How Many Miles Of A Route Would You Like To Have

As others have said,
It all depends.

A 2 - 3 hour route on the Far North, Kyle or West Highland line would be fantastic, and something of a dream for me.

A similar timed route on a main line? Not my thing, might even be a pass. Long distances between stops on fast train i find incredibly dull.

I'm a fan of the shorter stop start commuter lines or ones like MML where there is a decent gap between stations.
BCC on the other hand is just too many stations too close together and it feels like half the time is spent stationary

 

Yesss some long middle of the nowhere routes in wales or scotland would be amazing

 

It's no accident that Dresden-Riesa, BML and SEHS+ are some of the highest-rated routes in here

 

A Highland route in Scotland would be amazing with the new mountain texturing they have in TSW4......

I think it will happen within 24 months or so. It has to be on the cards.

As well as West Coast Main Line over Shap with branches as in TSC and Western Lines of Scotland.

I would like to see a Paris to Rennes LGV route, it will be very long. But LGV traffic shouldn't be too demanding on resources. I think there is less traffic than on the Tokaido Shinkansen. Now that will be a huge test for TSW4 performance and the requirements may be high for that. But another Shinkansen south of Osaka or north of Tokyo should be more performance friendly. Still would love to see the Section between Nagoya and Tokyo. That would be EPIC. More than EPIC. Nothing could ever beat that.

Route length?

Well I think DTG have got the maths right so far.

Many are wanting routes that are 30 minutes in duration because of our busy lives.

Cajon Pass is 2 hours long. 85 miles (135km) long. It's not too short nor not too long.

Paris to Rennes is 354km by road. Might be very similar for the LGV/TGV.

I would love to see a US freight route that isn't a mountain pass and isn't multi track. Just a single track with crossing loops. More fun. About 100 miles would be excellent.

But as we saw with ECML, the longer the route, the more work that needs to go in for scenery. The scenery in ECML is brilliant. They might be extending it secretly. Unsure if they are putting a branch in.

You could make an Australian Nullabor route of 250km but the drawbacks are it will be boring with maximum 10 trains (on busy day!) and minimum zero trains on quiet days. The good thing is performance wise it would be acceptable.

But in terms of the market which is going to determine DTG's production focus, they will want to produce something more exciting.

So it will be up to 3d artists and railfans etc to make the more boring freight routes if they so desire.

It might come down to making 3d models freeware and putting them on a warehouse in the internet and allowing people to use them for making their own routes which they can share with others.

Also a warehouse of 3d items could offer a creative membership plan where for $10 a month you can get items built for your route. Such as 100 points for the Month and then could get a house for 150 points for example.

Back to route length.....

I can't complain I'm happy with the decisions by DTG so far.

There was talk Maintalbahn might be extended as well depending on the uptake of it. I'd love that!

But after running on single line routes in Germany I think it is good to return to the bread and butter and get some more mainlines built like Berlin Leipzig (Wittenberg) as in TSC and was epic in the scenery detail in TSC.

 

BCC, Cathcart Circle and Bakerloo are some of my favourites. The frequent stopping is a lot of fun! Challenging, have to concentrate.

However the Midland Mainline is one of my favourites too as it has lots of variety and it reasonably flat yet quite a rural route with some industry.

Will be great to buy the next installments between Leicester and London and Sheffield and Derby and Nottingham to???

 

How about the Severn Valley or Nene Valley about 18-8 miles respectively, couple of the shorter routes.

 

I have always thought about 10 mile is the sweet spot for heritage lines, especially after WSR. NVR would also come with the added benefit of having some rather interesting stock, though another that although closer to 5 mile but with interesting scenery and stock is the NNR.

A range of possibilities.

 

Your suggestions are way too long for tsw. If dtg only worked on that and had all the devs work on it, you would only get like 1 route every 2 years

 

Reading via Didcot via OXford via Banbury via Leamington finally Coventry ( or BNS ) with choice of Passenger Chiltern ,CrossCountry, GWR , Freight ..EWS, GBRF, Freightliner, Colas .

 

Was going to say the same thing. The team take long to make routes as it is with the editor and stuff and also could the game engine really handle a long route. I feel they pushed it far with SEHS and the extension they added.

 

Sorry I dont know how to specifically quote parts but a 30 minute route is [EDIT - Jan - Language]. If the route lengths were passable this thread wouldnt be a thing. DTG and Rivet cut off their routes in the most random places most of the time where it doesnt make sense. Im sorry but I dont want a 30 minute jaunt on an ICE 3 i want atleast 90 minutes. Kassel - Wurzburg is long and boring 3 stations and 97% of the route is viaducts and tunnels.

 

I got simrail recently a 300km route multiplayer and funny part of it all. Not a micro stutter in sight and looks frigging amazing.

 

Id honestly love a long route like the whole of the Chatham Main or smth but its never gonna happen. I dont know what TSW is built on but it barely handles 180mph on a 100 mile route that is just tunnels and viaducts

 

Train Sim classic had so much stuttering with the LGV Marseille high speed route. And the graphics were very poor.

The high speed routes in Train Sim World smash stuttering out of the park.

