Summer Speculation, It’s That Time Again

It’s only mid February but before we know it it’ll be summer and therefore another tsw summer release, what is everyone anticipating? I’m saying tsw5 with west coast mainline, Long Island railroad and Munich to Augsburg remastered

 

Whatever they to do, pleas figure out a way to NOT have us download our ENTIRE CONTENT yet again

 

new ICE

 

TSW 5
WCML
Core trains with the new suspension
Class 91 (if it’s not the highly anticipated train come soon)
Formation designer fully working
More refinements to free roam mode, livery & scenario designer (possibly 3.0)

 

New route from TSG, last time it was that quiet, they were working on Niddertalbahn. And well, while MAG seems to be overcrowded and can't handle another train without optimisation, why not building a "home route" for the 420, like, let's say Pasing to Holzkirchen or something like that...

 

Don't think that would be a summer release so tsg can at least get some money instead of a summer release where they get much less since it's sold cheaper

 

For the core, I guess a few additional character models selectable when creating a new profile and also to conditionally spawn as NPCs (to prepare the core for release of the Japanese route). No other speculations from me.

 

I hope it isn't TSW5, that would just be taking the mick but it wouldn't surprise me if they did and used improved existing features to justify it. I hope TSW can become like TSC sooner in the sense that it won't be subject to an annual game upgrade in order to get new DLC. Perhaps just a summer core update would be better received in order to address existing issues and bring other routes up to TSW4 standard.

 

The only speculation I am adding is that whatever it may be, it'll release in the autumn.

 

I'm just hoping that we get some extra emojis / smilies for these forums.
Anything extra will be a bonus

 

After answering the survey they put out I’m partially convinced they might try a subscription service. They’re at least contemplating it.

 

One thing that strikes me about the last release, the much discussed TSW4, is how well the routes were built with some of the best scenery ever seen in TSW. Whatever form the summer release comes in, and hopefully I won’t have to spend a whole day downloading all my content into a new TSW5, I’m expecting two or three routes with the same level of care and detail in the scenery.

What routes would they be? I would say a WCML may be the obvious choice after last summer’s ECML but for US and whatever mainland Europe route comes I haven’t a clue.

As for features I couldn’t possibly guess as the number of potential things they could add, whether it be TSW5 or a TSW4 update, is quite large. Manual firing for steam? Only kidding, that’s not happening. The only features I would actually want would be quality of life improvements such as adjustable camera position in the cab so I can take away the tall pile of cushions DTG make me sit on when I’m in a US locomotive or cab car. If that does come I would want it available in all trains not just new ones that come after the feature is introduced.

I would also want the choice to exit the current session back into the same route’s menu instead of having to go back to the main menu and navigate through “To the trains” and “Choose a route” and choosing the route again. The option to return to the timetable is present at the end of a timetable service but not at any other time, such as exiting free roam or quitting from a paused game. That’s the kind of improvement I would hope would come.

 

I forgot about that. I hope it was put on there in order to rule it out. Wouldn't want it turning into a TSW premium thing.

 

TSW 5 this year would break me ngl, getting really sick of paying every year for the same game with the old game being abandoned and same bugs being present. Just do another Rush Hour-style pack DTG, another game this year would be a piss-take.

 

Still haven't recovered from the first rush hour

 

Oh my GOD, yes give us an ICE-T, ICE 4 or a Velaro D already! No disrespect to the BR 403... but it's getting old now

 

Another potential DLC for Dresden - Riesa, I believe it’s supposed to be the ICE -T on that route rather than a 406

 

Not sure, what you mean...Matt once stated in a stream, that every year a new iteration wasn´t the right appoach for TSC, and it won't be for TSW. I hope, that they still got this in mind and won't release the next iteration of TSW this year. So all in all, what do you mean?

 

Emoji’s has had its day. Now is the time to GIF, come on man, gif with me

 

Given the sentiment of the community, I think TSW 5 would be a BIG mistake unless it brings significant improvements such as better performance, better graphics, features working as advertised, better sound mixing etc. Just another big number release for the sake of it (and requiring players to buy it in order to continue buying new DLC) is taking the piss somewhat.

