Xbox What Route Remake S Would You Like To See

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  1. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    Being that the WSR re vamp seems to be a success. What other routes would you like to see redone and how
     
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  2. AtherianKing

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    GB - GWE
    GE - MSB
    US - Peninsula Corridor

    scenery improvements would be the biggest thing I would like to see on these, particularly long distance for at least GWE
     
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  3. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    Here are a Few i thought of since i am in US will start off with US 1 Clinchfield add modern CSX layer new CSX locos ET44AH SD70MAC reskin s for F7 SD40 black and gold grey and yellow liveries .. 2 peninsula corridor add more freight layers improve F40ph Baby bullet and cab cars..3 CN Oakville make route a bit longer add Passenger services added CN freight services it s a significant freight corridor in Canada..4 Horseshoe Curve sand patch improve locomotives scenery tweeks ..thats all for US right now i play UK EU routes but not as familiar with those routes to say just yet
     
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  4. AirbourneAlex

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    Brighton Main Line and East Coastway with a route merge. Both upgraded with TOD4 lighting, adding the missing link between Wivelsfield and Lewes, scenery added to Hove, possibly extending the route across to Ore from Eastbourne. Brighton Main Line in particular needs Thameslink services with the Class 700/1, and Coastway services could have the Class 377/3 introduced along with an upgrade to the Class 313. Could even have a Class 455/8 loco DLC for the Southern Metro services between Purley and London Victoria.

    More likely to win the lottery than having all of the above happen though.
     
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  5. OldVern

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    Assuming this would not involve any extension, got to agree GWE would be the prime candidate for a makeover, followed by West Cornwall Local to make it look more like, erm, West Cornwall.
    Germany most of the routes are fairly decently made anyway, even Rapid Transit which is a dud because of the silent train and poor PZB setup, not the route per se. Maybe RSN or MSB as mentioned, though by the sound of things (not bought it myself), Maintalbahn needed one out the box.
    North America, maybe Oakville particularly if it got the oft mooted passenger layer. But then that would really need an extension to do it justice. Clinchfield could do with better lighting but essentially it’s a 30 mile avenue of trees so not much else to be done with it.
     
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    Main Spessart Bahn
    Haupstrecke Rhein-Ruhr
    Rapid Transit
    Haupstrecke München - Augsburg
    Ruhr-Sieg Nord

    Main Spessart Bahn is in a dire need of some emergency Revamping, as the view distance has increased, the scenery issues have come out in full force. With the increased amount of trains we now have available, it has an extreme amount of layer potential.

    Haupstrecke Rhein-Ruhr could use a Timetable layer upgrade, the route itself is very busy in real life so this could bring some much needed traffic into the route.

    Rapid Transit could use some scenery and layer updates... aswell as the Leipzig City Tunnel which needs a bit of repair as the Overhead lines within the tunnel are doing very weird things...
    It wouldn't hurt to actually lay some tracks in the Leipzig Hauptbahnhof and add some static trains there to make it feel less like the station had been completely abandoned.

    Haupstrcke München Augsburg, finish the tunnel after Hackerbrücke.

    Ruhr-Sieg Nord, Requires some scenery and layer upgrades, nothing major.
     
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  7. matt#4801

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    NTP, GWE and TVL. That would give us one very happy Matt!
     
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    WCL and Arosa, both released by Rivet Games.

    I would like to see in St. Ives, the inclusion of the harbour walls. Include the Pedn’Olva hotel on the rocks on Porthminster Beach, also include the beach cafe and remove the ridiculous detached house situated in the middle of the beach. The second bridge out of the station needs reshaping to resemble the real bridge. The Carbis Bay hotel needs including, as does the West Cornwall golf course which runs along the railway together with the insertion of the Corbiere lighthouse in the bay. Carn Brea castle needs adding, St. Michael’s Mount needs improving and the trees around Penzance station should be removed and replaced by properties already there in rear life.

    Arosa needs the mountains to look like they do in Berninaline.

    I doubt that Rivet would bother to do this. Unlike Just Trains, they just don’t give attention to detail in their work generally but at least Berninalinie was a better attempt although again their attention to detail with this route wasn’t superb.
     
