Just watched the British Aces' summary on tonight's DTG broadcast and they didn't mention that on the iroadmap chart at 4-6 months is an unnamed (maybe that's why) UK loco to come. Any guesses? I'd love a Class 91 or a Grand Central Adelente for the ECML. It's solely a loco and not a route so will have to fit onto a route we already have. It's nothing to do with the Class 104 for Peak Forest either.
I would say we won't know for sure yet. I think a 180 is unlikely as currently they don't make any stops further south than Donny. A 91 would be a good shout, but in reality there are various locos or units it could be.
Although that is a dull section of track it does feel incredibly weird ending at Peterborough. Seeing as it is a new loco I feel this won't be what's happening.
Such a tease that you go over Kings X coming out of St Pancras, has a basic model you can visit in photo mode. You know it could be a Scotrail Class 68 & a rake of Mk2F for Fife Circle. They were taken off the line in 2020 and we don't yet know when this specific route is set. It's not my fav but it's another modern UK loco so I'll take it!
I recall Matt during the PF release stream about a Jinty being worked on iirc. Note I haven't watched the stream since and don't know if the Jinty will ever be finished because of the current steam policy.
I’m going to guess the class 730 for BCC. These could increase AI services at New Street as well as being used for BCC services, replacing the 323s which I think is happening in spring this year. I’d love a class 91, too but think it deserves a route of its own.
I have a feeling its a Class 91. Only because of how often it has been suggested since the ECML came to TSW.
Maybe a Meridian? tbh we do also need a high speed diesel that isn't an HST and would be a good addition to the game especially as it can also be played on ECML.
The UK Loco is first party so it won't be a meridian, they tend to only make add ons for first party routes. Also Hi Matt!
Highly desirable only means two things: either we're getting a new UK freight loco (finally, after 7 years), or we're getting the Class 91 (highly requested since the ECML came to TSW). Which one will it be, is anyone's guess.
I feel that with the upcoming goblin line and also BCC, an opportunity was missed to bring the 172 to the table so I'd like to think it would be that but I don't know, on a practical level we need an alternative to the 66 I think and also a modern diesel.
Outsider this one, but perhaps a Class 380? Matt did mention a "ScotRail collection" would be on the table soon with multiple DLCs - and the 380 is well-requested..
That's got to mean a Desiro IMO, which gives us three realistic options: - 707 for SEHS (unlikely - not different enough from 700 to justify a whole new release, SEHS timeframe isn't quite there, Matt previously said they were done with SEHS) - 350 for some sort of extension to Cross-City - I think the amount of effort required would be quite high as all other branches are quite significant in length, enough to be a new route - 380 for Cathcart Circle extension/remaster - I find this the most convincing. Firstly remasters seem to be the thing at the moment, given DRA, WSR and the forthcoming LIRR 2. There are several short extensions which would make sense (Paisley Canal Line, possibly a mixed era extension to Barrhead including the new electrification), plus it's old enough to warrant a remaster (still running ToD2/3). A new TT would be very beneficial and could make AI use of the forthcoming 170 and 158 too, as well as the 801. Will come back post announcement to see how I did...
I reckon the Class 68 seeing as they have the DRS licence required for it. It's on lease to all other operators. Or something out of left field would be a Class 90
444s and 450s are third rail and operate out of W'loo. I can't think of many routes that come to mind to run them on except as A.I on Clapham Junction. Unless we get the PDL London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour Via Guildford!!!! Which could come with 455s already in it, driving the commuter services from W'loo to Woking and Guildford. And the mix of 444s and 450s operating all the fast servies to Portsmouth Harbour, Guildford, and others such as Basingstoke but you only drive as far as A.I. It would also be easy the 159 SWT/SWR used, as we already have the 158s in game!! But I can only dream for now... A 350 or 380 seems reasonable. A 222, 91 or 60 would be nice.
As it’s a pure loco release without route, and an extension to a current route seems unlikely, I think the most likely candidates would be a second UK (finally!) freight loco, a class 91 or a class 68. That is after taking into account the current routes it could land on. Would they really do another ScotRail loco in the 68 so close after announcing the Fife Circle? If they do then they risk turning this game into ScotRail World 4 haha, my guess is the one of the first two are most likely. But what do I know?
If we're going the "Desiro" path, I agree that a 380 is possible for Cathcart, that would also make 5 Scotrail trains in the game which is pretty huge. The only other thing I can think of is a 700/1 for BML if they've finally sorted out the memory issues on the route but I like the 380 idea more.
We don't really have any Scottish route that the 380 can stretch it's legs on though unless they have occasionally operated services to Edinburgh from Falkirk etc.
A Cathcart extension would make it not Cathcart. And the Paisley Canal Line would be utterly awful. 380s service the Cathcart Circle line. Fairly regularly at that, in modern times.
I don't think it would be a Class 380, partly because Cathcart Circle is too old (they generally don't make loco DLCs for routes over a year since release) and because Edinburgh to Glasgow is 3rd party (I can't see DTG making a DLC for a Rivet route). Personally the Class 380 would be best included with its own route, such as the Ayrshire Coast or Inverclyde line.
I feel like after Fife Circle we'll have enough Scotrail traction in the game for now. Would much rather the class 730, Class 91, any kind of modern freight loco, the Meridian for MML.
Something different other than yet another EMU - a Desiro is frankly undesirable... A locomotive such as a Class 91 or delve into freight with a 56 or 90. WCL and GWE would suit a 50 too. especially a remastered GWE in NSE days.
I'd forgotten about that, it was a DTG dev passion product as well I think I recall? So like someone doing it in their spare time? But then as you say if they were working on it and then steam ended up like this then who knows if it got abandoned.
Do they do or ever do Queen Street to Edinburgh? because that would be a good run for a 380, running a 380 on the Cathcart circle you wouldn't even get anywhere near top speed.
Not on the route depicted in Edinburgh-Glasgow, no. The best route for the 380 would quite comfortably be the Inverclyde or Ayrshire Coast Lines, as AirbourneAlex says.
Does the timetable on ECML have empty space for a Class 91 layer? As far as I can tell, all services that would use the Class 91 in real life are covered by the Class 801 in-game. If so then I suspect any such add-on would require a separate duplicated timetable - which DTG have done before but tend to avoid nowadays. Also to note ECML already has a loco DLC in the form of the Flying Scotsman add-on. Again DTG in most cases tend to do only one loco DLC for a route nowadays. A new freight loco on the other hand could layer into and add additional services to almost every modern UK route.
Too early to say what the new loco is. Though Matt's point about it being desirable does stir curiosity! Class 91 in that LNER Intercity livery would be great, they look lovely in that. Though another railtour loco in the form of a BR Two-Tone Green Deltic would also go down nicely!
That's a real shame because it's such a cool mod, gives the 700 FLU as well and it's fun fitting that in at the stations! It's also great to see the 3 liveries on the same line of Thameslink, Southern and Gatwick X, even see the odd 313.
Very much so! Truly a classic and I love going to Kings X and filming them, saw 2 side by side last summer and one had the Remembrance livery for the fallen, quite moving, I have a photo somewhere.
