Creation Sharing Bremen - Oldenburg New Timetable (2024) (released)

Today I want to let you guys know about my second current project for TSW.

A few days ago I started with a new modern timetable for Bremen - Oldenburg and just right now, I already roughly finished the RE1 services between the two cities. The only thing left on them, are some little shunting maneuvers.

As of right now, the following DLC's will layer into the timetable and therefore will be needed for the best experience:
- Maintalbahn: Aschaffenburg - Miltenberg (BR 642)
- Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg (BR 401 & BR 403)
- DB BR 101 with InterCity coaches
- Salzburg - Rosenheim (Dostos and BR 111 substitution)
- Vectron BR 193
- Linke Rheinstrecke (IC coaches)
- Niddertalbahn (BR 628)
- Ruhr-Sieg Nord + BR 363 Loco DLC

Status of the different services:
-RE 1 (Hannover-Norddeich): 100%
-RE 8/9 (Ai Bremen Hbf): 100%
-Metronom (Ai Bremen Hbf): 100%
-IC's ((Hannover-)Bremen-Emden): 100%
-IC's/ EC's (Ai Bremen Hbf): 100%
-ICE's (BR401): 100%
-ICE's (BR403): 100%
-S-Bahn (Bremen-Oldenburg): 100%
-S-Bahn (Ai Bremen Hbf): 100%
-RB services (Ai & playable): 100%
-Freight services: 100%
-Shunting services: 100%
-Railtours: 100%

I will keep you guys updated about any news on this project.
Current services counter: 1.306

Stay tuned!

 

maybe use the KWG 403 so the TOD system matches? just a tip

 

I'd also recommend the KWG 403. No need to require two different DLC for the 401 and 403 if there's one DLC that contains both of them.

 

You know what, I currently think about the same and maybe dig myself more into timetable creation in the next weeks.

All the recent projects in timetable creation are pretty amazing and I feel like this is a good time to start and maybe even ask for help with problems around the timetable creation as so many people are currently in here doing ones.

Also route building is a pretty tedious work and because of the monotone repetiton of placing assets, it makes me crazy.

Doing some timetable stuff might get fresh air into my brain.

Good luck with both of your projects, LP!

 

I'm always super impressed when people start route projects, because building a timetable is a lot of work... and when you build a route, you kind of have to make a timetable for it to make sense, but it's just a small part of the whole project!

And yeah, I'd agree that now should be a good time to get into timetable work, now that there's a good number of other people besides me doing it too

 

Oh yes, absolutely

You two are absolutely right! I completely forgot about the KWG 403. But now this one will be the used type of BR 403.

 

Loving all the timetable projects people have got going on. Just a suggestion on the way you've laid out your timetable, I recommend not placing different types of instructions below/above each other. If you need to batch change something in the future it makes it a lot harder. (I found this out the hard way )

 

Progress Update:

I just finished all the services served by ICE 1's. Most of them are just Ai services in Bremen Hbf, but there will be 4 player drivable between Bremen and Oldenburg.
See the attachment for an overview of the ICE 1 services:

But that's not all. I already created 50% of the IC services between Bremen and Oldenburg, which results, together with the RE1, in a faster connection between those two cities every hour.

Next up on the list will be to finish all IC services that are drivable and after that, every Ai train in Bremen that is an IC or uses the BR 101.

Stay tuned!

 

Progress Update:

After spending the rest of the day, finishing the rest of the IC services, I can present to you all services hauled by a BR 101:

Roughly 50% are Ai only services, either Ai traffic in Bremen or services in or out of a portal.
Next up on the list will be all BR403 services, which will replace the in reality BR411 services, till at some point it is available for TSW.
Same here with the BR 101 replacing the in reality IC2 services.

 

Hey, I assume that this timetable will include dostos, and I was wondering if you plan to use the new dostos that will release with the Rosenheim - Salzburg route when it does release. It will be compatible with TOD4 and hopefully won’t have any of the annoying bugs introduced with the kassel - wurzburg dostos (such as a bunch of PIS issues).

Thanks

 

Hi, yes, I'm planning on doing that and maybe the BR 111 will substitute for the 146 by a really little chance too!

 

Progress Update:

I just finished all ICE services that will be served by the ICE3 as a replacement for the ICE-T.
With this, all long distance (Fernverkehr) services are implemented. Even some shunting with the ICE will be possible.

But that's not all. I also started to recreate all regional services which are served by DMU's (mostly BR 648). In my modern version of the timetable, these will be served by BR 642 units.

Next up on the list is to finish the rest of it, which is only Ai in Oldenburg, and after that I will probably start with the Metronom services.
Stay tuned!

 

Progress Update:

Hi guys,
after some further work on the timetable which took more time than I hoped, I've now finished all RB services in, and between Bremen and Oldenburg.

