot - excellent!
     
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    Sounds exciting, something to look forward too.
     
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    Further to the SPAD issue, before turning them off I did have another one at Kidlington Junction on the return leg of the Woodstock branch 1400 Class round trip. Departed Kidlington with the road off onto the branch but almost immediately got terminated with a SPAD.
     
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    Please could you kindly share the Link for this route as I would be interested in buying it
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    This is the latest version:
    pgdl.co.uk/vpris

    It is freeware apart from dependencies.

    The one at SSS is the old V4 which has been superceded by the above.
     
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    Now if you did not drive past Signals that mean Stop you would not have that problem.
     
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    Once again you are not getting it. There do not appear to be any visible signals at danger and the distant is clear.

    Oh and in reply to your patronising and pedantic comment yesterday about the German route, I do recall I actually tabbed past the stop signal successfully with the signaller to then end up with the AI collision. As a retired railwayman of over 40 years service, I do kind of know what a signal at danger represents. So please stop treating me like a bloody idiot and if you have nothing constructive to post, then restrain yourself from doing so.
     
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    Thank you muchly, will check it out once I've finished work
     
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    It is very good and I should really update the title of the post to reflect that rather than focus on the SPAD issues.
     
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    Just one little thing I've spotted pgdlrailworksl , the Down Line through Heyford station reverts to a short section of 15 MPH instead of the line speed 75 MPH. Hope you don't mind me mentioning.
     
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    Just because you worked on the railway for over 40 years does not mean you know how the railway operates.

    A chap I know retired railway after 35 years but had not much idea about signals as railway working.
    He worked on a depot repairing trains. Great at fixing DMUs though.

    My retirement certificate shows 44 years on the railway - 1972 -2016
    Which includes 30 years on the operating side, Box Lad, Guard and then Driver.

    When you think that anybody who tried to point something out to you is just being pedantic then its time to Learn.
     
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    Anyone complains about this route, i will be sending the boys around.
    Peter any chance of an extension to Slough please.
    Taplow is a bit of a strange end of line point.
    Vern there are a few places where speed limits change abruptly and change back.
    With the scope of this amazing creation, it must be pretty difficult to get everything spot on.
    I purchased DT's 4-4-0 County and the GWR railcar yesterday. Been having great fun running them on this route.
    The route is head and shoulders above any of DTG's payware routes. Digressing slightly sorry, i spotted LMS NWC on YT yesterday, anyone know of it's state of play, release if any.
     
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    I was musing as to where the new branches might be. The only one missing from any locations on the route, from what I can see (apart from Fairford) would be the Newbury to Lambourne branch. An extension to Slough with the Windsor and Eton branch could be a possibility I would imagine.
     
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    I wouldn't worry Vern, just put the fool on your ignore list the same as i have.

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    Well there is the old mineral branch that ran from just north of Banbury to Wroxton. Then there is the possibility of pushing towards the Great Central from Banbury to Culworth Jn, maybe on to Woodford or Rugby. (I still want to experience Catesby Tunnel in a sim).At Leamington he could go towards Rugby and Daventry. That would also be nice.
     
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    'The Wycombe Railway and Joint Line Plus 5.2' update is now available.
    This latest version includes simple scenarios for Digital Traction's GWR Railcar packs 1 and 2,
    scenery tweaks to the Thame Branch and various other fixes.
    More details and free download from http://www.pgdl.co.uk/vpris

    Digital Traction

    https://digitaltraction.co.uk/products/dt-gwr-railcar-pack-1-1940s-razor-edge/

    (The 2 videos are here if they don't show below: http://www.pgdl.co.uk/vpris)
    Railcar scenarios video:



    Oxford to Princes Risborough video
     
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    (Slightly off-topic here, hope you all will forgive)

    Vern, if you enjoyed those Clive Heard routes you'll get a bang out of a Stanley Brown-designed activity for Mick Clarke's original MEP. It's called "Orchestrating the Kings Cross Ballet" and has, thanks to Eric Olesen riding to the rescue and culling so much of the UKTS file library to trainsim.com, been preserved for all to enjoy. The title of the activity is "sb_Orchestrating the KX Ballet" and the file id is 37688.

    When the author used the term "ballet" he wasn't kidding: the continuous stream of passenger services in and out of KX is nothing short of phenomenal, and it all works seamlessly. Only for OpenRails.
     
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    I will grab that, thanks!
     
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