Route London Underground Hammersmith & City Line

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by superltd#6960, Dec 29, 2023.

  1. superltd#6960

    superltd#6960 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2023
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    21
    INTRODUCTION
    The Hammersmith & City line is a London Underground line that runs between Hammersmith in west London and Barking in east London. It is coloured pink on the Tube map and serves 29 stations over 15.8 miles.

    ROLLING STOCK
    S7 Stock Hammersmith_&_City_line_S7_Stock_2.jpg

    ROUTE & STATIONS
    The route is 15.8 miles long and serves 29 stations. The stations are:

    - Hammersmith
    - Goldhawk Road
    - Shepherd's Bush
    - Latimer Road
    - Ladbroke Grove
    - Westbourne Park
    - Royal Oak
    - Paddington
    - Edgware Road
    - Baker Street
    - Great Portland Street
    - Euston Square
    - King's Cross St Pancras
    - Farringdon
    - Barbican
    - Moorgate
    - Liverpool Street
    - Aldgate East
    - Whitechapel
    - Stepney Green
    - Mile End
    - Bow Road
    - Bromley-by-bow
    - West Ham
    - Plaistow
    - Upton Park
    - East Ham
    - Barking Hammersmith_&_City_Line.png
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 18
  2. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    Lovely suggestion mate I would love to see this in game but since its ATO I don't think it would get added anytime soon
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,587
    Likes Received:
    7,909
    Would be better set before ATO.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    what yr would that be?
     
  5. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,587
    Likes Received:
    7,909
    Not quite sure, but sometime before the S7 Stock was introduced.
     
    • Helpful Helpful x 2
  6. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    558
    Probably around 2016/2017, even then the S-Stock ran for quite a while manually after the C-Stock was withdrawn.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    Oh alright
     
  8. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    Oh wait- you would like like that but i aint sure if i will, lets jus see in the future even if dtg makes it
     
  9. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    558
    The C-Stock is quite similar to the 1972 Stock we have in-game so you can use that as reference to see if you'd like it or not.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  10. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    Oh Ok Yeah Fair enough
     
  11. 390001

    390001 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    2,352
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    CBTC Has been on the line since it stasrted in march 2019 with the section between latimer road and hammersmith it was gradually introduced further into the line in stages after that.
    Very nice proposal however for the last few years the line has run in conjuction with the circle line which is more so known as the T cup. Basically a train will leave edgware road on the inner rail run around the circle via victoria round to liverpool street then head off to Hammersmith. On its return trip the train will then either run to barking via kings cross (10 minute interval) or go back round the circle via kings cross and embankment back up to edgware road again. (10 minute interval) the 2 10 minute interval trips create a combined frequency for 5 minutes between edgware road and hammermith. Trains from barking run directly to hammersmith via kings cross (10 minute frequency)

    hope this makes sense lol
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2018
    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    712
    Very good proposal
     
    • Like Like x 2
  13. Ilba8765

    Ilba8765 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2018
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    608
    Perfect idea!
    Great to see something back in London. Although a C stock would also be fantastic on the Underground line something like a transition year
    C and S stock

    zraezer.jpg
     
    • Like Like x 3
  14. d.heal

    d.heal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2020
    Messages:
    820
    Likes Received:
    851
    Lovely idea but won't come from DTG as they Have a bane of one handle control and 3rd rail ban which might as well say 4th rail aswell
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,587
    Likes Received:
    7,909
    They can't have a ban on one handle control. They've just released the Azuma.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. 390001

    390001 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    2,352
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    and where is your source for this ???

    oh wait you don’t have one.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  17. tyler#1604

    tyler#1604 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2023
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    534
    And the 710 coming
     
    • Like Like x 3
  18. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    837
    Likes Received:
    1,071
    afaik they have a ban on southern routes not 3rd rail and one handle control (Which they really haven't done since we were given ONE northern route which was short, the rest were in the midlands). The 'excuse' for gospel oak to barking riverside coming out is that it is ohle not 3rd rail.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2023
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    535
    and is going to release an aventra
     
  20. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    I would love this route. It is an amazing recommendation. Hopefully it comes to TSW4.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  21. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,127
    Likes Received:
    4,238
    I think having the route set modern day with ATO would be fine. It be optional like LZB for the German routes, if you want to use it go ahead for realism but if you don’t want to you can drive it manually.

    Perhaps JT could make this route since they’ve already done the Metropolitan in TSC
     
    • Like Like x 2
  22. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    I agree. I am sure that some sections would be in manual but I am unsure. I am familiar with the route and I would love to have this is Train Sim world. It does not seem like they have an intention on creating another London Underground route though
     
    • Like Like x 1
  23. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,418
    Likes Received:
    2,337
    any metro line with safety and signalling would be welcome :D ... I mean, Bakerloo line is nice, but since it only has alerter and nothing else, is of no interest to me anymore :) ... I kinda love those safety shenanigans, as those bring excitement to the experience O:)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  24. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    558
    It actually does have a lot more safety systems in reality like approach controlled signals, Correct Side Door Enable (CSDE) and 'sleeping policemen' which make sure the train doesn't crash into the buffers at the end of the tracks, but DTG didn't bother to implement these.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  25. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    558
    I also must say that if DTG's recreation of the Bakerloo Line was a reality then it would be declared unsafe by the Department for Transport and shut down, like seriously no tripc-ck testers, tripc-ck functionality or even emergency tunnel lights, I seriously wonder how they missed out the last part.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  26. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,418
    Likes Received:
    2,337
    personally I would also love any of the complete Vienna U-Bahn lines, preferrably U4 or U6 as those have interesting overground sections... or U2, but only if it included the extension to Seestadt :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  27. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    The Hammersmith and City Line is a great line and it would be a great idea to visit the entire London Underground if visiting London or if you are local.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  28. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,418
    Likes Received:
    2,337
    dont get me wrong, I admire London transport system, just not a fan of its fare system :D ... although, I am aware of the fact that Vienna fare model is not really feasible for most big cities - you just buy a 5.80 € ticket and you're good for the rest of the day till 1am the next day... and you can ride as much as you want on anything travelling within Vienna core zone (as for trains, it applies to anything OBB, not Westbahn or DB)... with 365 € for a yearly ticket (395 if you pay in monthly payments) it is like... damn :D

    and they are now slowly introducing new rolling stock for U-Bahn - partly to test it in service before it goes fully online on the future U5 :) #viennatransportfanboy :D
     
  29. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    I would love this route. It may be slightly easier to produce as it is a single branch. It seems like the sub-surface tube lines are more popular than the deep level underground line which I do not mind since I love the S stock trains
     
  30. steamenthusiast1

    steamenthusiast1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2023
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    59
    The main problem in my opinion with LU lines is the amount of interchanges. For example you can see the central line platform at mile end so would they run AI layer '72 stock there or would they just make it not in use. Either way there would be complaints.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  31. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    I get what you mean however it would be a wasted opportunity if the London Underground was not recreated.
     
  32. steamenthusiast1

    steamenthusiast1 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2023
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    59
    I know, I'm a big fan of the LU but until we can get fully realistic stations (with all trains running) I'd actually rather DTG avoided it.
     
  33. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    They seem to work extremely hard on foreign routes so I am sure that they can put that effort into the London Underground
     
  34. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,587
    Likes Received:
    7,909
    Yet, US routes are of very poor quality.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  35. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2023
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    705
    They work especially hard on German routes. I wish they put the same amount of effort on other routes but I should not complain to much as Dtg work really hard
     

Share This Page