Route Realistic Wcml Suggestion

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  1. masonh.10

    masonh.10 Active Member

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    Introduction
    This is a realistic WCML suggestion that has a higher chance of being made compared to some posts that suggest things like Euston - Birmingham or every single train that operates on the line (350,221,390,92 etc)

    The Route
    London Euston to Milton Keynes Central
    44 miles (71km)


    Stations
    Number of stations: 14

    Milton Keynes Central
    Bletchley
    Leighton Buzzard
    Cheddington
    Tring
    Berkhamsted
    Hemel Hempstead
    Apsley
    Kings Langley
    Watford Junction
    Bushey
    Harrow and Wealdstone
    Wembley Central
    London Euston

    Trains
    Class 350
    [​IMG]

    AI Trains
    Class 710: For owners of Goblin Line

    Would be seen at Watford Junction, Bushey, Harrow and Wealdstone, Wembley Central and London Euston
    [​IMG]

    Class 377: For owners of London Commuter or East Coastway.

    Would be seen at Hemel Hempstead, Apsley, Kings Langley, Watford Junction, Bushey, Harrow and Wealdstone and Wembley Central.
    [​IMG]

    1972 Bakerloo Line trains: For owners of the Bakerloo Line

    Would be seen between Harrow and Wealdstone and Stonebridge Park
    [​IMG]

    Service Pattern
    2 trains per hour from Euston to Tring
    1 train per hour from Euston to
    Milton Keynes Central
    2 trains per hour from Euston to Birmingham New Street (Service would end at MKC on the game)
    1 train per hour from Euston to Crewe (Service would end at MKC on the game)
     
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  2. TrackingTrains

    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    Good suggestion, but personally I think it'd also be nice to have a train with a full windscreen. Understandably not everything can come, so maybe the voyager or the 390. Personally, I'd prefer the former.
     
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  3. Ferrovipathe67

    Ferrovipathe67 Well-Known Member

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    only 350 nah i think if dtg make the WCML dtg will be make the 390 twoo
     
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  4. masonh.10

    masonh.10 Active Member

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    do I think they should? yes. Do I think they would? no. If they did, I see the 390 coming as DLC the same way as the class 700 came as DLC
     
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  5. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Not including the 390 would be the same as GWE without the HST. Boring.
     
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  6. snappy#2534

    snappy#2534 New Member

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    You'll get a reskinned 801 as the 805/807 probably.
     
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  7. First capital connect

    First capital connect Well-Known Member

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    To be honest I don't know how much the community would enjoy max 25 mins in a 390/221. I do get your point though
     
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  8. Ferrovipathe67

    Ferrovipathe67 Well-Known Member

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    lol it's not possible a reskin the 807/805 are different not the same train that a 801 different LED PIS,CIV and not the same interior it's a different train you can only make (based) your 3d on a 801
     
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  9. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    good suggestion but with the recent release of the ecml with tsw4, I really cant see the western part of it coming anytime soon.
     
  10. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Defiantly Agreeable
     
  11. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    If Your looking for a number 1 to put to that list of enjoying it, look no further, Add me to that list of number 1 cos I definitely will enjoy it
     
  12. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The ECML and WCML are two completely separate routes.
     
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  13. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Or a Class 86/87 and a Class 310 for the local services. Plenty of forward view from those.
     
  14. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    I Know but I'm saying that they just built the east coast, I'm sure it would be a while for the west to come
     
  15. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I like this suggestion but as said, you don't have a wcml without a 390 rlly. It's just not the same.
     
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  16. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    At Aaaaaallllll. I Cant agree more
     
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  17. Ilba8765

    Ilba8765 Well-Known Member

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    Really wonderful suggestion! I like this
    The idea of using different means of transport one map is something we do not have yet, Always been curious to want to know what lies behind Queen's Park . Add the "Watford DC line" Watford Junction to London Euston
    To makes it even more spectacular.
    95 percent of the line is already next to the West Coast Main Line
    So it will only expand even more. With all that effort they can even extend it to the Bakerloo line in an area to remaster the route every outside part of the line will be remade if your suggestion comes up.
     
  18. Javelin

    Javelin Well-Known Member

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    More likely it'll be a similar case as it was with Ecml, we'll get a longer section with only a small number of stations like Preston - Carlisle for example.
     
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  19. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You're probably right on that one.
     
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  20. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah
     
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    This is way too short... London to Rugby via Northampton and the fast lines. That way we can stretch out the 390s and 350s. Can we stop asking for the bare minimum. They will give us the bare minimum and the same people that asked will be complaining. Also you would be pushing your luck if you think DTG would give us the 390 and 350 aswell as a 377/2 or /7
     
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  22. masonh.10

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    Asking for the bare minimum because I highly doubt they would make a long route that comes with 2 new trains. Hence why it’s a realistic suggestion. Would I love London to Rugby with the 350 and 390? absolutely.
     
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  23. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    To Milton Keynes is too short, though, and most Avanti services skip it so its a stupid place to end the route.
     
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  24. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

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    A good suggestion. WCML should the next pick for a mainline in the UK. Although as others have said this is a bit short, you’re not gonna get much out the 390 on this route. I know Birmingham in much further away but it much more of a complete route.
     
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    phillip.good Well-Known Member

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    Cough!!! And Doncaster wasn’t a stupid place to end ECML at all….
     
  26. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no. It should have gone to York.

    At least it makes more sense than ending the WCML at Milton Keynes.
     
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  27. Lil jj

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    no 390?
     
  28. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    its impossible to ever enjoy driving or riding a 221




    (I dont like voyagers)
     
  29. masonh.10

    masonh.10 Active Member

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    If I am DTG, I am adding the 390 as DLC similarly to how the class 700 is DLC for SEHS
     
  30. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    Stop asking for the bare minimum, London to Milton Keynes is absolutely NOT what anyone wants for the WCML. The only logical place to end the WCML is at the least Coventry or Birmingham. If we can’t get the full thing I don’t want it or choose another section
     
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  31. Lil jj

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    interesting.
     
  32. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Not even close.
     
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  33. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Let's say this came to the game, this is something related to the Watford DC line.
    If you have the Bakerloo and then bought the upcoming GOBLIN, do you think it should be possible to drive from Harrow and Wealdstone to Queens Park at the very least?

    Anyways good suggestion I must say
     
  34. darrentee01

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    Some great ideas here,but to do the wcml justice it needs quite alot of rolling stock which dosnt exist at the moment,and also its a very busy route in real life,so would require a really good timetable from the outset,not to say it couldnt be done,live in hope i guess
     
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  35. west coastway trains

    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    If the wcml ever comes to tsw I think it has to include a 390
     
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  36. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Of course it does.

    Not having the 390 on the WCML would be the same as not having the Azuma on the ECML: ridiculous.
     
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    it's reasonable but I would definetely like to see the 390 included as well as the route being extended to rugby or coventry
     
  38. Trainiac

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    This suggestion has a chance of actually being real, let’s see how far DTG have gone with this route…
     
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  39. elarthur

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    Great suggestion, hopefully already in the works. However, the Class 377 needs a new dual voltage subclass as I believe that these are the correct units for these services.
     
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  40. lufthansa24

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    It is a good suggestion however i dont think they would add automated trains for diffrent add ons. it is a good line witch has a potential of being in TSW
     
  41. GooseWaffe

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    it's amazing how well you predicted it
     
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  42. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Ok how did this guy predict perfectly what we'd get??? :o
     
  43. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    So, we know who's fault it is then :D

    (joking, obviously. I'd have actually thought for a flagship route like this they'd include both).
     

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