Australian Assets Pack!

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by cityrail-rulez, Dec 21, 2023.

  1. Everyone 'including myself' has been asking for Australian routes! Well, I don't want any Australian routes from DTGs give us assets

    Bridges, track, tunnels, ohws, ground textures, roads, signs, signals and more.. You don't need to give us assets such as locomotives, rolling stock, signs with logos on them, or any other copyright stuff that you 'require a licence' for.

    Even if it's payware, I would be super happy to buy an 'Australian Assets Pack' for TSC! Just so we don't look at UK, US and German assets in Australian routes..

    It would be also, nice if DTGs could provide full tutorials on locomotive scripting for diesels, electric and steam, including rolling stock of all types!

    Or! Help all 3d artist script their locomotives and rolling stock for your confusing buggy/error game.
     
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  2. PhÜnKî_Rø0sTā

    PhÜnKî_Rø0sTā Well-Known Member

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  3. Spikee1975

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    DTG won't do them, forget that.

    The australian train sim community - and you! - should do that, just like the german, italian, french, czech, polish, british and US community are doing most of the assets themselves. DTG can't and won't invest much into content creation in the future, as their parent company is in a lot of financial troubles at the moment.
     
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  4. mindenjohn

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    Explains why all the recent "sales" have been from third parties not DTG themselves (as have all the recent releases for that matter).
     
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    Apart from me and a few others, I'm not sure if TSC has a cult following down here like it does in the big 3 (US, UK, EU). Most aussies are into Trainz or OpenRails, as there's an abundance of Australian content available.

    Side topic, wonder if any of the Trainz content could be converted for use in TSC?
     
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  6. Spikee1975

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    Can't use Trainz content in TSC. Completely different game and file format.

    If there's no australian community, that's not our fault here. :) And probably the reason DTG or its contractors never went there, there's no money to be made down under. And they can only invest manpower in development that pays, as they're a commercial business.
     
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  7. It is certainly possible to use Trainz content in TSC. It's however not possible to import Trainz payware content.

    Same with MSTS, Cities Skylines and Train Fever/Transport Fever models all able to be used in TSC and TSW. You could even use random 3d models found freely online, you could turn an AKM/AK47 into a locomotive in TSC/TSW! It's not that hard.
     
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  8. mindenjohn

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    Why not do so with some freeware? e.g. Open Rails
     
  9. I have added freeware Australian locomotives from MSTS/OpenRails, Cities Skylines into TSC already! The NR Class is from MSTS/OpenRails, the Adelaide Metro 3000/3100 and 4000 Class units including the XPT are all from Cities Skylines

    I was going to add the QR 'Electric' Tilt Train into TSC, but I can't script nothing. So, why bother continuing to add more Australian locos and rolling stock if I can't script them! The QR 'Electric' Tilt Train is from Transport Fever 2, but I would have to obtain the authors permission to distribute the model in TSC, but... I just can't script! I dump all projects of adding Australian locos and rolling stock into TSC...

    Also, I can't just randomly add all models from other games without being able to contact the authors. Some has moved on, some cannot be contacted, some unfortunately has passed away. So, I just can't use whatever I want even if they are freeware!
     
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  10. KrisKol

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    Those Australian "Trainz" lot, are rude, they gate-keep and hoard content, they also bully people on Discord (which is why I stay away from their servers on there).
    They also dont have any Interest in putting their content into TSC, even though there are people like myself and others that are willing to help out.
     
  11. Some of them don't put content into TSC because it's too complicated. When I first brought TSC when it was titled 'TS2019' it took me until it was titled TSC to finally get a locomotive to work in the game, I asked on forums for someone to help 'nobody was clearly that helpful' not even on UKTS. I will be honest, I swore at DTG to provide something that would help and all of a sudden they decided to provide the developer examples, I was excited getting that first Australian locomotive into TSC 'heck I even jumped around with excitement'. Then I'm starting to read on UKTS that scripting was required, I asked people nicely there for help 'NOBODY' came I asked here for help KrisKol and some others offered their help kindly I do appreciate it. But, it seems to me this is the most unhelpful forum in the world same as UKTS.

