Dtg Are We Waiting For Tsw5

I like TSW for the 24 hour timetable.

If that didn't exist, I probably wouldn't buy into it.

 

completely agree their, Passengers for one are forever broken on TSW3, and currently on TSW4, which one do people buy into for that fixed…

and will the issue xbox players been experiencing for a while (Z-Fighting) be fixed with TSW4 or do I and others have to sit it out, as they may one day patch it out in TSW9… I suppose if it only affects 1 player base it can be better swept aside…

personally I ain’t buying any more dlc until (“unless”) Z-Fighting is sorted, I’ve got most dlc so I’ve spent quite an amount just for it to be plagued with that issue, i ain’t interested in more content with the same issues, I’ve barely been on TSW4 lately tbh cause of that same issue, it’s just not a good thing to say the least.

 

no I don't believe this utter trash and Yep Those people are just toxic Point blank

 

Very unblameable Point here, The state of passengers should have been on the release on tsw3, the only thing I will spend is just 20 quid on the upcoming goblin line cos its local to me, I Live about 30 mins from barking so anything other dlc's they're planning to make can go away
Well..... That's even if the goblin line is more than 20 quid, which I hope not, cos I see it the same way I see glossop line

 

What platform did you get the game for free?
I picked it up day one on the Xbox One, and it was £39.99 if I remember correctly.

 

DTG have to pay Microsoft and Sony a cut for their game and dlc to be sold on those platforms.
Blame the cost of living for no free upgrades.
I’ve said this many times before, but for me personally, buying a new version of TSW that comes with 3 routes is still a bargain in my eyes.
If you’re someone who only buys one country route add-ons, then I guess it would be a hard sale.

 

yea definitely always liked the bundle, was shocked they did a deal like that the first time I was here for it.

 

I agree, it’s well worth the money when you think of it like one route at 30 quid x3.
That’s the counter argument i always made when people would rip into TSW4, and they could never answer it. The only thing they’d say is we’re getting a buggy version of the game, but when has “any version” of TSW been bug free.

 

yea I agree there, rather regrettable they’ve all had a bug reputation, i do wish that wasn’t the case and hope some good crackdowns on bugs could help dispel that notion.

 

I just hope we get UE5 for TSW5. I remember they said on a stream when they first revealed the spirit of steam that UE5 was coming in 2 years... which would have been TSW4 at the time, but I guess not.

 

You're not going to see UE5 on TSW. It would be a completely new game.
UE5 would require every single route and asset to have some work done to them, which would be a massive , time consuming task, for no extra profit. The only way we see UE5 is if they release a completely new product, that discards all of the previous content.

 

If I had a penny every time someone mentioned TSW on UE5, I'd be rich.

 

I take it you'd be fine with losing all existing content then?

 

Speaking of broken DLCs, why do all of the DLCs from TSW2 look like they were cursed by a witch to be as dark and sad as possible? I open up WSR at 10:00 and it's just as dark as 17:00 or 7:00. Also, the NY-Trenton NJ transit trains only display "TRAIN" in their destination thingy, so good luck if you are trying to get from Penn to Trenton using a single train in On-Foot mode!

 

-"You can't get everything for free!"
-"But I wanted the full Berninalinie with the Allegra and RhB Ge 4/4 III, not a knock-off of the route that ends 3/4 of the way to St. Moritz and only includes ONE form of motive power... not to mention the route being made by Rivet Games!"

 

The game is still playable, so not broken. Night lighting as a whole is one of the weak points of tsw

 

Rivet aren't a giant team compared to dtg so seeing multiple rolling stock is rare. Rivet are also a business and have to release content at some point. If they had made the whole bernina line, then corners might end up being cut to meet the deadline. It's a lot of work to build track and scenery. It's unfortunate but that's how a business works. You can't always have everything.

 

Theres no garuntee that 1 of the 3 routes offered will appeal to every customer. ECML appealed to me and now I dont even play it. I would have been happy sticking with TSW3 because as a console player ive not noticed a single difference

 

TSW2020 was a free upgrade for TSW1.

Train Simulator had a recent major update which was free.

Only if it's optional. If you want fixes and upgrades for content you own, it isn't optional. This is why the reaction to TSW4 was so negative.

 

So you're saying it's perfectly acceptable to cut a route in half.

 

Imo if that's the case they should've chosen a route they could actually complete in reality, there are plenty out there.

 

To be fair, the Bernina Line in TS was also cut in half, just at a more sensible place.

 

Just Trains is even smaller than Rivet

 

As long as it ends somewhere sensible, it doesn't matter.

But in TSW it won't.

 

Ruhr-Sieg Nord is explicitly half a route, says so right on the tin, and still considered one of the best in TSW (if a little short by modern standards)

 

I think by now DTG know we expect routes to end somewhere sensible. RSN can be excused due to its age and its still a decent length.

 

TSW2020 also did not add anything to the game other than a rename and a pretty new splash screen. There was nothing added under the hood such as an UE upgrade as the subsequent main games did. TSW CSX:HH, TSW and TSW2020 were all essentially "TSW1"

 

Well, actually, behind Finnentrop there's a neutral OHLE section (around km 63,1), so it seems to make some sense to cut it there...