A subscription model of any kind, unless strictly limited to features I have no interest in, will kill the game for me. That’s an absolute no no no.

 

I really am not exited for the summer content this year, especially the U.S stuff. Since they don’t have a date for the unannounced U.S route coming, I have a feeling they’ll hold it off for TSW5 this fall. If anything I guess im exited for the U.S loco DLCs on the roadmap, but that’s about it. If they don’t do a TSW5 but move to a subscription service, that would be a major turn away for me.

 

Totally agree with you theh need to stop releasing new versions every year and just focus on one and work on that and rather than release new versions send out patches for the current one.

 

I hope they just change their business model a bit so that the core updates come as a free thing every year. Even if they release it at the same time as a 3 route bundle that costs as much as the full game, this yearly release thing is getting confusing for players IMO. Isn't that the way TSC works? I never used it so I am not 100% sure but at the end of the day the DLC releases must be the big revenue generators anyway.

 

I feel that focus will put a stop to this as let’s not forget they now have a say

 

As much as I don’t want it to be another iteration, “insert topics of abandonment/bugs/money/it’s the same/slight changes etc here”, however i think the money talks a lot louder and I can’t see them passing the opportunity entirely …

do I think TSW 5 will be this year, it’s hard to tell, I strongly believe with reason it’s either a rush hour style pack or TSW5, so it’s hard to say which they will judge as the best for the cash.

 

nah I'm telling ya the ICE 3 is just not fun, the sounds are childish and they have no real variety. and GOD DAMN DTG why did you think it'd be a great idea adding correct fonts to "Bordrestaurant" on the ICE 1 AND NOT ON THE ICE 3

 

The fact they have gone very quiet about pretty much everything to me is a bit ominous.

If it is TSW5, despite all the squawking most of us will probably end up buying if the route bundle is good, and Sainsbury’s haven’t run out of Steam Wallet gift cards by then.

Of course it could be something more radical, really hope not a subscription or pay to play service. That would be a red line for me and the point at which I make to with what I’ve got.

Personally and if they listened to customer concerns after two consecutive yearly new versions, they will skip that this year but go for some sort of Rush Hour style season pass which will give four or five quality routes across the summer and early autumn, with complementary core updates.

For the UK, total fantasy here but I do have a feeling it will be something WCML, era to be determined along with geographical limits. I have money on Milton Keynes or Rugby to Crewe which would be about the same distance as Peterborough to Doncaster.

For the US, a good chance I think it will be LIRR2, original route made over and extended by 30 or 40 miles as with SEHS for TSW3. The clues are there with Matt P. bemoaning the lack of access the big freight railroads now seem prepared to grant. Of course I would love something like the Moffat Road out of Denver which could introduce Amtrak long distance running, but I doubt it..

Mainland Europe. Think we might see another Austrian or cross border into Germany route. Innsbruck to somewhere must be on the agenda, whether up to Garmisch and Munich or over the Arlberg Pass proper.

 

Another TSW 5 discussion? Didn't you guys have enough of that discussion during the Dovetail Direct?

 

You don’t have to read it or post in it if you don’t want to, or act as yet another self appointed forum moderator/DTG spokesman…

 

It’s an ongoing concern. When it does release, some will choose to buy and enjoy a year of playing including new routes that come out afterwards and others will ‘enjoy’ complaining in a never ending “Right this time enough really is enough, really, I mean it this time” thread. It’s fascinating to watch.