    Trainz forums is more helpful, Railpage is more helpful!
    Overall, I wouldn't HATE TSC or DTG if they just simply provide video or screenshot tutorials explaining everything into full details. Or just give us Australian content.. It is a 'Train Simulator' game right? I could understand it the game was titled 'UGU TS' UK-German-US Train Simulator then I wouldn't had wasted money on buying the game!! Australians and other people asking for content deserves to have THEIR MONEYS worth in TSC/TSW
     
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  12. Spikee1975

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    The conditions are the same for every content creator. The information's all out there on the net.

    Matt Peddlesden has done a lot of scripting tutorials on his YT channel. You can find the full list of scripting syntax on the net. The logic is fully up to you.

    The base script you're needing is just the Update loop. The rest depends fully on you and what you want. Smoke emitters, cab lights, complex controls. Study other locos. AP's scripts are a good source as they are uncompiled. Also some german signal scripts. Browse your assets.

    Maybe you're not getting help because of your attitude. DTG do not have to create australian stuff, because it won't sell. Look at what the community did for all countries not represented by DTG DLC. All using the same information and tools.

    So if you constantly blame others or DTG, you're just getting put on the Ignore list by many members instead of constructive help.

    So, enjoy your Trains with a zee.
     
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  13. KrisKol

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    That kind of response is what makes people ANGRY, and then see things that way. Its not helpful.
    I know I dont like it.
     
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  14. I have checked all my assets and I don't find any blueprints or scripts decompressed so I could view them? Yet alone, I don't even know how to decompress everything so I could in fact read scripts from other locomotives/rolling stock to learn it.

    I asked nicely! Many times over and over and not one helped. So yes, I get impatient and angry. It's called being human!

    Australian content would sell like sausages at a Bunnings barbeque! Trainz does have Australian payware content and it sells.. DTG just makes the 'poor' excuse of requiring a licence to avoid making anything Australian. Yes, you only need a licence for logos and liveries 'THAT'S IT' nothing else! You can model the Sydney Harbour Bridge and release it as part of a Australian Assets Pack, it's just a bridge NOT required to have any sort of licencing..
     
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    And you say that it's Poms wot whinge!!!
     
  16. Spikee1975

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    You don't have to - it's my opinion and it stands.

    I don't like people stating the forum wouldn't be helpful, which it is. It is very helpful.

    I don't like people constantly bashing DTG because they don't do DLC you want. There's more than a hundred countries NOT featured here, not only yours.

    I don't like people dismissing this game and constantly telling how great Trainz is, well go play it and have fun.

    I like people who get moving and just do stuff. Get a camera and make the textures yourself, if you're actually living in Australia.

    Look at what the Indian Train Simulator scene has done. Completely ignored by DTG, they've created all themselves. If there's no australian scene - who's to blame?

    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

    Happy new year!
     
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  17. KrisKol

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    I am not "bashing DTG" or any of the other things you mention.
    The guy is frustrated because its hard to get DEM imported for Australia into TSC, when there is no tool to help import the modern formats. he is doing his bit, as Am I.
    It is pretty frustrating.
    And I dont think there is any point in explaining exactly what the problem is, because you will probably personally attack me.
    Get the whole story first before attacking.
    Happy New Year!
     
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  18. Spikee1975

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    I was not referring to you, it's the OP who's bashing DTG and the community constantly.

    I'm not attacking anyone, and I've followed the OP's posts long enough to get the picture. He's been rude many times. And this is about assets, not terrain data, which also isn't DTG's fault.

    Discussing is not attacking, I didn't accuse you of attacking me just because you said you don't like my opinion, which is just fair.

    And if you like it or not - the community has to provide australian content.

    The chances DTG would do this are just very minimal (as they're not producing any content atm.)

    I recently downloaded a fine Italian route, SFM Torino. All assets done by the italian community. They're not complaining.

    I haven't managed to build a route yet myself. But I'm not blaming DTG - I blame it on myself, because I'm just not good at that. Fair enough.
     
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  19. Well, Aussies has a fair share at whinging too!
     
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  20. Johnno124

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    This guy has a habit of bashing anyone who tries to help, I have tried helping multiple times and just got a rude response back. Would think that someone who wants help would actually appreciate people trying.
     
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