 

This has already been mentioned, but as one user pointed out already, TSW1’s transition to TSW2020 is nothing more then a name change, it didn’t add any updates or changes.

I should imagine TSC getting free updates still as it’s cheaper to maintain. Like I said before, with TSC they aren’t been extorted by Microsoft and Sony.

Your third point I can understand as previous versions of the game don’t receive any updates, which obviously isn’t nice for people still playing the older versions of TSW.

 

I understand, like I said before customers might only want to stick to one country.
I was hyped for the ECML, but funny how quickly that excitement fizzled out. That’s problem with A-B high speed routes, they lose their appeal after a few runs.
I know it was too many stations for DTG to handle, but the Kings Cross to Peterborough would’ve been much more interesting. With the Class 700 layered, and possible loco dlc’s such as the 387, 319 or 365. Think there’s more I can’t remember them all. Still, wasted potential.
They gave us the most boring, blandest part of the route instead.

 

I do agree Peterborough to London would have been better, I don’t think the current section is bad just not the best section.

hopefully may see the whole route in the future, it’s definitely a route what’s different for every section so hopefully those that don’t know it well don’t think it would be same if it makes another show.

 

I disagree. The section we got (albeit should have gone to York) was perfect.

 

I definitely wouldn’t say so, the scenery in particular compared to the north section of the line is just not particularly interesting, the traffic is much less compared to the south end aswell, the stations are fairly well known but definitely not as impactful as Kings Cross or Waverley to name 2, York or Newcastle would be other interesting ones aswell.

it just doesn’t win on either of the major points.

 

I don't think this is the best section of the ecml either. There isn't much to do on the route and the scenery isn't interesting.

 

I very much agree, I don’t think the scenery is done bad it’s just nothing particularly interesting in real life.

You can get up to speed for a fair while and theirs good distance for not so long distance players between stations but apart from that you could convince it’s not ECML how I know personally on the Newcastle to Edinburgh Section.

 

Oh yes I agree that the scenery isn't done horribly.

The only real significant part of this section is that this is where some steam trains achieved speed records. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't been better if the route was set during the steam era. Although steam trains haven't been great in tsw

 

I would say no more steam trains until they implement them properly personally, and I would like to see a present day full ECML.

I just don’t think steam would be a popular choice neither for such a requested line aswell. Kinda a bit like giving them what they want with a catch. The route definitely had supporters but not particularly in the steam direction from what I’ve seen.

I do think they mostly done that section in particular as the others are quite the challenge and whilst the 3 route bundle tends to offer the ambitious routes, it still struggles in not being able to go too far in that direction.

 

Maybe not perfect, but at least it's not a Thameslink stopping service like the southern end.

 

The Thameslink is just an extra in comparison, LNER stops similarly infrequently on that part of the route.

 

There are more service patterns for the Azuma on the section we have than the southern end.

The Azuma, not Thameslink, was the selling point.

 

I know their is but their is a lot more value than an extra 2-3 stops.

 

Such as what?

 

Terminus, Scenery, Class 700 layers, Class 387 layers, London Kings Cross, higher traffic volumes, additional stations etc (possibly longer I can’t recall aswell)

the current section is great and fine, it would have been requested regardless and myself supported it in general, it’s just not going to rank above the others.

 

Termini aren't needed for a good route.

There's plenty of scenery Peterborough to Doncaster.

Layers don't really matter, and we don't have the right 700 and 387.

Higher traffic volumes doesn't always mean good variety.


Why introduce a new high speed train, and build a route for it with a heavy focus on commuter. Doesn't make sense.

 

nothing is particularly defined as needed, they are more supported in general as they for one provide logical end points (the actual end)

There’s scenery on every piece of land for that to apply… it’s just of higher visual engagement in others.

They do, no layers no trains, They also make a big difference to a route, some of the top routes (Dresden, SEHS, BML) all have that factor

The 700 is just a length matter, nothing overly wrong as it’s used on the current section

The Gatwick 387 is in the game, and going by the 323 it’s easier to convert a train in TSW to a different livery (Thameslink 387) and interior than building a new one, opening up potential

It obviously means what it says - higher traffic, variety comes from what runs of course

it’s called a route with multiple options, SEHS is one example of that.

 

I'm not going down this rabbit hole again.

Can you just accept that I believe the Peterborough to Doncaster section is better than the southern end?

 

I read your first post on this topic what said exactly that… I am in no way obliged to agree or disagree

If you post other replies to myself i will respond in agreement or disagreement to them.

 

I'm not saying you should agree with me, you have every right not to.

But last time I expressed the same opinion, I was for some reason attacked for doing so.

 

it’s just a forum, it’s just words theirs no threat, it’s up to each person to how much they stay by what they said.

If someone says something and someones opinions change, well then I guess they just weren’t overly solid about them at the start

if anyone stays with their opinions that they are right, then no one could change them with just words.

 

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