Free Roam is more stable than any other change to TSW, except for the livery designer 2.0 which apparently is pretty good.
Yet you can even create your own timetable service in free roam nor pick up passengers so it's implementation is extremely basic and hardly justifies a new game. On a more general note, livery Designer and Scenario Designer 2.0 aren't new features. They are updates to already existing features in the game. Not to mention that there are those not interested in those type of features
I'm aware, I didn't imply that it justifies a new game with an AAA game price, especially in this state.
They will be pausing its time off season. Those fixes will be under the tree or is it the carpet.....If I was DTG I would be looking at the reception to the JT route and making it a be a standard setting. All this BR don't sell stuff.....
The TSW Austrian Regional pack right now costs 36 Euros. EA Sports FC 24 - an AAA game - costs 69,99 Euros. How exactly is your maths to justify your stated "fact" that TSW costs as much as an AAA game?
Yeah, its like FIFA will includes only 1 league for 35.99. With every other leagues separate DLCs for 35.99.
When Sherman Hill was first released, the tracks were also from TSC; but this was changed pretty quickly.
This is my exact same situation - plus Blackpool which I have also purchased; nothing else from TSW4.
Yeah but why would i want to buy also an UK route and an US route if i don't have to? When I'm only interested in german/central european routes, i can get this game with the configuration i want. And that's just the reality - i don't have to pay more than i "want". But with the AAA Fifa, i buy all or nothing. So my point still stands: Claiming you have to pay for TSW the same amount of money as for an AAA game is - in this way - wrong.
My issue is that I do not want ECML I dont really see the appeal of it personally (Modern high speed one handle electrics aren't my thing) and the FS physics seem more broken than the other steam locomotives at the moment (which is saying something) and as such I don't think I'd enjoy it which is a real shame. I want Blackpool at some stage because its a work of art and I want to support JT. I feel like DTG knew what they were doing with that though. It's a shame but hopefully we'll get a Christmas sale on TSW4 or another package with a different route at some stage.
Only reason I bought TSW4 was Blackpool on the horizon although the editors and free roam mode are a welcome addition.
It’s a bit of a shame DTG and JT couldn’t agree to make BPO a starter pack, giving the base game with the route. That might even convince me to jump on board the PS5 version to complement the PC.
And the only reason I bought TSW4 was to get the NYT timetable and patches as I doubt they'll ever come to TSW3. Any interest I had in the three TSW4 routes has been very short- lived, too many issues in each of them. And the so-called new features in TSW4 have turned out to be underwhelming. Still, there is Blackpool, which makes up for some of the shortcomings.
Strange, I was actually really pumped for all three pre release but having played a bit on each they all lost their appeal very quickly. ECML because of the Azuma sounds. Vorarlberg turned out to be an extended stop/start bus service. AVL, again stopping all stations every few miles on the LA outskirts got tedious very quickly.
I spent over a decade listening to "steam doesn't sell" from DTG in reference to TSC. And yet somehow I managed to make a living from it. I wonder how I did that?
What does that even mean? It has nice freight services as well as long distance trains. It's very enjoyable.
Exactly what I said. Most of the runs I’ve done in Journey mode are all stations averaging about 3km between stops. Gets a bit tedious. The Vectron is nice I admit but the route would have benefited from being set in an earlier period with loco hauled trains rather than a rather bland EMU. I don’t mind bus service type runs but needs to be interesting traction.
Ah that was your point. Now i got it. Personally I'd always prefer loco hauled trains over MUs. But I think modern stuff sells better because especially younger audience is probably more into the trains they know than trains from the past. Though with BRO anb Left Rhine DTG finally dived into older stock. The next few german locos and routes will show if these decisions were good for them on a financial basis. Which I personally very much hope. *Dreaming about a 120 and IC Cab car or BR 111*
What fool made this statement? Not having counted them, but I'm under the impression there's an equal amount of steamers as there are Diesels on the TSC store
Perhaps THEIR steam doesn't sell 4 locos in TSW and all have physics problems, routes empty and forgotten, no wonder people dislike this. Really interested in how Ty2 will behave when it is released for Simrail. It will definitely be put into comparison with DTG stuff.
I think the business model is one train per route and be greatful. They have tried to push this as what the community wants. Why create routes that are completely devoid of trains is beyond me as route creation isn't quick. But they say trains aren't either. That's a fundamental problem as tradition shows more trains per route the better....
Sure, absolutely! I'd love to have that again. The last german route with two new locos was Main-Spessart Bahn. But: More development costs means prices have to go higher. There is more work involved, so more costs. Would you pay more that the usual? Maybe YOU would. I as well. But I'm sure the vast majority - who is not here in the forums - just sees "oh it's more expensive now? I'm not buying it". We tend to think: Higher quality of routes --> higher sales. But as already Maik Goltz pointed out - that's sadly not the case. At least he has empirical data which doesn't back that.
I do think that JT last route sells better that its DTG counterparts (not counting the routes bundeled within TSW4 'new' game. Maik Goltz addons are quite niche despite their quality i hadnt bought them. If JT route was on TSW 3 i would buy it even at fulll price, someting i never do with DTG. Of course that only me... And maybe (probably ?) DTG buisness model is better ( less investing in a route even if sells mild is probably better than more investing for more sells) Something we will not be allowed to know.
If the route is dull or over with after a few repeat runs and forgotten about then was it worth the dev effort to build? Are trains driving what routes get built or is the route the main thing. Blackpool shows up BCC and CC for example as at least Preston is close to how it should be.
Well I've never driven beyond the required tutorial, but I've spent 220+ hours signalling and it's far from empty. Go run the box at Sosnowiec Główny or Grodzisk Mazowiecki, they are non-stop. I would think the traffic quantity is realistic for the route. Large stations are often busy with multiple arrivals and departures. When you're on a stretch of country 2 track you don't go past a train every 2 minutes in the real world either.