What I mean is the performance is very good, even on a medium spec machine.

 

TSW engine cant handle 180mph, the scenary loads after my train has passed

 

If it wasn't multiplayer, sign me up.

 

Distance doesn’t matter a whole lot to me; I’m more concerned with playtime. I just don’t have the time to run anything much longer than one hour at a time anymore. 30 to 45 minutes is my sweet spot until save game can be trusted.

Obviously this is all very subjective as I used to have more time on my hands but I’m glad I do have a plethora of 30-45 minute options.

I also understand generally wanting routes to have a true to life terminus or two but I’m not quite as rigid as some folks are. I still have solid experiences with MML and PFR despite the terminus situation on those routes.

I think the cream of the crop will generally have true termini plus branches but obviously not every release can meet these requirements.

Niddertalbahn is an example of a route that we say we don’t want (one new loco, pretty one dimension route, single track mainline, not particularly busy) but it actually turned out to be a great experience… so I can generally be open minded to a variety of route options.

With that in mind, a high speed ice route should probably be covering a lot of distance otherwise what’s the point.

 

well yea, tsc uses a decade old game engine that doesn't take advantage of modern technology and hardware. Some routes are better optimized, some are not. Tsw on the other hand uses modern technology and takes advantage of modern hardware allowing for better performance, but it is still not as great as other games I have played that can run much smoother and with no stutters compared to tsw even on max settings. Tsw isn't perfect.

 

i will say one thing the multiplayer is actually really really good have not had one troll on it

 

I ,admit it would be a long drive , but it could be done in stages after all there is a WCML from London Euston to BNS as well as BMS to London Marylebone.

 

I was just saying, you really didnt have to respond like that...

 

for me? way too long

On bakerloo, I can agree, but on BCC? The requirement levels are just too high for me, but i just say to myself, its vareity of uk mordern routes so why not give it a go, but i always pass red signals ,skip stops and yeah the power handle sensetivity is wayy too high for me on that 323

its your preference mate

 

Theres 0 reason on BCC to be skipping stops and spading, first of all the most you will ever get up to on BCC is 90 and that is for a short period of time between Longbridge and just after Barnt Green. Second of all, AWS exists and so do signals so unless you are dense you would slow down when you see a double yellow and a single yellow?? Your excuse for not driving BCC is because you dont know the basics of english, scottish and welsh railway systems

 

well tpws also takes control over my train for a long time when i get tp a double yellow and i'm not really familar with the 323 and also its my choice at the end of the day

 

If you're getting TPWS alerts you're obviously going too fast.

 

I know, i always press the tpws override [EDIT - Jan - Off Topic, Argumentative]

 

How many more threads do the two of you want to derail? Use the Private Conversation function!

 

i mean before you guys say thats MY Problem then i said what i said i never meant it as your
problem
You have misintepreted me

 

Back to the topic in hand for me if its a high speed run i would rather have a nice long drive on it to really get the feel of the high speed rather than going high speed for a few minutes. The shorter commuter routes i am not to fussed about as a short commuter route which may only be a few miles can take anything from 30 minutes to 1 hour to complete depending on the stopping pattern. It is trying to find that balance to please many rather than a few that DTG need to try and find and stick at that.

 

Well I just bought South West Expressway for TSC in the sale and I’m really looking forward to setting up a scenario where I can run the Gordon Mack GWR coaches with the Victory County Class steam loco from Exeter to Reading via Westbury. According to Timetable World that’s around 3 hours based on the 1964 timetable. Not all in one hit obviously but gives a sense of purpose and achievement.
Likewise several other routes in TSC offer a fulfilling length of run - Bristol to Swansea, Newport to Shrewsbury, the various WCML sections, West Of Scotland even Weardale. Those routes are largely complete and run between logical places too. We need to see TSW following that example, in tandem with improvements to the save game including more than one slot, to service the longer runs.

 

Don’t forget NVR also has the branch line connection to Orton Mere Station which is located just south of Peterborough station so you can move locos from the mainline

Also has an HST and a Pacer!

 

Oh believe me, on this form, people will even complain about things they like.
It's a wonderful, logic-less place here

Western lines of scotland/ port road what ever you know it by, was one of my favourite routes.
I wish it would make a return! Either steam or modern day

 

Yes, I don't believe they use it in their day to day running though. HST, Pacer and most importantly a Peak all reside there currently along with some steam locos, so a nice mix of stuff.

 

I just finished a run From Kirkudbright to Carlisle with a Fowler Four F with a train of vans In TSC about an hour ago. A very enjoyable experience it was too.

 

Are you running DX12 and have you tried using the stuttering fix posted here in the forums?

And you have a video card of at least 1650 or similar Radeon?

 

Then something's wrong with your setup.

Using GodMode, I can sprint down the line at 1,000 km/h and scenery still loads in fine. UE4's asset streaming is pretty good.

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/definitive-stutter-fix-via-engine-ini-settings.70559/

 

The answer to this really lies with the speed of the unit, obviously 100 miles for trains like the Azuma, but less miles for a slow stopping service like steam or the London Overground.