Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - December 2023

No American teasers? Cmon bruh don’t leave us out like that

 

The Goblin Line, interesting

 

Wow BR Green is really happening
Also, WSR actually looks pretty impressive

 

Would have preferred it with the 172 ngl

 

I'm not sure these are teasers or hints, more like announcements
Interested to see the overhaul of WSR and Peak Forest, please, please tell us it comes with manual fireman and better steam physics!

 

So the Editor improvements are delayed even more? And what about the fixes for the Desiro Classic?

 

Mmmh interesting to see WSR improved ! Have you find a way for the vacuum brakes of the 104 to be easier to use ? When driving with the 101 I find the lever to be too slow to use, it makes the train not like-able to use and God knows I like that DMU.

 

A shame there haven't been a teaser for the next US route in that mystery pile (probably for the best, honestly). But do like West Somerset is getting a big improvement on scenery, and having a steam timetable the route truly deserves, can't wait to try that puppy out.

 

Nice to see an Overground line, although I must confess that I was hoping for bigger scale for the UK route, also considering DTG made a point of wanting to do something different than commuter routes for UK stuff in their TSW 4 reveal, that seems to have U-Turned quickly.

The 710 is certainly unique though, I think a 378 would have been a better choice for future & wider layering elsewhere, and I am saddened that we won’t get the 172 for this one (the 150&172 era would of been nice to capture). I suspect this will also mean we get yet another class 66 too?

Overall, as a concept I’m not too sure, another short, commuter based AC route isn’t really what we needed IMO.

The 104 is very interesting though, very excited to see that.

 

Looking forward to the the Goblin line.
However it should be longer and start at say Willesden Junction with some of the North London line included.
At least it's a self contained route which should have plenty of Freight trains running on it.
Mike.

 

The Goblin Line? Have you gone Barking mad?

Someone had to say it. I’ll get my coat.

 

The update for West Somerset Railway looks great! Good job on that. Old routes really deserve some love and this one looks like a worthy update. I do hope more like this will follow in the future.

Of course, parts of me is sad because no way US content is ever going to get the same kind of treatment, probably... Nothing shows the lack of care for US content more than the fact that there wasn't even any US teasers, despite the route coming in apparently less than 3 months.

 

How Long is WSR Route Expansion?
Finally DB BR 111

 

Great roadmap I guess. Personal plus points:

- Cologne-Aachen timetable moved to be released sooner or later.
- the new german route looks interesting. with the class 111, huh? nice choice I guess. but that aint a teaser thats just throwing away the surprise and telling us what the route will be right away.
- the suspension update videos look bouncy. I like it
- PC editor issues acknowledged: missing cooking feature and disappearing FRM/RVV/RVD files when reopening the editor.

and some negative points:
- austrian loco removed. whats uuup???
- formation planner still takes a while. I understand it about the suspension improvements, but formation planner? I thought it was done already!
- uhh

 

I’m not gonna lie I’m glad they’ll give us the 710 and not the 378. Personally I think we had seen enough time the Electrostar on TSW.

 

This roadmap isn't a bad one with the 104 being the absolute highlight announcement along with the extra freight and 'busyness' with the much needed revamping of the timetable. All that route will be missing now is a 45/0, varieties of coaching stock and perhaps a 25. Really am looking forward to this, so good on Simtrack and hope all goes well.

The route reveal was a bit of a let down and nothing to get excited about as it is just another modern electric commuter route, though the Aventra model itself may be a useful one to have in game. I think it will be unlikely I buy it, as EMU commuter driving has been done to death in TSW and it is no more exciting than it looks in real life! Above I see someone mention 172s running on it and I think even just going back to then may have swayed me to buy it.

The WSR update seems to look spectacular and will hopefully breathe a bit more life into that route as the scenery there in real life is lovely and so to see this even better represented would be nice. The added GWR services are good, though I am unsure why a Regional Railways 150 is being used as not only is the livery wrong but the 150 is one of the worst sounding units we've got. Is there a reason a 166 wasn't used? Although I am not a fan of the GW kettles I do think this route is strange without them and certainly has been asking for a manor or prairie since day 1, so hope this could be a stepping stone. Certainly a big thumbs up to whoever had this idea.