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  9. Fawx

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    UK: TVL and BML upgraded to ToD4, and even better if TVL is extended to Bishops Aukland, and BML extended to London Bridge.
    US: Peninsular Corridor and Sandpatch Grade for ToD4.
    Germany: Not sure, the one I did want which was Dresden Riesa already got upgraded, and I don't play enough of the other German routes to actually decide.
     
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    Sand Patch Grade, Clinchfield Railroad, Oakville Subdivision and Antelope Valley Line:

    Bringing in 50+ car freight trains.

    Boston Sprinter and New York-Trenton:

    Bringing in freight services.

    München-Augsburg:

    München and Augsburg Hbf deserve more live. For instance 2 or 3 trains at München Hbf with it's 24 tracks is much to less.

    Main Spessart Bahn:

    Bringing in the AI services from Aschaffenburg Hbf at Maintalbahn to Main Spessart Bahn too.
     
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    It would be abselutly hellfire if NTP had the TSW4 stuff and the tunnel thrash.
     
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    Personally I don’t see a need for a Boston Sprinter remake. Unless it brings in better foliage and the MBTA HSP46.

    New York - Trenton though could use an upgrade of scenery, especially between Secaucus and Newark airport where the entire New York skyline is missing. Although I would love freight I don’t see it happening because of whatever excuse Dovetail uses.
    Sand Patch doesn’t actually need a remaster other than TDO4 lighting. I think the scenery is better than most of what we get today.
    Clinchfield could use just a full rebuild.
     
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    LIRR and Harlem Line
     
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    Kassel - Wurzburg

    1. Fix the broken and missing catenary that is widespread.

    2. Update the scenery as it looked bad on release and is really dated now, with all the 2D trees and other low-poly assets.

    3. Open the restaurant on ICE1 and ICE3 trains, so I can buy a Curly Wurly and can of orange Fanta while sat at Fulda station for 10 minutes half-way through the route... Was really disappointed the first time I realized it was permanently closed.

    EDIT: Do they actually sell Curly Wurly in Germany, or is it all that Kinder Surprise rubbish?

    ANOTHER EDIT: I'll have a Milka Happy Cows if they don't sell Curly Wurly.
     
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  15. AtherianKing

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    don’t think they do but can’t confirm.
     
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  16. oliver109

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    Northern Trans Pennine, i don't think the route has had an update since 2022 at the latest, i feel the route does need a bit more colour like the recent updated routes like West Somerset.
     
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    I'd like to see:
    1. remaster of the Gret Western Express (improvement to new standards, complete electrification, modern schedule, expansion to the airport).
    2. Remastered Ruhr Sieg Nord with expansion to Siegen (improvement to new standards, new schedule)
    3. from Rivet remaster of Arosa (landscapes and improvements to new standards).
    4. Sand Patch Grade (improving vegetation and lighting).
    5. LIRR (improving scenery, schedule and environment).
    6. Brighton Mine Line (improved to new standards, added line to London Bridge and new timetable from 700)
     
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  18. a.paice

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    NTP and TVL

    They aren't far off being perfect, they just need a bit of a refresh and the signalling on NTP needs overhauling.


    Arosa Line up to Bernina Line standards too please :)
     
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  19. elarthur

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    GWE is my number one choice but desperately in need of having the London and Thames Valley passenger and freight branches added to improve variety. Some scenery tweaks would be nice as would some future locomotive dlcs that have so far never appeared.

    ECW needs to be reworked to include the Wivelsfield branch, AI BML traffic at Brighton and possibly the section to Ore for some extra playability.

    Any UK route that has branch lines omitted from the featured sections should have them added for playability, and because there is little hope of including them as standalone routes. JT proved that it can be workable with Blackpool branches when they chose to include the Burn Naze branch for extra freight services. Examples include the Falmouth branch on WCL and the Boulby Mine branch on TVL.
     
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  20. locobilly

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    GWE, GWE and GWE. The HST needs more leg room to stretch properly, neither GWE or MML is long enough for it, pop out to answer the doorbell and you've hit the buffers and run out of track.
     
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  21. oliver109

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    Maybe have Reading to Bath? That would be epic
     
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    Reading to Bath makes zero sense whatsoever.
     
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    Bristol more ideal I would say but might still be too long for the developers.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    A remake for GWE would be better extended to Didcot including the Oxford branch.
     
