Who Thinks Tsw 5 Is Coming This Year?

Gen 9 is already getting games that are not coming to gen 8. Flight Simulator, Starfield, Forza are 3 off the top of my head.

The next MLB the show is rumoured to be Gen 9 and Switch only.

But I only see DTG ditching when they move to Unreal 5. Which is still probaly a few years off still. Thats when I think they should release a TSW5 and not before.

 

After the backlash for tsw4 I reckon they don’t dare make another game this summer

 

Let's be honest, given DTGs track record (pun intended) of complete radio silence typically before a big announcement that they know won't be we'll received, I'd say 100% TSW5 is coming this year.

And I won't be buying it.

Not because I don't love the idea or because I don't want to support the genre, but because I strongly dislike DTGs approach. At best, its extremely underhand.

Like many, I purchased TSW2, and waited for bug fixes. I purchased TSW3 because I loved steam, and hoped that playing on a new console (PS4 / PS5) + a newer version I'd get those fixes. I then purchased TSW4, as it was packaged with yet another steam locomotive, lots of new features and promised fixes for the previous versions.

6-8 months later, we still do not have all the new features, we still do not have any of the fixes, and the only worthy note as others have said is the WSR update done by an employee off his own back, and a cracking job he has done as well.

Let's be straight, we know what's going to happen. TSW5 will be released in fall as nothing more than a paid update containing the features and fixes (but not all of them) that we ha e already paid for, and been promised two versions ago.

I'm sorry to sound argumentative towards a game that actually like most of us does hold a dear spot, but just remember we are angry towards DTG and their practices, not the game

 

There was backlash when they released TSW2 and TSW3 as well.....I don't see that being a factor for no TSW5

 

Tsw2 not really, tsw3 a little bit, but both of those games were justifiable. Tsw4 wasn’t

 

TSW3 didn't really add much.

It's features could have easily been combined with those that came with TSW4.

 

It added being blinded when exiting tunnels what do you mean you don't like/want that feature!

 

I don't want to be blind!

 

The backlash was rather only due to slow porting of TSW1/2020 DLCs into it than the unjustified release of a separate version. After this it was the best so far for the previous routes and locos being updated to the (TSW2) standard, e.g. new skies, adding PIS, adding or updating level crossings and road traffic, adding mastery rewards overlays, climbing on platforms full length, or adding Raildriver support. In current versions, unless it is decided to make a remaster or new loco DLC layering there, the old DLCs won't get any of new features. TSW3 & 4 could be released just fine the way as Rush Hour instead of a new game.

 

I am not sure why TSW5 would be released when TSW4 is the absolute model of perfection and completely faultless in everyway but if it is released then I will gladly buy it and I'd be happy to pay multiple times whatever amount they decide to charge me for it!

 

i think we all need to be ready on release of TSW5 in this year.

as a minor who satisfied enough with TSW4, i might buy TSW5 without major complaint
but i also think that whole the series is now on 50:50 position.

 

I'm not sure how long you have been lurking these forums for, but if you are a newcomer as your forum join date implies...100% there was backlash when TSW2 and TSW3 launched. The common argument for them both was "Why are we being charged for an update...and why couldnt feature x or feature y be included in <insert previous game name here>?"

The bottom line is a precedent is set where DTG will not care too much about backlash when announcing the next iteration. Their focus has always been to gain more new players via bundles and paywalling the new content. Start saving those pennies for TSW5

 

This will sound like complete bs but I have actually been a member for a good few years but my password and reset was all messing about, so I resorted to making a new account. Coastway trainspotter was the old account, im waffling now but you get the point. I’ve been playing tsw since 2020 and been through a few different accounts since then

 

You're not the only one who's basically done with the franchise. Tbh here Train Sim World 4 was the last straw for me. Like how can you rerelease Train Sim World 3(I'm sorry Train Sim World 2.2). The only reason I bought TSW 4 was because one it was on a discount... Two JT PBO route and the core routes of the game, and three TSW 3 support was ending.