 

DTG is secretly already building up an optional subscription model by making us pay ca. 50 bucks every year if we want to continue playing TSW with the newest updates, DLCs and support

 

Hope they can at least give US some new locos and freight cars I hope too its some freight locos ET44ah maybe a SD70 m would like some older loco s EMD GE even Alcos on top as for routes going to say it again and again DTG needs to do more FREIGHT ROUTES they refuse to get the facts straight that FREIGHT TRAINS are the most common service here while its nice to play passenger trains too in TSW freight rules the roost here in USA although DTG and 3rd partys do need to fix and improve the US freight bugs etc ..licensing seems to be a sticking point for new stuff but they got plenty they can work with already they got all major US freight licence s BNSF UP CN CSX NS give us new freight routes theres more than plenty of milage of track they miss huge opportunity ...also why not look into doing a regional or shortline operation that has a fair variety of operations a few long freights locals unit train s do reasearch on that study it get people that knowlegable on US freight operatios to help do great things it shoulnt be that harto do

 

Let's not spread unconfirmed speculations as facts, shall we?

 

They had better watch themselves with subscription models. If I lose the option to actually purchase, and forever own, DLC I am afraid they will lose me as a customer.

 

Also seeing on here even the UK plaers are wanting more FREIGHT in UK routes DTGand 3rd party developers if your reading these comment all over these fourums FREIGHT is coming to demand need MORE FREIGHT put the passenger trains in the siding and give freight more priority

 

I agree with both of these and also would like to add that we still need an FOV slider. I'm still not entirely sure why this isn't a setting already, it's been requested for ages.

 

I hope it's TSW5,because that would be amazing, but assuming that DTG haven't gone completely mad, I reckon it will be a low(er) priced pack that provides a mid term refresh to make TSW 4.5

 

Nobody forced you to click and read this thread.

 

TSW5 is welcomed by me. I’m a trophy hunter.
I have 150/239 available. If a new entry arrives this summer I can do it all over again

 

They are most likely going to give players an option. There are many subscription games that do that

 

If they can even access them in the first place which freight operators don't want to allow or the loco doesn't exist. Which means you have trains sounding incorrect and other things so players wouldn't like it either. If dtg don't make freight, players complain. So it's a lose lose

 

I hope that DTG give us a brand-new "Kick-Ass" profanity filter......................................Oh !!!

 

There is actually relevance and timing to this. Every year this time of the month the summer release is reborn as a discussion, and inevitably dtg go quiet

 

But they just did the Dovetail Direct + Roadmap + Streams in this week - in what way is that "going quiet"?

 

or could be that dtg are just busy. They are releasing a bunch of content from now until 6+ months

 

I imagine they mean that DTG don’t comment on/much on the speculation of TSW5 etc despite it coming up quite a bit, I think people take it as a sign of it being a potential but are maybe reading to much into that as it’s normal for companies not to respond to speculation like this.

edit: grammar

 

you bet...what a pain

 

They had better.

 

My predictions:

1. TSW5 will be announced 1 or 2 weeks before the Steam Summer Sale, so that new players get hyped and rush to buy copies of TSW2, TSW3 and TSW4 and a load of DLCs at a 60% discount.

2. We will find out that an old route will be upgraded to ToD4 .... Just in time for it to be outdated again as TSW5 is just around the corner.

3. TSW5 will feature a WCML route and/or a new UK locomotive, so that people fall over themselves to pre-order the £90 special edition.

4. People who rushed out to pre-order the £90 TSW5 Special edition will flood the forums with angry day 1 bug threads, and many will get a 2 week forum ban for getting a little "too angry".

5. Somebody will ask for the preservation crew to return during a DTG live stream, and be completely ignored... Then get a live chat ban from the DTG mods for repeatedly spamming the same question another 300 times.

That's all I got for now, but sure I'm missing some things....

 

Ooh! An all- out tit- for- tat between the detractors and apologists. Love it!

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, things are not looking too promising for US players in 2024. Except for another rather underwhelming Metrolink line left over from last years planning,, we don't know even the barest outline of any North American routes or locos that might be released in the next 6 months. All we have are rumors and one or two faint leaks about a possible LIRR reboot.

A new and more imaginative freight route would be nice and before people start wailing about Class 1 licensing, it doesn't have to be a major railroad. It could be a short line with pick- up industrial spurs, for instance.

Whatever, DTG needs to throw some bones our way, and with meat on them. I personally will need some real quality to persuade me to invest more $40 shots into this seemingly moribund game.