Steam Gwe Hst Wipers Broken

Just played GWE, Original Release Timetable.

Service: 1C73
Weather: Custom, Rain Storm

The wipers do not clean the raindrops any more, and the windshield has a strange pattern.

Tested multiple times.

 

What are these two artefacts?

 

DTG JD dtg_jan

Could this be related to the lastest patch for the livery editor?

 

Morning Jan.
I just popped on now and tested it out with now liveries put on and the wipers do not brush the rain off. I can create a video and send it to you via discord as I am in the discord group.

 

Ofc I can.

 

Here is the link Jan!

 

No worries Jan! Very happy to have helped!

 

same here on steam, NO MODS installed,

 

Frankly, I am a bit surprised that you apparently do not have access to a PC with TSW installed in your office, despite being a DTG employee? Or have they removed gaming PCs due to Sam always playing Transport Fever?

No mods or liveries used, the bug appears 100%.

 

Same issue happened to me last night on a timetable HST ECS move on BCC. Was at night though so could barely see anything anyway.

 

What the hell happened to the wipers on GWE?!?!

 

How on earth did this bug manage to get pass QA and all of the beta testers on different platforms I don't know. I hope that this gets a fix in the coming weeks and we aren't left being unable to play GWE in the rain.

 

Me too mate! It should just be a simple fix.

 

Same for me ,cant believe they have broke it in the patch, they need to do more testing seeing we have been waiting for over a year for the HST patch. screen shot below running on pc.
Gary

 

Hello Jan,
I am finding it a bit of a joke now that the HST GWR Wiper issue hasn't been fixed even tho it was stated on 5th July Last year and you said you pass it onto the team, it should be an easy fix but yet nothing has been done so when it starts raining then I have to then either leave it or go in Third Person View which I don't like doing.
I don't like being like this but I can't enjoy Dynamic weather on HST when it starts raining/snowing.

 

If they ain't going to fix a 7 month old crash I very much doubt bugged wipers are on their list at all.

 

I need to be able to see through my screen and it was an update that was supposed to improve the game that messed this up. They really must fix it. I know they sometimes take their time getting round to fixes but this one should have been fixed as soon as the issue was noticed, by rolling back the update that caused it. Maybe everyone was so excited they could make the train a different colour that they forgot that driving it is the most important thing and seeing through the screen even when it rains or snows is one of the most important things to enable that.

 

They can't roll back because it would break all liveries created so far. The HST was technically completely different before the patch.

 

Don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't mind having to recreate a livery as long as the train is drivable in the rain.

 

Ah yes but at the time there would have only been a couple. Too late now but they still need to get on and fix it, which they should be able to do without affecting any liveries. Then in the future when they do big model updates they should test them thoroughly to make sure everything still works. But as we know, they always rush stuff through and we end up with a mess. Everyone can play “Pick your favourite bug” and this is one of mine so it prickles me every time I see it in game or it is mentioned on the forum.

 

Big shame it is really mate. But your probably right

 

Agreed with you stu! Annoys me so much it does as I prefer the GWR HST than the MML one

 

Instead of fixing the wipers, the camera position was raised by 10cm so that we can now see from a slightly higher position that the wipers are still broken. Shame on whoever thought it was funny to change the camera position even though it was known that the wipers were broken, that was one of the most ridiculous patches ever. I would laugh if it wasn't so sad, you are literally left out in the rain here.

Meanwhile, GWE continues to be sold at full price!

 

I don’t even like the change which made the update worse, to me they added a damage to something what needed fixing in the only update it had since something else needing fixing (the wiper)

It may seem strange at first but personally wouldn’t like to see old routes permanently decrease in price for such/similar reasons, 1. it would seem to suggest more it is abandoned forever, whereas now it seems unlikely but still possible for updates/changes, and 2. It would seem to suggest keeping a bad bug like that and selling it cheaper is in any way acceptable and sod the others who bought it before.

 

I’d forgotten about that update. It was doubly annoying for me because I’d just given good feedback, along with others, that the camera height in the cab car on Antelope valley is about 10 inches too high up and that was left as it is when the 10 cm movement of the HST camera height was done and the HST screen was still a mush when there is precipitation. I wasn’t laughing and there was quite a bit of swearing that day.

 

That was exactly the reason for me to get into UE4 modding and just put the cameras where I think they should be. Feels good to be independent.

 

so dtg_jan DTG JD DTG Matt any update on if/when this will get sorted?

 

While we appreciate you doing so, chasing it up isn't good enough stuff like this should never have gotten past the testers and QA team in the first place, it's been 7 months since this bug came about after the HST was updated for livery designer and we've constantly been told it's on the list to do, we're aware of this bug... So why is it taking so long to fix? Same with a multitude of other bugs and problems that DTG are fully aware of. What baffles me even more about this is the fact that the seat height was raised OVER fixing the wipers, nobody asked for the seat height to be adjusted. So who is finalizing these ridiculous decisions?