At this point we're all just expecting Train Sim World 5 atp and Jesus I can't wait for the amount of backlash that it will cause. And the fact that Focus Entertainment thinks TSW 4 was a success.... No.... It was a serious disaster that's only getting worse by the day

 

In their eyes, it was a success.

In ours, it was a failure.

 

Well success is decided by profit. If it made profit, it was a success. If they're calling it a success, it means they made a profit. That's the only metric they are going to care about.

 

Now, I have not got the hours in the day to read through the thread and the likely arguments sensible debates tied up in it however to answer the thread question I would actually say probably, yes. About this time last year I said TSW4 rumours were a load of cobblers and I initially thought the same when I saw TSW5 in the title, but if TSW4 were a success (financially for DTG, not socially for the community), which I think is quite likely then there probably will be a TSW5.

Who knows what is being planned though.

 

Watch a road map stream when it's hosted by JD, he'll leak it at some point,

 

if it has good routes, then it is like 3 new playgrounds for the money, well, I am buying O

 

Same here, I did upgrade to TSW 3 but really only because I was interested in the 3 routes.

The TSW 4 base routes are not my cup of tea and a lot of features promised are yet to arrive so I can't see myself ever purchasing it.

Alas this does lock me out of the free WSR update despite owning it from the start and some of the new routes- particularly blackpool branches.

If TSW 5 comes out hopefully TSW 4 will drop to just a few pounds which is when I will pick it up to have access to the new features when they come.

 

see, I like all those routes, especially Vorarlberg - I love routes that have different branch options

 

Niddertalbahn made me purchase TSW3. With .......... *some* reluctance.
Blackpool Branches made me purchase TSW4. With ............ *great* reluctance.

We'll see about TSW5. Patience goes only that far.

 

I mean, if they did sth like Vienna - (just about anything), I would pre-order even TSW 8

 

Your Vienna - Wherever route would be my BR 232.

 

160 km/h, nice... does it have tap changer or regular throttle lever ?

 

And don’t disrespect anyone by talking about how long they’ve been a member of the forums. As you can see if you actually did click on my profile and have a look, I’ve been a member just on this account for nearly a year. I’m hoping this doesn’t start a big debate because then JD will see and they will have to close the thread, just making you aware

 

If TSW5 is coming this year, it better be using UE5.

 

What, all of them?
How big is the sofa?
There's what, 200 of them? The sofa would have to be 200 metres wide and 2 metres high! It would fill reception!
Unless they've got more than one sofa. If you had say three sofas you couldn't place them without being able to see behind at least one of them.

 

nah, I dont want to fry my computer yet lol

 

Add to that the fact that moving from 3 to 4 destroyed nearly every mod, leaving us stuck with vanilla again. A few now have been recreated for 4, but it's only a fraction of what we used to have.

 

To be fair, that's not their fault.

It's kind of expected that a new game version would break any mods.

 

As already stated (either here or elsewhere on these forums), UE5 solves nothing, it's all about how they use the engine.

 

It's a diesel, so no tap changer

 

3 didn't

 

What I meant was it is not a guarantee that mods will work. Just because they worked once doesn't mean that's always the case.

 

You can apply the same argument to TSW 4 though. TSW 4 came with relatively minor features that were mostly just updates to existing features in previous titles

Scenario Planner 2.0 which allows players to have more places to take their train and the ability to run a train back and forth. It is worth noting that the number of trains that a player can add to the scenarios has not changed since Scenario Planner was introduced in TSW 2.

Livery Designer 2.0 which allows a bit more customization when making liveries.

Scoring 2.0 which was supposed to make the way players score points more challenging but does not work as advertised.

We also have a photo mode which many games have had for over a decade.

Formation Designer and New Suspension Physics are not implemented still although they were not advertised to come at the release of tsw4.

The only reason I bought tsw4 was because I played tsw3 on gamepass so it was a good deal for but looking back, I can't see how any of the main advertised features justified a brand new game.

