Route Geml London Liverpool Street To Colchester Town, Colchester And Southend Victoria Via Romford

Someone said they tried to message GA but weren't allowed licences,so it won't be ga era if it ever comes

 

They would do one train trust me,you know dovetails practises

 

Do you have any other rumours that may come of interest?

 

It's not a rumour

 

Will they be able to create the route if licensing was an issue? I am glad they are attempting to create another route that goes towards London f

I meant do you have any other unknown facts about possible upcoming routes and features. I am getting desperate now as the roadmap seems so far away despite being just over two weeks

 

It would be great if yoy have any additional unknown facts

 

Care to say where you found it?

 

Saw some guy quoting it on a train sim group on Facebook

 

So it is a rumour.

Unless that guy had inside knowledge somehow.

 

No when I say quote,he got the information from a dev they do say whether they have licenses for companies

 

Therefore they can't have the license,it would be better in a different era anyway

 

Even this person says they couldn't secure a license so what I was saying is not a rumour,we WONT be getting a GA era for the GEML,its on TSC anyway so not all is lost

 

This was public so I'm happy to repeat it but on the ATS Facebook group I asked Matt P about East Anglian routes and his response was "Unlikely as we don't have the licence for the operator in that area". It's not difficult to draw a conclusion that it's GA from that.
In the same chat Matt expressed his love of old AC slamdoors as he grew up with them. So if it is the GEML it's unlikely to be a modern one.

If, as was mentioned as a rumour on this forum, a 321 is being made, I would expect to see it in its NSE or Great Eastern guise if they make the GEML for it. However, 321s have also run on West Anglia, Great Northern, Northern and West Coast services too so there's no guarantee it would be for the Great Eastern.

 

Could you quote where he said this.

I would but I don't use Facebook so can't.

 

If someone has a contact who can give snippets of information, why not believe them rather than make them disclose information that might highlight who they are?

 

Because I don't believe everything I hear on social media, especially when it's being parroted by someone else.

 

You're right to be skeptical about what you read on social media but not everything on there is a lie. Tenacity is a good thing in reasonable measures but maybe DM the poster instead?

 

No point.

He's obviously not going to say anything. If he were, I'm sure he'd have said to send a DM.

 

I can confirm you are correct in this as I saw this post you are talking about and the reply Matt gave is as you rightly said above.

 

I would love the GEML or C2C. It seems like a route that would work nicely on a train simulation game.

 

C2C is one we will never see it has been requested countless times over the years in TSC and a license will not be giving for it.

 

Don't forget that backdated routes aren't subject to the same licence issues. Leeds to Manchester in TSC is based in the modern era but comes with 1980's scenarios and rolling stock. In TSW they did it in BR era thus avoiding any problems. LTS Rail or Network South East era versions of the line wouldn't need the co-operation of the current TOC if you have enough source material.

 

But why knock off a couple miles to Liverpool Street? It makes no sense thats like doing Brighton to Battersea Park to save a mile... it makes no sense please rethink what you said

 

And it is getting that source material that can be a problem especially if only operated by one toc that will not give a license what chance do you have of getting the accurate material

 

Backdating shouldn't be too much of an issue. There's plenty of reference material that is available (I presume there would be archives somewhere).

 

Thanks to the LTS basically being Network South East's AC EMU heritage railway in the early nineties, there are tonnes of photographs of our clapped-out old slam-doors along the route and many books on the subject too.

 

For the reason stated - not having to model a major terminus and 4 miles of dense and detailed suburbia. Remember, this is a suggestion thread, that’s my suggestion and I certainly don’t need to rethink anything, it has no bearing on any future content of the game. A route doesn’t have to start or end at a terminus as we have seen in ECML. Perhaps a response of ‘Liverpool Street would be good to include for XYZ reason’ would be a more constructive and gracious. Each to their own. ✌

 

Was it someone from DTG who messaged or just a random person, because ATS are making a 745 and 755 for TSC so they would've obviously needed the license for that. I think if DTG tried to obtain GA license it could happen since they can provide a good reasoning and show a good portfolio.

 

But it just doesn't make sense. I appreciate its your suggestion, but cutting the route off just outside its terminus doesn't make sense.

 

But why not? They cant keep missing bits because its dense suburbia or it has a major london terminus. First of all Liverpool street is underground so there wouldnt be much to see until you are nearing the buffers. Second of all its not like they give us an external view of the station building itself. Your point makes 0 sense. We would have barely any routes if they didnt do it because it had a main terminus on it. Glossop, Dresden - Riesa, Munich - Augsburg, Koln-Aachen, BML, BCC, BPO, SEHS and those are just routes I know. We are giving DTG our money so they should earn it not do the bare minimum.

Edit: I know at least 1 of these routes isnt made by DTG but my point still stands

 

Stratford is in the middle of London anyway, there's a lot of city between there and Shenfield. Liverpool Street not being much further wouldn't hurt.

In other words, might as well have the route start at Shenfield

 

Don’t get me wrong I am by no means against having Liverpool Street or any terminus on a route. Perhaps I over estimate the work additional work it would take in this example, I’m no expert on creating railway simulation otherwise I’d be working for DTG and not sitting on this side of the forum like almost every other member here. At the end of the day, we get the chance to buy and download whatever content the creators release. What we say on here is simply speculation, wishes and thoughts. I don’t think clogging up this thread with further discussion about LST is best use for it, understanding that my suggestion wasn’t a popular one and there’s far more to discuss with this route than the London end.

 

I agree that one stop is nothing mind blowing but it would be a major factor for this route in my personal opinion.

 

If the GEML stopped at Stratford it would be savaged by a lot of rail simmers and I would be one of them.
Middle sections of main lines do exist but there's never been one that stopped 4 miles short of the main terminus.

Nothing on the GEML terminates at Stratford, so every trip would feel incredibly unrealistic. Liverpool St to somewhere on the Great Eastern Railway is a good suggestion. Stratford to somewhere on the GEML, no. Just....no. If you're doing the main line then it needs to go to Liverpool St. If you're doing Crossrail then it needs to go into the core to at least Paddington.

 

I agree if its Lizzy line focused it should go to Liverpool street and paddington

 

The Elizabeth line would be incredible in this game. It is a revolutionary project and I think it needs to get created. However ATO is a thing on this route which may not be as popular amongst others.

 

Luckily it would only be to stratford. If they did lizzy line I would want it to go to Abbey wood tho

 

Does the 745 on tsc have ga branding?

 

Yeah

 

[QUOTE="tyler#1604, post: 786840, member: speaking of alan Thomson they have a route coming up in tsw4.

About the branding,I have no idea why dovetail couldn't secure a licence but AT can it must be some circumstances or some requirements that AT caught up with and Dovetail didnt

 

What routes does Alan Thomson simulations make that could feature in TSW4.

 

No idea but it's in the roadmap and it will be a British route

 

Thanks for your help

 

The Elizabeth line would be brilliant and would compliment the GWE. It would also make the GA easier to produce or vice versa.

 

Yh I would be and it would be nice to have a greater Anglia class 321 along with greater Anglia class 360 to

 

Hope so

 

Or national express

 

I love your idea

 

I agree that it is an incredible idea. They could make the Elizabeth line from Shenfield aswell.