 

Don't chase but finally fix it, after all one of your patches broke it and you've left us alone with it for months.

 

Thank you Jan
Appreciate you replying back but it really shouldn't take 6+ months but thank you anyway.
Have a good one

 

Yes I can confirm this the bug is back.

I am wondering if DTG can update it's processes to ensure they can not break fixes the next time a fix is released?

I have found problems with Reading station platform too which wasn't there before.

 

Can I ask why it's not a priority? This bug has been around since the livery designer update, it wasn't broken before that update and it stops players from using the dynamic or bad weather settings if you wish to use the HST. The dev team have had multiple opportunities to fix this but instead decided to raise the seat height instead, complete and utter stupidity it really is.

 

Hello Jan.

This bug was not "reintroduced" but introduced with the July 2023 patch that made the GWE HST LD-compatible, as the model was reworked. It was never fixed, so there's no "reintroduction" of the bug. Up until then, it was a good route. Now even more got broken, lighting and station texturing at Paddington and Reading. The DLC should be withdrawn from sale imho as you've continuously ruined it without showing any effort to repair it.

I cannot rest assured after it was confirmed by your team in this post from Nov 10th, 2023. (Only after a necessary uproar in the community though.)

Sad to see your company not standing by its word, but already used to that. So my negative Steam review will stay.

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/november-roadmap-q-a-thread.75586/page-7#post-749214

Quote:

So if you're not telling the truth, then it would be best for everyone in your team to present the same "facts" to your customers, otherwise you'll get very unbelievable. Shall I trust your word or Alex'? Best to not trust anyone in a customer relationship. But you can trust me to always pay the demanded price for your DLC. Immediately. So which party broke the rules?

Or was the above quote a "forced confession" and therefore not binding?

Or is high-priority actually far down in the list, with "very high/extreme/ultra/immediate/DefCon-1-priority" above?

Tbh it's no wonder GWR doesn't want to appear in TSW no more, as it's a disgrace when a simulator doesn't simulate rain being removed from glass, and the issue remains unadressed for more than half a year now. If this were ETS2, they'd worked over night and released the patch the next day after it was reported because you owe that to your customer. You break it, you fix it. No excuses.

And you can always ask modders to help you out if you don't know how to replace the glass material / add the wiper field overlay.

 

DTG JD DTG Matt as you two are senior staff members, I would like to hear your input on how is it a good enough excuse as to why this issue still hasn't been fixed after all this time and more importantly how it was never picked up by any of your "testers" or the QA team before the patch was released?

 

Agreed, DTG Matt to save your community managers from this disgrace and contradiction, we need the Producer making a statement.

Q: What is the deal with the wiper fix? High Priority in November, nothing's been done, now out of Focus?

 

High priority for us.

Low priority for them.

 

DTG on fixing

 

[Removed - Alex: Insulting Staff] sorry but in a Game Developer Term it should be [Removed - Alex: Language] easy to sort it out and have on the next available update! Anyone with Dev knowledge can fix it! I could research it myself and do it. Absolute joke! 7 MONTHS TO FIX THE DAMN LITTLE BUG! Come on man, we are getting screwed right over as a Community. DTG Matt and DTG JD I agree with the other members on this forum as I would like to hear your input on this excuse.

 

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I'd be surprised if we got an answer guys, some of the points I couldn't have said better myself. Its funny someone mentioned ETS, I recently got a pc and started playing some and instantly felt some similarities in the game, but soon realised that the companies couldn't be much more different. One of them cares for their product, regularly updates not only Legacy content but the whole engine, work tirelessly to fix bugs, and bring so much positivity on their community streams and engagement. The other company pump out DLC in a good old 'fire n forget' method, while trying to avoid the important questions while livestreaming the newest broken content (before it's even out!) Three guesses which is which, no 2 it's that easy!

7 months for a 'high priority' according to Matt or 'low priority' according to Jan so which one is it? Obviously low as nothings been done so far, so one statements obviously a lie. 7 months! Yep I've said this before but I'll join in as well, my company would sack me for performing line this at work. Even worse in my line of work if I made mistakes like this and then left them for months on end someone would probably die! (Electrician)

 

Yes I made sure that there were no direct attacks in my reply, my frustration and statements are directed at DTG as a company in whole and not any particular staff member.

 

To be fair this is a reasonable question. Afterall the ability to be able to see when driving is quite important......isn't it?
Perhaps DTG could Focus on this issue, PulluP their socks and give us a proper fix timetable for this in the next Roadmap?