On a more general note, people who generally critique the game want it to be better. There may be the odd individual that may take it too far. However there are some in this thread that seem to think that the criticisms are not justified or that somehow this thread is "clickbait" and another way to vent frustrations. I guarantee that those who will inevitably complain about those complaining wouldn't have any issue if this thread was more positive.

Do I think there will be a TSW 5? Yes I do given what has happened in the past. Would I love to be wrong? Yes. At the end of the day, we want to game to be better and the people have valid complaints about DTG's business practices and there is nothing wrong with calling them out for it. Also many of the people who have said that there may be a tsw5 do not hope that there will be a tsw5

 

I'm sorry if you felt disrespected by my post, it was certainly not my intention. The point I was making is that if you were only active on these forums since Feb 2023 then you wouldnt have been around to see the TSW2/TSW3 backlash

 

All good. I must admit me saying there was little backlash to tsw2 and 3 was sort of based off the amount from tsw4

 

The backlash with TSW4, I think, is less about it being a new game, but more because it was released a year after TSW3. That's the feeling I get.

 

True, although we would’ve been better off with smth like rush hour instead of a new title

 

I think something like Rush hour would be a better idea but maybe they shouldn’t try to do so much in so little time? 3 brand new routes, a core update, UI changes and a UE4 update left them with many problems.

Maybe something like TSW to TSW2020 would be better instead? Re-package older routes but this time with a possible remaster?

 

A catch 22, I think.

Which routes could be remastered? Without upsetting someone (which would happen either way).

 

Possible upside is that if you haven't bought TSW4 then TSW5 might be more of a new game lol?

Although depends on JT and DTG agreeing a deal for a BPO starter pack for me at least. Plus it's a shame to miss WSR and the PFR pack (hopefully)

 

Lots, LIRR, TVL, NTP, RT. Based on another thread Peninsula corridor is a route I’m sure a lot of people would appreciate having a remaster, even GWE since we know it’s unlikely to get anything like DLC, it wouldn’t hurt to give it a touch up.

 

Think you need to learn sarcasm.... We should only be paying for substantial increments in the UE engine implementation now. They need to fix the bugs and make things work properly. Stop pumping out half baked add ons and broken DLC. Fix core elements of the fundamental reason they created this, and that is to play trains.

And also that 90% of the bugs were still present, and they can't seem to fix them.

I'd like to see GWE modernised if I'm honest, also with upgraded signalling etc. Greenford, Colnbrook and Brentford extensions as well.

 

I think you might want to understand not everyone has the capability of understanding sarcasm.

I stand by what I said, because it's not that far from truth.

 

Out of those, I think GWE would be best given its age, even if we can't add anything else to it.

 

There is 0 chance of it being modern, or extended. They no longer have the GWR license, which includes the Modern trains that would run on it, and any extra stations.
Their only options are:
1. Remaster the existing route (no extensions or new GWR locos).
2. Make it in the British Rail Era, then licensing is no longer an issue and they can make it as long as they want.

 

Add Berninaline into that. Blackpool Branches and Berninaline might be the only routes keeping TSW 4 afloat atp

 

I also like Vorarlberg a lot... shame it doesnt have RailJet services, as they surely pass this area (I believe they have a couple stops between Bludenz and Bregenz):


but I guess if they keep putting out Austrian content, RailJet is just a matter of time, as it's THE flagship of OBB (along with NightJet and kind of also ComfortJet which is ČD and OBB thing in beautiful white-blue livery)

I also like the other two routes - Azuma is an awesome train, especially with the variant that has more stops, it is actually satisfying, and I love tilting trains in TSW

as for Antelope, neat route, cool train, I just wish that the signalling was a bit more strict, like, actually forcing you to really drop the speed a bit when it shows yellow - it doesnt really enforce those things... and that thing with horn sequencing, nothing really forces you to do that either, even if IRL it is mandatory I believe? but other than that nice relaxing thing

I am pretty much waiting for Rosenheim Salzburg and Goblin line, those hopefully turn out fine and then on towards a new Austrian route, pls just not sth narrow gauge, sth that gives us CityJet Desiro ML and possibly RailJet