Now some huge steps are done and the next part (Metronom) will be a little bit more chill, because it's once again Ai only. After that I will be doing the playable S-Bahn services and Ai in Bremen.
But that's not all, I also managed to pack this Mod as my first cooking/packing ever and got it to show up in the game.



Stay tuned!

 

What train are you planning to use for the S-Bahn services?

 

As of right now, probably the BRO BR425. Because at the moment there is no 440 or Flirt 3, which would be the realistic ones.

 

Alright, that would be my favorite for those services too.

 

Bring it on then by the way you might need to consider fixing the big yard Bremen Grolland for 363 365s

 

Progress Update:

After a hole week of troubleshooting of the timetable, I finally managed to get all current 366 services to a completed state!
So now I can finally begin to recreate the Metronom services and finding out, why not all the playable services are showing up in timetable mode.


While finding all problems which resulted in services not even starting, waiting for hours or even colliding with other trains, I also did some tweaks to the stopping points in the stations to make it a lot more realistic to real life comparison.

The PIS is now also working. Still not 100% right, but I'm getting there.






Next Update will come probably in about 2 weeks, because studying for the first part of my train driver exam is more important currently.

Stay tuned

 

Progress Update:

After a few weeks of silence in this thread, I can finally share some updates with you!
First of all, I can happily announce, that there are now 506 services in the timetable, of which 170 are playable. So you can see, that there will be a lot of Ai traffic just for the scenery.
Secondly, after a lot of problems, I managed to implement all the Metronom services. Although I'm still not quite happy with the way of some maneuvers in the morning and at night. Because there are some problems when trying to get them in or out of the yard east of Bremen Hbf.
Furthermore, I also implemented some more Ai and playable services of long distance trains. But see for yourself in the pictures below! And last but not least, I got the PIS working an almost all services (forgot RB58).

That's everything new as of right now. Next up on the List will be the Ai and ECS services of the RE 9 & 8 services in Bremen. After that, I will start with the S-Bahn services. That one will be a tough one...

But that's enough talking for now. Hope you like these shots I just took in Bremen:





Stay tuned

 

looks great. can't wait to play it.

 

Progress Update:

After spending yesterday working on the RE 8 & 9 services, they are now fully implemented. Even the Rush-Hour services have found their way into the timetable. This brings us to a total of 581 current services. Most of the new 75 services are just Ai in Bremen, but there are some playable services in and out of the depot in Bremen.
As I already mentioned, next up on the list will be the S-Bahn services. Not only the playable S3, S30 & S4 services between Bremen, Hude and Oldenburg, but also (who would have guessed) a bunch of Ai services in Bremen.

This next chapter will probably be one of the biggest parts. So it might get quiet in this thread for the next time. But if there is anything new, I will let you guys know about it.




Stay tuned

 

Progress Update:

Hey guys, after almost 2 weeks, I can give you a new update about the current state of the timetable.
As of now, all the S-Bahn services between Bremen, Hude and Oldenburg (RS3, RS30, RS4) have finally been fully implemented! This and a few little extra services gives us a total of 816 current services, of which 308 are playable. That's already more than the original timetable, with 'only 272'.
But that's definitely not all. Next up on the list will be the S-Bahn services through Bremen Hbf which will be mostly Ai (RS1 & RS2). With that completed, the real timetable of all passenger services will be implemented. Which will lead me to work on freight, shunting and railtour services wherever I can squeeze them in. If there is anything in particular you would like to see, feel free to leave a post or DM me.

There also is another thing, where I need your decision. It's about the RE8 & 9 services, which are mostly Ai in Bremen and some ECS moves in and out of the depot. Now to my question, at the moment in reality they are served by Dostos hauled by the BR 146, that how I also implemented it in the game. But at the end of this year, they will be replaced by the BR 442 and only the RE will be served by Dostos and the BR 146. With that information, I would like to know if you would prefer the current state with Dostos or the one in the near future with the BR 442? Just to be clear, this is only about the RE 8 & 9.
I would be glad If you would leave your answer in the poll!

That's everything for today. But of course I brought some new pictures for you, which I just took from above Bremen Hbf. Maybe you can spot 1 or 2 things I haven't talked about yet, but that's because they are still W.I.P.:

Stay tuned

 

looks amazing. I'd say keep the dosto's. if I recall the route was set a couple years back so if you want to keep that era dosto's makes sense.

 

I want the timetable as modern as I can. That's why there would be no problem in changing to the BR 442. As of the route, there hasn't been a significant change in the infrastructure of the route, so that wouldn't be a problem either. But it's good to get some feedback!

 

I really think that it should be you to decide about the Dostos, since it is your timetable and you should be happy with the end product, also those are "just" AI trains( I know they can add a lot and are very hard to work out). But if I were to decide, I would probably choose the 442, as that would mean a little bit more variety in the AI.