I think another mention should just be given to the great work Adam and co at Skyhook have done to improve MML and I look forward to what they could have up their sleeves too.

If you read all of that I can only apologise as I had only planned to do a couple of sentences so there is likely a fair bit of rambling! I just want to finish by saying that I do hope that the less frequent updates will be effective and when released don't break things which weren't broken in the first place as that is good for absolutely no one. Look forward to the stream and do hope that a 45/0 will appear on Peak Forest with the 104 at some point to really finish that route off!

 

So the Goblin is coming to TSW with a Class 710, not bad.
An update to WSR was probably the one thing a was least expecting but it good to see the route get some love.

I also didn't see any mention of suspention physics in the article, that's not a positive sign

 

Suspension physics are for Part 2 sometime (most likely never) in the new year.

 

I must say the WSR remastered by the pictures is going to be great nice to see an older route get some attention also looking forward to the 104 coming to peak forest

 

I'm looking forward to driving the 710 on this route.... Wait a minute doesn't the 710 run on the Watford DC Lines?(ESPECIALLY on the Part from Harrow and Wealdstone to Queens Park?)

 

Mostly good stuff on here. Goblin line is cool.

WSR Remaster yes please. PFR new timetable and 104 are a day-one for me. It's a great route IMO.

The improved water effects have me hoping they have something big planned for whatever this US route is (Pacific Surfliner?).

Honestly it needs to be something really impressive since there's nothing exciting for fans of US content right now.

 

There were two WIP videos that looked pretty good. I'd rather they get it right than rush it. As long as it still comes this winter i'm ok there.

 

Good news we have a 104 coming, shame a Green 45 is not coming with it yet but hopefully it's planned for the future.

Nice surprise that WSR is being updated, didn't see any mention of PIS though, would like to see those boards with handwritten style times on them. Hopefully NTP will one day get the same treatment as that's very much in need of some love

Goblin Route? Meh - if another Southern route had to be done, please please make sure the next one is slamdoors and thumpers

 

I thought the Goblin route on TSC was really good, I guess this is going to be much better. Looking forward to this and the Class 104.

 

Excellent roadmap.

Class 104 DMU the highlight for me. Of course not just Peak Forest but it can layer into BPO, with a blue reskin. Also ready and waiting to drop in a future retro version of part of Birmingham - Leicester - Cambridge/Norwich. Day One purchase.

Goblin Line - seems a bit short on its own. Could the "tease" be we are also getting the NLL from Richmond to Stratford as well? As someone already mentioned ultra modern maybe not the best choice. Too much to hope for 80's era but the 172 in TSC was quite a nice train to drive, albeit you never really get up any speed and it's a bit of a bus stop route.

German/Austrian route - loco hauled and a DB 111 so that's going on the shopping list.

WSR overhaul very welcome though a GWR steam pack with a Hall and maybe Pannier tank (along with physics improvements) would be even better.

USA - well nothing seems to have been teased on that so guess we shall see.

Better start ferreting away the pocket money to grab a few more Steam Wallet gift cards, while Asda and Sainsbury still have them in stock.

 

Mostly good stuff on the roadmap. Interesting that the Goblin line with the Aventra is coming to the game.