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    Problem with that is that you would only be able to hit 125mph for about 10 seconds given the shortness of the section.
     
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    I meant from Paddington to Didcot.

    Should give the HST a good run, the Oxford branch for playability reasons.
     
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    Probably worth saying that any remaster in the style of WSR will most definitely not have new stations/track/extensions.
     
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    LIRR, anything else is gravy
     
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    Perhaps though Didcot is barely beyond Reading when you are on a fast train I think a better option would be all the Thames branches like Windsor, Greenford, Marlow and Henley, it would be slow but it would provide pleasant views and some iconic stations.
     
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  30. elarthur

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    A shame in regards to GWE as this route was always lacking without the London and Thames Valley passenger and freight branches. This is one route that should be rebuilt in its entirety as the current rendition is sorely lacking. It was feasible for SEHS so why not for the far more deserving GWE?
    Still, having been told no so many times now, I have resigned myself to the fact that we will never get a better version.
     
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    It certainly would be.
     
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    Do not forget the Colnbrook and Brentford freight branches which would add a few more services for variety. Otherwise I agree 100%.
     
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    In terms of variety it's the better option.
     
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    As has been said in another thread, GWR license is no longer held by DTG. So they can't add any more stations.
     
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    At least it doesn't rule out GWE being updated to TSW4 standard, as long as everything to do with the route itself stays the same.
     
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    Couldn't they do a BR great western with Valentas? That would be a big seller.
     
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  37. DTG Liam

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    You can extend a route by removing the portals and building track from there. But that would requires teams to build new art, lay track, signals etc. You would then have to go through every scenario and timetable and reroute trains that went through those portals.
    So while possible to extend it would be a massive undertaking and not something to happen if it was remastered WSR style.
     
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    GWR is on my wish list, since TSW2.
    Complete overhaul on the scenery and assets, an extension of some kind. To Swindon possibly. They could also do a couple of branch of points on the main line to Henley on Thames and Basingstoke for example, to give it more variety. Instance of an A to B route. That’s why I enjoy routes like Dresden a lot since they offer this experience.
    Added locos: Class 802 and the 158.
     

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    The 802 (if correct for GWE) requires a full OHLE system that is currently only partially complete as it was in 2015. The 158 however, does not work on this route and are only found further west.
     
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    I too would love GWE to be extended to include the branch lines especially Windsor, Marlow and Henley and hope DTG can get a license to extend as many would love it.
     
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    Haupstrecke Rhein-Ruhr with an extension to Düsseldorf and Dortmund.
     
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    Tees Valley would be my choice, with lots of AI trains going through Darlington, making it a bit like Preston on the Blackpool route. A more intensive timetable making use of the sidings that we aren't allowed to access and Pacers turning up on passenger services.
     
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    If those HSTs were supplemented with class 50s, then definitely yes.
    Alternatively, they could finally fully realise their Diesel Legends idea with an early 70s pre-TOPS GWML replete with hydraulics (22, 35, 42/3, 52).
     
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    I would like to see Sand Patch Grade redone and extended to Connellsville.
     
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    100% this, I don't understand why the route did not continue to Dortmund since it is so close-by! :(
     
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    A million yes's.
     
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    One route gets a few cosmetic changes and a timetable using existing stock and suddenly we are doubling the lengths of routes, electrifying them, adding many new locos and all kinds of pie in the sky ideas.
     
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    GWML extended extended to Swindon what you used to have a great Western Railway shop and remastered
    Main Spessart Bahn remastered and merge with Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg using Nantenbacherkurve. That is actually the big bridge past Lohr Station.
    HRR to the Netherlands
     
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    Thinking in terms of what the WSR revamp really included (improved scenery and lighting, new timetable using existing rolling stock) I would like to see this done to Peninsula Corridor, whose scenery is underwhelming and whose lighting is simply bad; there should be room for more UP freight using the SD40-2 and a wider selection of freight cars (SD70 and AC4400 would add "variety", but I don't believe UP runs those north of San Jose IRL).
     
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    The Issue with Peninsula Corridor is that the actual base geometry of the hills/mountains needs to be redone, as it's some of the worst in TSW. Pretty sure the entire route would need to be remade for that. Wish they would do it though, I love using the MP36.
     

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