 

I think you should add the substitution thingy to it so the players can decide themselves

 

That would be a good idea, but that isn't possible because of the number of vehicles. The Dostos + 146 would be 6-7 vehicles and the Talent 2 would be 4 or 8 vehicles. So that's why I sadly cannot do it that way, even though I would love too.

But there is another problem with substitutions, I completely forgot to talk about. I tried to implement substitution of the BR 111 for the BR 146. But the problem is, that the 146 is now not showing up in the vehicle selection menu. I would be glad if someone could help me with that one!

 

Hello, I am new in this forum and also from Bremen.
I saw this thread and was very happy when I saw it since there will be so many new things, anyway that wasn't what I wanted to say.
So in my opinion (if it would be possible) upload two version of the timetables and just replace the dostos with the Talent. Tho for me, the dostos will and always be my favorite, especially I grew up with them. Everything is still up to you, I just wanted to say my thoughts on it. Keep up the great work!

 

I love the talent 2 so the more routes can use it the better

 

Ah ok

 

Progress Update:

It's finally done! All passenger services have been implemented. There are no more scheduled passenger trains left that are not in the game, compared to the real timetable. With that achieved, there are now 1.002 services and 317 playable in the timetable!
Just for everyone who might be interested in, here is the list of all lines that you can spot in the game:

Spoiler: Services/ lines

- RS1 (Verden - Bremen-Vegesack/ -Farge): (BR425)
- RS2 (Bremerhaven - Twistringen): (BR425)
- RS3 (Bremen - Bad Zwischenahn/ - Wilhelmshaven): (BR425)
- RS30 (Bremen - Bad Zwischenahn): (BR425)
- RS4 (Bremen - Nordenham): (BR425)
- RE1 (Hannover - Norddeich): (BR146/111 + Dostos)
- RE4 (Bremen - Hamburg): (BR146 + Metronom Dostos)
- RE8 (Hannover - Bremerhaven): (BR146/111 + Dostos) or (BR442)
- RE9 (Osnabrück - Bremerhaven): (BR146/111 + Dostos) or (BR442)
- RE18 (Wilhelmshaven - Osnabrück): (BR642 NWB)
- RB37 (Uelzen - Bremen): (BR642 Erixx)
- RB41 (Bremen - Hamburg): (BR146 + Metronom Dostos)
- RB58 (Bremen - Osnabrück): (BR642 NWB)
- IC56 (Leipzig - Norddeich): (BR101 + IC Coaches)
- ICE25 ((Oldenburg-)Bremen - München): (BR401, BR403)
- FLX20 (Hamburg - Köln): (BR193 + LFR IC Coaches)
- Several IC/ICE Ai in Bremen: (BR101 + IC Coaches, BR401, Br403)
- Special services in different months: (BR628,...)

As I already mentioned, next up will be freight and shunting services and of course I will try to implement as most as possible of them. Another thing I need to look at, is why the BR146 is not showing up in the vehicle selection screen anymore. It's driving with Ai trains, but in the frontend screen, I cannot select it. Maybe it has something to do with the Metronom Repaint, which you already can see in the pictures of the last post and also down below of this one.

That's about it for today. It's probably going to be a bit quieter over the next weeks because of freight and shunting. But if there is anything new, I will let you guys know about it. Enjoy these new pictures out of Bremen:


Stay tuned!

 

Are the repaints you use yours?

 

The Metronom is based on textures from Nickhawk and the NWB/ Erixx 642 are part of Hannah's 642 Repaint Pack

 

dont have the Maintalbahn, but still... my brains exploded from thinking about how much work it must have taken

 

Progress Update:

Hi guys, today there is nothing big to announce, but the first freight trains have found their way into the timetable (pictures down below).
Since the last update, I concentrated on finishing the Metronom repaint for the Dostos and creating a new IC variant (textures from Nickhawk) as well, which will be used on half of the IC services between Bremen and Oldenburg.
Despite that, there are now some Dostos and a BR 363 in Bremen, which will be used for some shunting operations. Although this didn't quite work just yet.
In terms of service numbers, we are now at 1.067!



Stay tuned!

 

Progress Update:

Hello guys, this week there has been some great progress on the timetable. It is now officially in the last building phase.
This means, that there are just roughly 50% of freight services and some shunting left. Everything else (RE,RB,S-Bahn,ICE, etc.) has been implemented and is fully working. The very last phase will be testing and finding the last bits of bugs, that I still haven't found to this day.

So, what is new since the last update? There is now a railtour service with the BR 103 from Bremen to Oldenburg and back implemented. This one is based on a real railtour service using a steam loco, a few years ago. Furthermore, there are now some freight trains with container wagons from Bremen Hbf to Bremen Grolland. And also a few freight trains coming from Bremen Rbf, which then go to Oldenburg.

