PC Tsw4: What's The State Of The Scoring System ?

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  1. The Training Center Goat

    The Training Center Goat Member

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    Hi,

    I've completed a scenario (in a TSW3 route, Thundering Through in Tharandter Rampe: Dresden - Chemnitz), making sure not to miss a single point (750/750 on all stops, 500/500 on all passenger load schedule). Did this with PZB and SIFA enabled all along and took care to never overspeed. I was expecting to earn a platinum medal for this, but I only got a gold one.

    I then read a couple of threads on the matter and discovered that the system had been reworked after having been criticized for being too easy. I also didn't see the Score Breakdown pane in the Performance Breakdown screen at the end of the run.

    So what is the state of things now? Has the whole feature been disabled? What am I missing?
     
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  2. Cyklisten

    Cyklisten Well-Known Member

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    Can you even get Platinum on non-TSW4 routes? Or is gold the max level?
     
  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Only those that have it. All new tsw4 routes get it. Some older routes have it as well which need to be manually updated
     
  4. dxltagxmma

    dxltagxmma Well-Known Member

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    Well, on Maintalbahn, all services that I completed (around half of the services) got Platinum after one playthrough, despite the horrendous timeframe you have to deal with that results in you being late 95% of the time.
     
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  5. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    From what I have heard, the new scoring in TSW4 is even more broken than before. But I don't have the game, so I can't say for certain.
     
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  6. The Training Center Goat

    The Training Center Goat Member

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    That would explain it.
    Is there a way to know which routes have this feature enabled and which ones don't?
     
  7. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    All TSW4 routes have new scoring.
    All TSW3, TSW2 ,and TSW2020 routes do not.
     
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  8. The Training Center Goat

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    Hmm, contradictory information :)

    What might have given me the wrong idea is that 7 platinum medals were visible on my profile as soon as I had migrated my TSW3 profile to TSW4. All 7 were all attributed on training scenarios. So now I'm guessing that these training scenarios might be the only TSW3 items that Dovetail has ported/upgraded to TSW4 scoring full-compat.
     
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  9. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting! I wonder why DTG would do that. I can understand something like Naverkehr Dresden, since that was sold in the Deluxe edition bundle, and if you add the 5 locos from there to the 66 from ECML and the 185 from Vorarlberg (both of which were auto-completed for me when I first launched the game), it adds up to 7.
     
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    Not 100% true anymore, but a general guideline yeah.
    Midland Mainline has new Scoring for example, and is a TSW3 route. It looks like WSR might get the new scoring with its update as well.
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Oooooh! Nice to know!
     
  12. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    From my experience it’s easier not harder to get an outrageous five figure score.

    And the inconsistency between doing a 40 minute commuter or transit run for 15k points versus a 90 minute freight drag on Clinchfield or SPG for 4K points was never addressed.
     
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  13. maxipolo12

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    Sometimes I play with SIfa / PZB on and after a timetable i have N/A by the security systems....
    but i recieve the platinum medal.

    no logic at all

    another brocken "new" feature but common topic with TSW
     
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  14. LeadCatcher

    LeadCatcher Well-Known Member

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    Or a future feature that has not been fully implemented yet.
     
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    The giveaway is the summary/scoring screen after you finish. If it has the new screen with breakdown categories (speeding, safety systems, hard impact etc), then TSW4 scoring is in effect on that route. If all you get is a plain score, it's the old system.
     
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  16. goochdog#5870

    goochdog#5870 Well-Known Member

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    Its a shame this is in such disarray as it was a big selling point for me and others on TSW4
     
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  17. maxipolo12

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    Lol you bought the game because of scoring system?
    The humanity is lost guys...
     
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  18. StrikeEagle78

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    Easy fix. CTRL+6, hide the nonsense and move on.
     
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  19. AtherianKing

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    I would always say not to remove a feature what does no damage to others, the hide is the opt out for those what don’t want it, not complete removal for those that do

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    personally I was hoping originally all routes would have it, especially the part what awards 64AP instead of 30 (why 64 I don’t know, could have went a more even number like 60) as I was going to use it to fix the services what don’t allow gold due to the threshold being too high for a normal run.
     
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  20. goochdog#5870

    goochdog#5870 Well-Known Member

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    Err did I say that I bought the game because of the scoring system? NO I DID NOT. I said it was a selling point .
    Your Strawman stuff does not work with me . How dare you try to belittle me for a teeny bit of personal gain . This is not Reddit
    Humanity is not lost guys
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me, but if the scoring system is a selling point, then surely it is one of the reasons for purchasing the game.
     
  22. maxipolo12

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    Thank you
     
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    Basically Scoring 2.0 doesn't work as advertised. It's too easy to get the platinum medal. I just have the AP points turned off though because I don’t care about points or medals
     
  24. StrikeEagle78

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    Basically along with dynamic weather, suspension physics, etc. it gets tossed on the heap of "hey look what we did!" pre-release hype followed by post release "ho hum, we didn't really do that, oops". Enjoy!
     
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    To answer the question succinctly, ‘Broken. A waste of time’.
     
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  26. goochdog#5870

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    It was a selling point in that it was advertised as such . I still purchased it and am enjoying it but it was obviously not the be all and end all . Maybe I did not explain myself correctly and do not want to get into a row about it , that’s not why I come on here .It was false advertising and like so much else , I doubt it will be fixed . Im just ignoring it now and enjoying the rest of the game .
     
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  27. SteveRail

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    Also noticed a few random journeys on GWE have platinum switched on! Very strange.
     

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