 

The first two correspond to remade TSC Routes future TSW 4 routes Gospel Oak Barking and Rosenheim Salzburg 3rd one Derwent Valley Line Class 104 DMU. For the Union Workshop route, my guess is Hong Kong Shenzhen Guangzhou HSR featuring TSC CRH380 CRH1E Sleeper CRH2 and CRH3 which itself counts towards HMA ICE3 achievements same way as SFS Hannover Wurzburg version counts to HMA ICE3. Another one is the Hong Kong Guangzhou conventional line that brings TSC HXD1 HXD2 to the game with the MTR Metro Cammell EMU AC and R stock SS8 loco. Think of the Hong Kong section as your BCC/EDN AWS TPWS route with an Asian flavour while CTCS is used from Shenzen Lo Wu to Guangzhou. At a push, Rosenheim Salzburg can be extended to Altnang Puchenheim or Linz on the SFS Salzburg Wien Westbahn. If that were to happen it becomes SFS Linz Rosenheim with 182 derivative 1016/1116 running Railjet Wiesel Dosto and Nightjet trips. Which includes the Kalman Imre Sleeper train from Stuttgart to Budapest Keleti via HMA and Salzburg Rosenheim.

 

Just what I was thinking Scorp, green peaks on the London-Manc expresses would be the bees knees!

 

Hmmm.....

Class 104 DMU - I think we ignore the 323 and let THIS be the true test to see simtracks talents.

Goblin Line - Intresting route - But likely won't buy because - I. HATE. AVENTRAS.

German Route: despite being 1/4 german I don't really care much for german railroads unless there backdated but even then not realy. SKA is fun but thats it.

WSR overhaul: Don't own this route but after seeing this might pick it up in the next sale.

 

Well, the 104 is welcome and long overdue. Other than that, I don't really see much. Yet another London-based, one-handed commuter route ( yawn ). Not much imagination in route selection these days, is there?

And no excitement for US/Canadian players. We're definitely at the back of the line these days.

 

After suggesting the goblin line a few months back, really happy to see this included and may actually give me a reason to purchase tsw4

 

To those complaining about the Goblin Line, blame this guy

(Obviously I'm joking)

 

Interesting little fact about the stretch down to Barking Riverside is that you're actually traveling over HS1 before is emerges out of the tunnel at Dagenham, on SEHS you has see where the yard before where the bridge would be.

More importantly, the Berinalinie has got me with mixed feelings, the route looks good from those shots but I'm kinda worried about the Allegra, I know we got a preview not too long ago but I'm still on edge about the quality of it.

 

Agreed, Its one of the main reasons I don't like driving the 101.

 

Weren’t arriva one of the operators that weren’t easy to source licenses for? If so could open a few other routes.

 

If manual firing was coming with either it presumably would have been mentioned, unfortunately.

 

heres my question.... Does the 104 alone mean your BR green for Peak forest signiture is now ticked? Have another one bit the dust?

 

It will yes, though I think it will have to be replaced with something to do with the 45/0, unless they adjust the 45/1 currently in game and add it as a surprise.

 

Yeah yeah to Euston, they might do this line as well, I mean I good part is already “done”

 

Or at least have the section we have into a playable state

 

A 111 will be nice, but we're still waiting for a 140......

 

Improved and with passengers !

 

Surprised no comments on a new country (barely)- Italy.

 

oh right. italy. iiitaaalyyy... the best map in BeamN... oh wait wrong game.

yeah thats interesting but I might wanna pass on that one if you ask me

 

Goblin Line is a nice route to ride (and presumably drive). I presume that this is the Rivet route so I hope it is more IOW remastered and less West Cornwall.
The person who suggested that it starts at Willesden Junction. I believe that the Goblin Line is self contained and no trains on this line originate at Willesden.

It would be nice to have Euston - Watford Junction but I suppose this duplicates the Bakerloo too much.

 

Goblin route a little short.... would rather like to have seen Thameslink, North London Line or GEML. BR 111 ist good news, but I´m not a fan of the route: Salzburg - Rosenheim, Baveria once again. Would like to see other parts of Germany...
BR 104 has been called for from the community... but its for WSR and not Peak Forest?

 

Yes so I'm guessing DTG will have it layer onto the Bakerloo line

 

Since all the teasers were released anyway, clearly that community scenario challenge was pointless

 

There is a weekday morning service that runs from Willsden Junction to Woodgrange park. It skips Gospel Oak though