BR 442: After looking at the votes on the poll regarding the usage of the BR 442, I found another way to implement it. Because of the Talent 2 going into service in December 2024, DB Regio is beginning to train their train drivers on this 'new' EMU in a couple of weeks. That's how I came to the idea of simulating these training drives on this route. In real life, they will not be used between Bremen and Oldenburg or even further, but this gave me a good option to find a use for it.
And because of that, there will be 8 services with the Talent 2 between Bremen and Oldenburg where you also stop at Delmenhorst and Hude, but without any passengers. The first and last service, also got some shunting in Bremen.

But there still is another announcement, I'm very happy to tell you!
Scheduled for next Tuesday '30th April' there will be a Livestream of felix_der_weise and in it, I will showcase the new timetable for the first time!(german only) There may be some other announcements, of which I will talk about in the stream. But later on you will find a post about it here in the forum. Just in case, for the ones who missed it.

That's about it for today. The total service number is now at 1.213 of which 376 are playable.
Here are some new shots I took, and I hope to see some of you on Tuesday:


Stay tuned!

 

I counted 8, including the freight train and wagons! Hope I’m right

 

Hello,
great work so far! We are currently working on Dostos with "Hocheinstieg". Just for your Info, I am assuming that neither DTG nor you own the License for Metronom. I am currently in the process of getting that kind of Licence for the Metronom Dostos and 146. Please be aware that both the Metronom Logo and the Design of the cars is protected by copyright. I saw on one screenshot that you have Metronom Design. Please also consider that the 642 in the Erixx design is not accurate and also there is no Licences for that, meaning also this design is copy right protected.
Your Progress is looking great so far, but please consider Copy Right violations!!! We are happy to have a cooperation with you, as soon as our Metronom is done and avaliable for everyone Feel free to reach out if you want to cooperate with us, or have Questions.

LG Trainspotting Norden

 

First of all a mod doesn't need a license you need to obtain one if you plan on selling it

 

No, you need a Licence as soon as you are using Materials (Metronom Logo) that arent yours, it doesnt mater if you want to sell it or not, the fact is that you offer it to other people to use and spread something, the company might not allow. A Licence allowes you to that

 

In general you are right with that, but If we we're that strict with repaints for TSW, you would need to geht roughly half of all published repaints deleted. That includes the original Metronom repaint from Nickhawk, who was so kindly to give me his textures.
So, as long as the other repaints (using original Logos) and especially original Metronom repaint don't get deleted, I will include it in my timetable.

But in case of your Hocheinstieg Dostos, I would be very happy to include them as soon as they are published.

 

Great Progress, I am really exited to see this work, especially because of the repaints you use. I think it doesn't matter when you use repaints. There are so much repaints one CC and TSC that aren't licensed. I think it only matters when you make a completely new vehicle with logo, like folezz did with Desiro HC

 

This looks amazing. hope licensing isn't an issue indeed. can't wait to play it.

 

I can't recall a single case in all the years of TSW modding, where a repaint had to be redrawn because of license issues. It was never a problem before. I don't think it will be a problem for your work either. As long as it is just freeware, you should be okay (of course i'm no lawyer, so i might be completely wrong).

 

Yes, I just wanted you to be aware of that, since you are technically re-publishing all those violations. If you are using Metronom Repaint, can you PLEASE use the new design (currently without logos)? The one you are using is kind of ugly since the logos are so small. Also that is before 2013 without the „Funktionsbeklebung“

Great Projekt

Also, I forgot to mention, the RB 37 is not by erixx anymore. A couple years already, it is by Start, aka Fake Deutsche Bahn

 

I'm not that good at creating a repaint all by myself. That's why I asked Nickhawk for the textures of his IC and Metronom. As for the modern version of Metronom, it's the same reason as already mentioned. There is simply no other repaint of Metronom, which I could use.

As for the 642 it's the same. The most realistic version I could get, is the Erixx one. But if there will be a Start version or the new Metronom at some point in the future, there is nothing stopping me to implement it.

 

DM just went out!

 

Everything looks very epic and I am very excited to finally play it.
Hopefully it will be released on the weekend, but take your time!
Greetings,

 

How about the announced livestream? I can't find it on YouTube.

 

Hey guys, the stream sadly didn't happen, but I also didn't know it till the very last minute.
Maybe I can manage to do some time-lapse to show off the timetable in Bremen or something like that. But at the moment, I'm not quite sure how I will preview it now. Either way, as soon as there is something to watch, I will let you guys know about it.

Right now I'm also doing a new simulation to see if the last big additions work. Hopefully it does, because that would mean some quite big announcements coming for you today! But just for clarification, the release will still take a little bit, but also not too long.

Stay tuned